GL2 Title Mix Video Tutorial

Noka Aldoroty · February 24th, 2003, 09:27 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Talley : Tustin,
Nice tutorial work.

When I follow your steps and go to Title Mix in the cam, it shows one that I created via the cam and it says there is another one but the image shows as an "X" and you can't select it.

I made sure the image size was 640x480 and am puzzled what I missed.

Any thoughts?
Thanks for your efforts. -->>>

I am having the same problem Rob mentions above, with the unselectable
"X"-file. Is there a solution to this? The truth is out there...

Tustin Larson · February 28th, 2003, 03:36 PM

We figured it out... It took a few days.. But N. Aldoroty got the Title Mix working on his cam. Here is our email conversation.......

Tustin,

Good news. A friend and I figured out the glitch. We didn't have our
photoshop image saved in RGB color mode. That was the kicker. Once we
changed it to RGB, it worked just great. You sample image was a big
help though, thank you.

Thanks for all your time and help. Success at last...

:)
Noka

On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:16 PM, Tustin Larson wrote:

> Thank you for the detailed description. I am sending a .jpg file for
> you to test. This file has red text with a drop shadow and stroke
> (both RGB12). I have already named it accordingly. All you have to
> do is drop it in the title folder, and activate the title mix. If for
> some reason this does not work... there may be something wrong with
> the camera... or the SD/MMC card. Please let me know the result of
> your test with this file.
>
> Thanks,
> Tustin Larson
>
>
>
> Tustin~
>
> Thanks for your offer to help. Here is what I did, which resulted in
> the "X"- file.
>
> NOTE: I am using a Macintosh computer. Not sure if that has anything
> to
>
> do with it, but thought I'd mention it.
>
> Okay, so...
>
> - I created my Matte image in Photoshop and saved it as JPG file.
> - I then connected my camera to my computer, then dragged the file
> into the "Title" folder on the camera.
> - Next I renamed the file as USR00004.jpg Under this name, the file
> did
>
> not show up at all, so I deleted the "jpg" extension and tried again.
> No luck again, so I created a title inside the camera to see what the
> file name looked like and noticed it had a "TTL" extension on it. So
> I named my file "USR00004.TTL".
>
> With this file name, my camera recognized for the first time that the
> file existed, however the thumbnail image did not preview the image.
> Instead, it showed a blue box, with a white "X" in the center. The
> camera also would not allow me to actually select this title file.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Noka
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 09:15 PM, Tustin Larson wrote:
>
>> I have not encountered this X. I would really like to help you.
> Could
>> you please tell me what you did exactly so I might be of some help to
>> you.
>>
>> Thanx,
>> Tustin
>>
>> >>
>>
>>
>> Hi Tustin,
>>
>> Thanks for your offer to troubleshoot the any title mix question we might have...in fact, I just posted one to the DVnet site just before I saw your email address posted. The question I have is this: (as phrased in my post)...
>>
>> <<<-- Originally posted by N Aldoroty :
>> <<<-- Originally posted by Rob Talley : Tustin,
>> Nice tutorial work.
>>
>> When I follow your steps and go to Title Mix in the cam, it shows one that I created via the cam and it says there is another one but the image shows as an "X" and you can't select it.
>>
>> I made sure the image size was 640x480 and am puzzled what I missed.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>> Thanks for your efforts. -->>>
>>
>> I am having the same problem Rob mentions above, with the unselectable "X"-file. Is there a solution to this? The truth is out there...
>> Would love your help with this if you have a few moments.
> Thanks
>> again
>> for the helpful tutorial. It'll be a very useful feature once I get it to work!
>>
>> :)
>> Noka

I hope this info is useful to those who are having an issue with this feature.

Tustin

Jonny Throop · March 3rd, 2003, 02:49 AM

I bought a GL2 a couple of days ago (woohoo) and I think I found out the problem with the mysterious "X" when the Title doens't show up in the camera. Be sure that after you save the document as a .JPG, you are then prompted to save the file at a certain quality. I choose the best quality (12). Then before you click OK, be sure to select "Standard". My photoshop files were always set to progressive scan. If you guys already figured this out, then Well done! If not then I hope this helps someone!

It is late for me right now, so if this didn't make any sense then I'm sorry =)

Tustin Larson · March 3rd, 2003, 12:25 PM

Thanks for the great tip Jonny.

