GL / XM assorted posts, 2003

Ryan McCrary · July 7th, 2003, 07:36 AM

oh ok..

thsi is probably stupid but why is it that it cannot use them?

Mike Ostracky · July 7th, 2003, 08:45 AM

Hi all, I bought myself XM2 (Pal version of GL2) camera, and I`m more than pleased with it, it`s perfect (if there is such a thing :))...

Well, I`am not very close to Mr. Exposure, Mr. Gain and Mr. Shutter ;) I hope you get me. So I would grately appreciate if anyone could give me some tips on setting them manualy.

Don`t get me wrong, I know WHAT are they by definition, and I know that decreasing exposure will brighten my picture, as well as decreasing the F numbers... I just don`t know what are "normal" values etc. For example, when do you use shutter speed 1/25, 1/50 or 1/1400... Or according to what do you change the F numbers. And what`s with the gain ? Is it something electronical, it obviousely "gains" but does it boosts the grain on the picture also as a side effect, should I turn it all the way to zero and play with exposure and shutter settings as much of the time I can ?

Thankfully, white balance and ND filter I get :)

Oh, please don`t think I`m an idiot, I am not, I just bought this great camera and for a week or so I will have to use it, and I want to learn to do it all manually - believe me, I learn fast ;) So I have a few more questions.

What are your "Color Gain", "Color Phase", "Sharpness" and "Setup Level Values" - what do YOU prefer ? ...and is sharpness also electronically enhanced ? If it is should I turn it all the way down ?

Frame movie mode I won`t touch because I know how subjective that comes, and it`s the one thing I liked the first I tested it... I know, you loose some res, but I found out (that`s the only thing I`ve really done so far :)) that the picture (at least to my eye) is far more superior over deinterlacing - it seems much sharper... Ok, this I like, frames all the way.

Also, the 16:9 is done anamorphically, I like that mucho, but I supose there is a catch somewhere ? Shoot ! What`s the catch ? I know I`ll be better of using the widescreen adapter when I`ll need it, but what`s the catch with in-camera widescreen mode ? To me it looks good, but I somehow have a feeling it`s not...

Ok, this is it... For now :) THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO very much for help !!! You are all a life savers !

Why haven`t I found this great forum earlier !

Bud Kuenzli · July 7th, 2003, 08:50 AM

the lens is not removable. as it mentioned, you can buy a wide angle lens to thread onto the existing lens, but the existing lens is not removable.

Brendan Getchel · July 7th, 2003, 12:33 PM

Is there any way to "smooth" out the IRIS adjustment on the GL2 in full manual mode?

I have a new DVX100 (not mine) and really LOVE the smooth, dedicated IRIS thumbwheel it has. Perhaps my biggest gripe with the GL2 is the noticeable exposure "jumping" when bumping the aperture up or down. You can't do it while shooting, or if you do the footage is useless and doesn't make a smooth transition in difficult lighting -- whereas the DVX100 makes a nice, smooth transition without breaking a sweat.

The GL2 makes a smooth transistion when in "P" mode automatically -- no signs of "stepping." However, manually adjusting with that hokey thingamabob is a PITA.

Any way around it?

Graham Bernard · July 7th, 2003, 01:21 PM

Here too . .In the UK! Just been doing this in a London Park . . . Jumpy bumpy iris . . .

Grazie

Graham Bernard · July 7th, 2003, 02:02 PM

Hiyah Mike! See that you made it over here from the COW CanonDV site!

You've made it thus far - you've asked a whole bunch of questions - no problem. But to get you going and invite you to take advantage of what has been discussed here over the months the new XM2 has been out - my initial advice is for you to delve in amongst some of the stuff already here - yeah?

The search facilities here are splendid.

Good to see you here at THE House of Fun for the XM2,

Grazie

Joshua Badour · July 7th, 2003, 02:12 PM

I was playing with the GL2 the other day, and found the color gain, sharpness, etc. on that menu. Well, I changed the settings to see how far it would go, and it didn't appear to change the image as much as I'd have liked.

Is there any trick to this?

Bud Kuenzli · July 7th, 2003, 02:14 PM

nt

Mike Ostracky · July 7th, 2003, 02:49 PM

Yeah, I found some answers... Well, majority... And got some by firther experimenting with camera.

All i all, this is one GRRREAT forum !!!

