GL / XM assorted posts, 2003

Eddie Jackson · December 16th, 2003, 02:36 AM

Just looking for a quick response to what the main differences are between these two awesome camera's. Wondering because I want to know if I should consider moving up to the XL1-S.
Thanks. It was my understanding that the only difference is the interchangeable lenses?

Graham Bernard · December 16th, 2003, 05:52 AM

Here's a few . . .

On our Forum:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=3018

. .nice table here:
http://www.dvdirect.com/TSS/charts/CanonCamcorder.htm

. .review-type things:
http://videosystems.com/ar/video_canon_gl_camcorder/

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...der_review.htm

. . any good?

For what it is worth, I'm happy with my XM2. The XL!s is still minidv. Yes has inter-lens . . has more bits 'n pieces you can buy. But, the XM2 has 2 x manual audio AND 20x zoom . . oh yes the XL1 systems are more expensive.

Grazie

Andy Gaskin · December 16th, 2003, 05:35 PM

I'm having some trouble with my GL2's auto-exposure: while in any shooting mode (except AV) the camera will not re-adjust to low-light situations. For instance, when I power on the camera in "Easy Mode" a dark room remains dark. (I tested with a second GL2 I own and upon powering up it instantly adjusts to the low light).

I can crank the E-lock up to +11, and then release it to get the proper exposure, but if I then point at a bright light (thus shrinking the iris) and then back to the dark room, it cannot re-adjust to the low light and the scene remains very dark.

Interestingly AV shooting mode handles lighting changes fine. But no other mode.

Again my other GL2 manages these situations perfectly. Any ideas? Am I missing a setting? Or headed for repair?

thanks so much,

-Andy

Jeff Donald · December 16th, 2003, 07:54 PM

Sounds like a trip to Canon service.

Graham Bernard · December 18th, 2003, 04:00 AM

Okay, please have patience with me.

I've used auto WB with DV and this isn't a problem. But I've been told that using Manual WB and then going to another situtation and filming - ie outside to inside shooting - and then going to a lower format for the final product - ie VHS tape - would end up "blowing" or over exposing the white areas. Is there a way of comabating this within Vegas in post? Or should I treat WB with specific respect, and use manual WB for each and every separate WB situation?

Grazie

Bud Kuenzli · December 18th, 2003, 11:11 AM

I think you must have a few things cockeyed here. White balance will normally have nothing to do with getting blown out highlights even if you go from one color temp to another. It may be possible that in some instances the color temperature shift might be -just- enough to bring something from legal to blown when you change your location, but it is much more likely the issue would be due to your manual shutter speed/f stop. If you are using manual controls and move to a new location you will obviously check your exposure and adjust it. Your manual color balance setting may not be correct if you dont' also adjust that, but if you have set your exposure properly, you won't get blown out highlights...you'll simply get the wrong colors. As for how it affects color or exposure going to VHS, I'll defer that to somebody else and invite an expert to correct me above if I'm wrong. :)

Joel Corral · December 26th, 2003, 12:25 AM

hi,
i have a few questions.
what other lense accessories are there for the GL2? and what are the best? why would in need any? are there any possible ways to change the lense on the gl2? and finally why is the lense on the xl1s longer than the lense on the gl2. I keep hearing that the images between the gl2 and the xl1s are very close.

Jeff Price · December 26th, 2003, 10:49 AM

There are several tele-extenders (1.7x and 2.0x) made by Sony and Century Optics. Any number of wide angle converters in you choice of angles made by a variety of companies. A 16:9 anamorphic converter from Century Optics. Matte boxes, lots!

Aaron Funk · December 26th, 2003, 11:18 PM

I am considering purchasing a gl2 and have a few audio questions concerning microphones.
I've done some research and decided the Sennheiser ME66 microphone would be a good shotugn mic to have on the camera. My first question is this?
1) Is it better to run the Sennheiser mic with battery power from the microphone adapter or use phantom power? I read somewhere that using phantom power sounds better, is this true?

2) How is the quality of the Canon MA300 XLR setup as compared to some of the products from Beachtek? Does is affect audio quality by going through the accessory shoe? Doe the MA300 supply phantom power?

I'd love to hear what anyone with some experience with these products has to say. Thanks

Don Palomaki · December 27th, 2003, 06:09 AM

NO phantom power from the MA300. Its sound quality could be slightly better than the Beachtek, but probably would need golden ears to hear any difference.

Per their specifications, some mics do have less distortion at very high sound levels when phantom power is used. However, the ME66 specs I've read do not reflect this sort of difference.

December 16th, 2003, 02:36 AM	#826
Eddie Jackson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 16	GL2 or XL1-S Just looking for a quick response to what the main differences are between these two awesome camera's. Wondering because I want to know if I should consider moving up to the XL1-S. Thanks. It was my understanding that the only difference is the interchangeable lenses?