Tustin Larson

Bud Kuenzli · March 3rd, 2003, 07:52 PM

If you ever were to save that into a quicktime file it would be greatly appreciated by the mac using community.

Tustin Larson · March 3rd, 2003, 07:58 PM

I am pleased to announce that I now have a Quicktime version available as well as a plain text version available for you to download/read.

I have emailed Chris with the links, so hopefully we will see links on the SOWGL2 site.

I was not able to keep the file size of the QT movie down, so I split it into 2 parts.

http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/titlemixpart1.mov 16.7mb
http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/titlemixpart2.mov 20.6mb

The text file can be downloaded here:
http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/Title Mix Function Tutorial.rtf 8.5kb

I have also moved all of the other TMF stuff into this new /tutorial folder.

I am putting together a .zip file with some template style lower thirds, and some other titling backgrounds for you. All you will have to do is transfer them to the card.

Please send me some designs if you want. The more the merry-er!!

If you have any questions please email me, tlarson@cathedralcity.gov

Keep on title-mixing,
Tustin Larson

Tustin Larson · March 10th, 2003, 11:33 AM

I was reminded last night by email that I have not uploaded the correct 16:9 matte yet. So this morning I finally did. You can find it here http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/USR00002.jpg

Thanx,
Tustin

P.S.
Chris,
Just wondering if you are interested in hosting the Title Mix QT files? The IT guys are starting to grumble again. =)

Tustin Larson · May 29th, 2003, 10:44 AM

Hello everyone,

My position with the City that I work for will be coming to a screeching halt come June 13 (due to budget cuts). I would like to thank all of you for the emails you have sent regarding the Title Mix Function. I will continue to answer questions/comments about the Tutorial, But you will have to reach me at my new address:

homevideo2dvd@hotmail.com

On a lighter note, the decision to downsize me has built quite a fire under my britches for getting my own company started. So, www.tklproductions.com will be coming soon. YaaaaY!

Thanks again everyone, and keep those emails coming!

Tustin Larson
TKL Productions

Ken Tanaka · May 29th, 2003, 11:06 AM

Sorry to hear of your troubles, Tustin. But, if it's any consolation, such incidents keep us from becoming stale and often lead to more interesting challenges.

Don't forget to change the email address in your "User CP", above.

Graham Bernard · May 29th, 2003, 11:55 AM

Ho! Been there done that! - If you're involved in the arts - guilty - this goes with the territory. Not saying you were or have been, but I've found the options to challenge myself and where I want to be sometimes - not often - far more rewarding. - Sorry matey . . . keep in touch with us . . .

Oh yeah . . "Downsize This!" a nifty book by that scrouge of the Corp.Inc. countryside, Michael Moore. Get and at leasat have a few "Oh yes sireees!!"

Grazie

Ron Severdia · March 15th, 2004, 01:23 AM

Is the Quicktime version of this available any more? Or the text file?

Thanks!

Ken Tanaka · March 15th, 2004, 01:48 AM

Tustin has been away from the forum since July, 2003 and it looks like his server is gone, too.

We still have the .WMV version here at the link posted by Chris earlier in this thread.

Marty Allen · March 19th, 2004, 05:36 PM

I recreated all 3 of the letterbox mattes but used 720x480 instead of 640x480 as the video says. The 16:9 matte match the guides EXACTLY. Worked great. So your mattes do not have to be 640 x480 in order for them to work. In fact, the ones you can download from Canon come in at 768 x 576 (which is the same ratio as 640x480).

Marty Allen · March 19th, 2004, 06:33 PM

Ok, while creating the 16:9 matte in 720 x 480 made it match perfectly, you do need to create mattes other than black bars in the 640x480 (1.333) ratio (same as canon provides). Creating a logo in 720x480 will make it appear squashed on the video while 640x480 maintains the correct aspect. I have shot tape with the 720x480 16:9 matte and it is beautiful! So... for letterbox, either way works, for logos or text, use 640x480.

Ron Severdia · March 21st, 2004, 01:09 AM

Sounds cool. . . So you can use the matte as a guide when shooting in 16:9 mode? Have you tested it? Is it accurate (frame-wise)? Can you post it somewhere for download somewhere?

Thanks!