Like I said before, very informative ;)

Thanks for directing me here.

Matt Elias · July 9th, 2003, 04:53 PM

Not sure what button I pushed, but "DV IF" flashes on my LCD. I'm still learning the ins and outs...

Graham Bernard · July 9th, 2003, 05:06 PM

Don't know this one. Crawled over my manual just now for you - nope, aint got it here on the XM2.

Grazie

Benjamin Taft · July 10th, 2003, 07:57 AM

If you want to radically change the way the video looks, doing it in post is probably the best option. I did some pretty neat color correction in FCP last night on a random clip I found, to make it look a bit like those darkish de-saturnated music videos.

Krishna Narayanamurti · July 10th, 2003, 04:56 PM

Hi, everyone. I made the mistake of doing a two-camera shoot of a graduation ceremony with a Sony TRV-900 and a Canon GL-2 and using the auto white balance on both cameras.

I'm editing in Final Cut Pro 3 and have tried playing around with some of the color correction filters (particularly the RGB balance one), none of which I have much experience with, so naturally, I haven't had much success getting the footage to match up.

Just wondering if anyone out there has some tips or can help point me in the right direction...?

Thanks so much.
Krishna

Bob Benkosky · July 10th, 2003, 11:21 PM

Canon's or Sennheiser or other?

Don't mention any XLR mics...... Just ones that can attach right away.

Bud Kuenzli · July 10th, 2003, 11:28 PM

I'll let those with experience with canon and senn chime in, but most mics can be connected to xlr or mini. Some mics have an attached cable, but most, like my azdens, have a male xlr connector and to that you can attach a cable that ends in another xlr connector or a mini, or I suppose, others. If I'm using my azden shotgun on my camera I probably have it connected to the mini; if I put it on a 20 foot cord, I can connect it with an xlr cable to a beachtek or studio 1 xlr adapter.

July 7th, 2003, 08:45 AM	#452
Mike Ostracky Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 30	Canon XM2 (GL2) fine adjusment questions... Hi all, I bought myself XM2 (Pal version of GL2) camera, and I`m more than pleased with it, it`s perfect (if there is such a thing :))... Well, I`am not very close to Mr. Exposure, Mr. Gain and Mr. Shutter ;) I hope you get me. So I would grately appreciate if anyone could give me some tips on setting them manualy. Don`t get me wrong, I know WHAT are they by definition, and I know that decreasing exposure will brighten my picture, as well as decreasing the F numbers... I just don`t know what are "normal" values etc. For example, when do you use shutter speed 1/25, 1/50 or 1/1400... Or according to what do you change the F numbers. And what`s with the gain ? Is it something electronical, it obviousely "gains" but does it boosts the grain on the picture also as a side effect, should I turn it all the way to zero and play with exposure and shutter settings as much of the time I can ? Thankfully, white balance and ND filter I get :) Oh, please don`t think I`m an idiot, I am not, I just bought this great camera and for a week or so I will have to use it, and I want to learn to do it all manually - believe me, I learn fast ;) So I have a few more questions. What are your "Color Gain", "Color Phase", "Sharpness" and "Setup Level Values" - what do YOU prefer ? ...and is sharpness also electronically enhanced ? If it is should I turn it all the way down ? Frame movie mode I won`t touch because I know how subjective that comes, and it`s the one thing I liked the first I tested it... I know, you loose some res, but I found out (that`s the only thing I`ve really done so far :)) that the picture (at least to my eye) is far more superior over deinterlacing - it seems much sharper... Ok, this I like, frames all the way. Also, the 16:9 is done anamorphically, I like that mucho, but I supose there is a catch somewhere ? Shoot ! What`s the catch ? I know I`ll be better of using the widescreen adapter when I`ll need it, but what`s the catch with in-camera widescreen mode ? To me it looks good, but I somehow have a feeling it`s not... Ok, this is it... For now :) THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO very much for help !!! You are all a life savers ! Why haven`t I found this great forum earlier !