December 16th, 2003, 05:52 AM	#827
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	. . don't know IF you've got the GL2 already . .? Here's a few . . . On our Forum: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=3018 . .nice table here: http://www.dvdirect.com/TSS/charts/CanonCamcorder.htm . .review-type things: http://videosystems.com/ar/video_canon_gl_camcorder/ http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...der_review.htm . . any good? For what it is worth, I'm happy with my XM2. The XL!s is still minidv. Yes has inter-lens . . has more bits 'n pieces you can buy. But, the XM2 has 2 x manual audio AND 20x zoom . . oh yes the XL1 systems are more expensive. Grazie

December 16th, 2003, 05:35 PM	#828
Andy Gaskin Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Henderson TN Posts: 1	Iris issues: not adjusting to low-light I'm having some trouble with my GL2's auto-exposure: while in any shooting mode (except AV) the camera will not re-adjust to low-light situations. For instance, when I power on the camera in "Easy Mode" a dark room remains dark. (I tested with a second GL2 I own and upon powering up it instantly adjusts to the low light). I can crank the E-lock up to +11, and then release it to get the proper exposure, but if I then point at a bright light (thus shrinking the iris) and then back to the dark room, it cannot re-adjust to the low light and the scene remains very dark. Interestingly AV shooting mode handles lighting changes fine. But no other mode. Again my other GL2 manages these situations perfectly. Any ideas? Am I missing a setting? Or headed for repair? thanks so much, -Andy

December 16th, 2003, 07:54 PM	#829
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Sounds like a trip to Canon service. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 18th, 2003, 04:00 AM	#830
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	White Balance Blowing to lower format? Okay, please have patience with me. I've used auto WB with DV and this isn't a problem. But I've been told that using Manual WB and then going to another situtation and filming - ie outside to inside shooting - and then going to a lower format for the final product - ie VHS tape - would end up "blowing" or over exposing the white areas. Is there a way of comabating this within Vegas in post? Or should I treat WB with specific respect, and use manual WB for each and every separate WB situation? Grazie

December 18th, 2003, 11:11 AM	#831
Bud Kuenzli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 197	white balance I think you must have a few things cockeyed here. White balance will normally have nothing to do with getting blown out highlights even if you go from one color temp to another. It may be possible that in some instances the color temperature shift might be -just- enough to bring something from legal to blown when you change your location, but it is much more likely the issue would be due to your manual shutter speed/f stop. If you are using manual controls and move to a new location you will obviously check your exposure and adjust it. Your manual color balance setting may not be correct if you dont' also adjust that, but if you have set your exposure properly, you won't get blown out highlights...you'll simply get the wrong colors. As for how it affects color or exposure going to VHS, I'll defer that to somebody else and invite an expert to correct me above if I'm wrong. :) __________________ on the Internet, when you get where you're going you still don't know where you are

December 26th, 2003, 12:25 AM	#832
Joel Corral Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 356	what other lense accessories are there for the GL2 hi, i have a few questions. what other lense accessories are there for the GL2? and what are the best? why would in need any? are there any possible ways to change the lense on the gl2? and finally why is the lense on the xl1s longer than the lense on the gl2. I keep hearing that the images between the gl2 and the xl1s are very close.

December 26th, 2003, 10:49 AM	#833
Jeff Price Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chico, California Posts: 357	There are several tele-extenders (1.7x and 2.0x) made by Sony and Century Optics. Any number of wide angle converters in you choice of angles made by a variety of companies. A 16:9 anamorphic converter from Century Optics. Matte boxes, lots! __________________ Jeff Price Flickerflix Nature Videos flickerflix@yahoo.com

December 26th, 2003, 11:18 PM	#834
Aaron Funk Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1	GL2 Audio questions I am considering purchasing a gl2 and have a few audio questions concerning microphones. I've done some research and decided the Sennheiser ME66 microphone would be a good shotugn mic to have on the camera. My first question is this? 1) Is it better to run the Sennheiser mic with battery power from the microphone adapter or use phantom power? I read somewhere that using phantom power sounds better, is this true? 2) How is the quality of the Canon MA300 XLR setup as compared to some of the products from Beachtek? Does is affect audio quality by going through the accessory shoe? Doe the MA300 supply phantom power? I'd love to hear what anyone with some experience with these products has to say. Thanks

December 27th, 2003, 06:09 AM	#835
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	NO phantom power from the MA300. Its sound quality could be slightly better than the Beachtek, but probably would need golden ears to hear any difference. Per their specifications, some mics do have less distortion at very high sound levels when phantom power is used. However, the ME66 specs I've read do not reflect this sort of difference. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com