February 24th, 2003, 09:27 PM	#31
Noka Aldoroty Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 29	X-files? <<<-- Originally posted by Rob Talley : Tustin, Nice tutorial work. When I follow your steps and go to Title Mix in the cam, it shows one that I created via the cam and it says there is another one but the image shows as an "X" and you can't select it. I made sure the image size was 640x480 and am puzzled what I missed. Any thoughts? Thanks for your efforts. -->>> I am having the same problem Rob mentions above, with the unselectable "X"-file. Is there a solution to this? The truth is out there...

March 3rd, 2003, 02:49 AM	#33
Jonny Throop New Boot Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 13	I think I found the problem I bought a GL2 a couple of days ago (woohoo) and I think I found out the problem with the mysterious "X" when the Title doens't show up in the camera. Be sure that after you save the document as a .JPG, you are then prompted to save the file at a certain quality. I choose the best quality (12). Then before you click OK, be sure to select "Standard". My photoshop files were always set to progressive scan. If you guys already figured this out, then Well done! If not then I hope this helps someone! It is late for me right now, so if this didn't make any sense then I'm sorry =)

March 3rd, 2003, 07:52 PM	#35
Bud Kuenzli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 197	.wmv file If you ever were to save that into a quicktime file it would be greatly appreciated by the mac using community.

March 3rd, 2003, 07:58 PM	#36
Tustin Larson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 86	New Versions available I am pleased to announce that I now have a Quicktime version available as well as a plain text version available for you to download/read. I have emailed Chris with the links, so hopefully we will see links on the SOWGL2 site. I was not able to keep the file size of the QT movie down, so I split it into 2 parts. http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/titlemixpart1.mov 16.7mb http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/titlemixpart2.mov 20.6mb The text file can be downloaded here: http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/Title Mix Function Tutorial.rtf 8.5kb I have also moved all of the other TMF stuff into this new /tutorial folder. I am putting together a .zip file with some template style lower thirds, and some other titling backgrounds for you. All you will have to do is transfer them to the card. Please send me some designs if you want. The more the merry-er!! If you have any questions please email me, tlarson@cathedralcity.gov Keep on title-mixing, Tustin Larson

March 10th, 2003, 11:33 AM	#37
Tustin Larson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 86	UPDATE I was reminded last night by email that I have not uploaded the correct 16:9 matte yet. So this morning I finally did. You can find it here http://www.ccpronline.com/tutorial/USR00002.jpg Thanx, Tustin P.S. Chris, Just wondering if you are interested in hosting the Title Mix QT files? The IT guys are starting to grumble again. =)

February 28th, 2003, 03:36 PM	#32
Tustin Larson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 86	We figured it out... It took a few days.. But N. Aldoroty got the Title Mix working on his cam. Here is our email conversation....... Tustin, Good news. A friend and I figured out the glitch. We didn't have our photoshop image saved in RGB color mode. That was the kicker. Once we changed it to RGB, it worked just great. You sample image was a big help though, thank you. Thanks for all your time and help. Success at last... :) Noka On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:16 PM, Tustin Larson wrote: > Thank you for the detailed description. I am sending a .jpg file for > you to test. This file has red text with a drop shadow and stroke > (both RGB12). I have already named it accordingly. All you have to > do is drop it in the title folder, and activate the title mix. If for > some reason this does not work... there may be something wrong with > the camera... or the SD/MMC card. Please let me know the result of > your test with this file. > > Thanks, > Tustin Larson > > > > Tustin~ > > Thanks for your offer to help. Here is what I did, which resulted in > the "X"- file. > > NOTE: I am using a Macintosh computer. Not sure if that has anything > to > > do with it, but thought I'd mention it. > > Okay, so... > > - I created my Matte image in Photoshop and saved it as JPG file. > - I then connected my camera to my computer, then dragged the file > into the "Title" folder on the camera. > - Next I renamed the file as USR00004.jpg Under this name, the file > did > > not show up at all, so I deleted the "jpg" extension and tried again. > No luck again, so I created a title inside the camera to see what the > file name looked like and noticed it had a "TTL" extension on it. So > I named my file "USR00004.TTL". > > With this file name, my camera recognized for the first time that the > file existed, however the thumbnail image did not preview the image. > Instead, it showed a blue box, with a white "X" in the center. The > camera also would not allow me to actually select this title file. > > Any thoughts? > > Noka > > > > > > On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 09:15 PM, Tustin Larson wrote: > >> I have not encountered this X. I would really like to help you. > Could >> you please tell me what you did exactly so I might be of some help to >> you. >> >> Thanx, >> Tustin >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Tustin, >> >> Thanks for your offer to troubleshoot the any title mix question we might have...in fact, I just posted one to the DVnet site just before I saw your email address posted. The question I have is this: (as phrased in my post)... >> >> <<<-- Originally posted by N Aldoroty : >> <<<-- Originally posted by Rob Talley : Tustin, >> Nice tutorial work. >> >> When I follow your steps and go to Title Mix in the cam, it shows one that I created via the cam and it says there is another one but the image shows as an "X" and you can't select it. >> >> I made sure the image size was 640x480 and am puzzled what I missed. >> >> Any thoughts? >> Thanks for your efforts. -->>> >> >> I am having the same problem Rob mentions above, with the unselectable "X"-file. Is there a solution to this? The truth is out there... >> Would love your help with this if you have a few moments. > Thanks >> again >> for the helpful tutorial. It'll be a very useful feature once I get it to work! >> >> :) >> Noka I hope this info is useful to those who are having an issue with this feature. Tustin