July 7th, 2003, 08:50 AM	#453
Bud Kuenzli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 197	why? the lens is not removable. as it mentioned, you can buy a wide angle lens to thread onto the existing lens, but the existing lens is not removable. __________________ on the Internet, when you get where you're going you still don't know where you are

July 7th, 2003, 12:33 PM	#454
Brendan Getchel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Waterbury, CT Posts: 101	"Choppy" IRIS adjustment on GL2? Is there any way to "smooth" out the IRIS adjustment on the GL2 in full manual mode? I have a new DVX100 (not mine) and really LOVE the smooth, dedicated IRIS thumbwheel it has. Perhaps my biggest gripe with the GL2 is the noticeable exposure "jumping" when bumping the aperture up or down. You can't do it while shooting, or if you do the footage is useless and doesn't make a smooth transition in difficult lighting -- whereas the DVX100 makes a nice, smooth transition without breaking a sweat. The GL2 makes a smooth transistion when in "P" mode automatically -- no signs of "stepping." However, manually adjusting with that hokey thingamabob is a PITA. Any way around it? __________________ Dumb Guy.

July 7th, 2003, 02:12 PM	#457
Joshua Badour Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 32	Color Gain, Sharpness, etc. I was playing with the GL2 the other day, and found the color gain, sharpness, etc. on that menu. Well, I changed the settings to see how far it would go, and it didn't appear to change the image as much as I'd have liked. Is there any trick to this?

July 7th, 2003, 02:14 PM	#458
Bud Kuenzli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 197	nope. no trick (nt) nt __________________ on the Internet, when you get where you're going you still don't know where you are

July 7th, 2003, 07:36 AM	#451
Ryan McCrary Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chapin sc Posts: 41	oh ok.. thsi is probably stupid but why is it that it cannot use them?

July 7th, 2003, 01:21 PM	#455
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Here too . .In the UK! Just been doing this in a London Park . . . Jumpy bumpy iris . . . Grazie

July 7th, 2003, 02:02 PM	#456
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Hiyah Mike! See that you made it over here from the COW CanonDV site! You've made it thus far - you've asked a whole bunch of questions - no problem. But to get you going and invite you to take advantage of what has been discussed here over the months the new XM2 has been out - my initial advice is for you to delve in amongst some of the stuff already here - yeah? The search facilities here are splendid. Good to see you here at THE House of Fun for the XM2, Grazie

July 7th, 2003, 02:49 PM	#459
Mike Ostracky Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 30	Yeah :) Yeah, I found some answers... Well, majority... And got some by firther experimenting with camera. All i all, this is one GRRREAT forum !!! Like I said before, very informative ;) Thanks for directing me here.

July 9th, 2003, 04:53 PM	#460
Matt Elias Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 149	Dv If Not sure what button I pushed, but "DV IF" flashes on my LCD. I'm still learning the ins and outs...

July 9th, 2003, 05:06 PM	#461
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Don't know this one. Crawled over my manual just now for you - nope, aint got it here on the XM2. Grazie

July 10th, 2003, 07:57 AM	#462
Benjamin Taft Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 52	If you want to radically change the way the video looks, doing it in post is probably the best option. I did some pretty neat color correction in FCP last night on a random clip I found, to make it look a bit like those darkish de-saturnated music videos.

July 10th, 2003, 04:56 PM	#463
Krishna Narayanamurti Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 52	color correcting footage from gl2 mixed with sony trv900 Hi, everyone. I made the mistake of doing a two-camera shoot of a graduation ceremony with a Sony TRV-900 and a Canon GL-2 and using the auto white balance on both cameras. I'm editing in Final Cut Pro 3 and have tried playing around with some of the color correction filters (particularly the RGB balance one), none of which I have much experience with, so naturally, I haven't had much success getting the footage to match up. Just wondering if anyone out there has some tips or can help point me in the right direction...? Thanks so much. Krishna

July 10th, 2003, 11:21 PM	#464
Bob Benkosky Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lake Park, Florida Posts: 202	Which zoom mic is better? Canon's or Sennheiser or other? Don't mention any XLR mics...... Just ones that can attach right away. __________________ http://www.veoh.com/channels/filmmaker My clips and films.

July 10th, 2003, 11:28 PM	#465
Bud Kuenzli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 197	xlr mic? I'll let those with experience with canon and senn chime in, but most mics can be connected to xlr or mini. Some mics have an attached cable, but most, like my azdens, have a male xlr connector and to that you can attach a cable that ends in another xlr connector or a mini, or I suppose, others. If I'm using my azden shotgun on my camera I probably have it connected to the mini; if I put it on a 20 foot cord, I can connect it with an xlr cable to a beachtek or studio 1 xlr adapter. __________________ on the Internet, when you get where you're going you still don't know where you are