March 3rd, 2003, 12:25 PM	#34
Tustin Larson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 86	Thanks for the great tip Jonny. Tustin Larson

May 29th, 2003, 10:44 AM	#38
Tustin Larson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Springs, CA Posts: 86	INFO UPDATE Hello everyone, My position with the City that I work for will be coming to a screeching halt come June 13 (due to budget cuts). I would like to thank all of you for the emails you have sent regarding the Title Mix Function. I will continue to answer questions/comments about the Tutorial, But you will have to reach me at my new address: homevideo2dvd@hotmail.com On a lighter note, the decision to downsize me has built quite a fire under my britches for getting my own company started. So, www.tklproductions.com will be coming soon. YaaaaY! Thanks again everyone, and keep those emails coming! Tustin Larson TKL Productions

May 29th, 2003, 11:06 AM	#39
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Sorry to hear of your troubles, Tustin. But, if it's any consolation, such incidents keep us from becoming stale and often lead to more interesting challenges. Don't forget to change the email address in your "User CP", above. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

May 29th, 2003, 11:55 AM	#40
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	DOWNSIZE THIS! Ho! Been there done that! - If you're involved in the arts - guilty - this goes with the territory. Not saying you were or have been, but I've found the options to challenge myself and where I want to be sometimes - not often - far more rewarding. - Sorry matey . . . keep in touch with us . . . Oh yeah . . "Downsize This!" a nifty book by that scrouge of the Corp.Inc. countryside, Michael Moore. Get and at leasat have a few "Oh yes sireees!!" Grazie

March 15th, 2004, 01:23 AM	#41
Ron Severdia New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13	Any more? Is the Quicktime version of this available any more? Or the text file? Thanks! __________________ http://group101sf.com/ http://group101films.com/

March 15th, 2004, 01:48 AM	#42
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Tustin has been away from the forum since July, 2003 and it looks like his server is gone, too. We still have the .WMV version here at the link posted by Chris earlier in this thread. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

March 19th, 2004, 05:36 PM	#43
Marty Allen New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 11	16:9 guides do match... I recreated all 3 of the letterbox mattes but used 720x480 instead of 640x480 as the video says. The 16:9 matte match the guides EXACTLY. Worked great. So your mattes do not have to be 640 x480 in order for them to work. In fact, the ones you can download from Canon come in at 768 x 576 (which is the same ratio as 640x480).

March 19th, 2004, 06:33 PM	#44
Marty Allen New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 11	And an Update Ok, while creating the 16:9 matte in 720 x 480 made it match perfectly, you do need to create mattes other than black bars in the 640x480 (1.333) ratio (same as canon provides). Creating a logo in 720x480 will make it appear squashed on the video while 640x480 maintains the correct aspect. I have shot tape with the 720x480 16:9 matte and it is beautiful! So... for letterbox, either way works, for logos or text, use 640x480.

March 21st, 2004, 01:09 AM	#45
Ron Severdia New Boot Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13	Sounds cool Sounds cool. . . So you can use the matte as a guide when shooting in 16:9 mode? Have you tested it? Is it accurate (frame-wise)? Can you post it somewhere for download somewhere? Thanks! __________________ http://group101sf.com/ http://group101films.com/