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Old July 24th, 2003, 08:22 PM   #196
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If you mean the Tiffen wide angle adaptors, yes they (all) have filter threads on the front. There's lots of misinformation on the B&H website, I find. Kenko adaptors also come with filter threads on the front; and the Raynox adaptors I've seen also have them.
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Old July 24th, 2003, 08:44 PM   #197
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Frank, we're talking about filters that are designed to go in front of or behind wide angle lenses (such as UV), not necessarily WA adapters. Just thought I'd clarify.
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Old July 24th, 2003, 08:56 PM   #198
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UV protection. Or would it cause too many abberations and flares with that much glass between the WA and the camera lens? I've never had any problems doing it that way (aside from vignetting). Explain why in front of the WA is better? I think I have an idea but I'd like to hear from others.
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Old July 24th, 2003, 09:09 PM   #199
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Frank, we're talking about filters that are designed to go in front of or behind wide angle lenses (such as UV), not necessarily WA adapters. Just thought I'd clarify.
front: vignetting most likely - the ultra slim ones work best, depending on the adaptor - but with "wides," now you know why Century and Sony (and Canon I believe) don't bother to put threads on in front.

back: same, but sometimes it works - not recommended

Either way, you want the strong slim ones, that would be...the brand that Bryan Beas bought. Hoya, I think---also multi-coated.
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Old July 24th, 2003, 11:07 PM   #200
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I use the Kenko wide angle .65 lens with the bayonet. It's very sharp, and it does have threads in the front but after I bought a UV filter for it I discovered that it adds a ton of excess flare and actually vignettes when its at its widest. Removing the UV filter solved the problem, and I use it all the time without any problems. I got it for $159 at Tristate photo.
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Old July 29th, 2003, 09:43 AM   #201
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Thanks for the review, Brendan - much appreciated. I'm more confident that the wd-58h is the way to go. Just in time for an order today.
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Old August 10th, 2003, 04:27 PM   #202
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wide angle

is there a huge difference between the glass or lenses available for the gl2.. there are plenty or lenses available on ebay anywhere from $60 to the wd-58h for $180..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=29964

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3335

how would those compare to the wd-58h.. i'm getting a wide angle for sure.. just wanted to find out any alternatives.. i like the fact that the wd-58 comes with a hood..

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Old August 10th, 2003, 04:31 PM   #203
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I got the 58h and use it a lot. The one thing I did not know when I got it is - you can not attach any filters to it. You will have to get a matte box if you want to use filters after you put the 58h on the camera. Some WA converters are threaded. I don't know which ones though.
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Old August 10th, 2003, 06:30 PM   #204
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If you get the WD58 and have double threaded filters you can probably get away with one between the camera and the adapter. A polarizer might be a hard one to manage but other ones that don't rotate might be ok.

Do a search for Wide Angle on here and you'll find lots and lots of threads about it. It seems that the WD58 is the best bang for the buck cause it's got a good price, good quality and full zoom through. You can buy something fancier of course but you will pay a lot more.

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Old August 10th, 2003, 06:32 PM   #205
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what about cheaper ones..
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Old August 10th, 2003, 06:37 PM   #206
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When it comes to glass, there are no deals. Good glass is expensive to manufacture and expensive to buy. Why would you want to put crap in front of that outstanding Canon flourite lens? Bad glass turns that great GL2 to a piece of daddy-cam junk.

Save up for a good wide-angle adapter such as the WD58H or a Century Optics. Just go without until then.
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Old August 10th, 2003, 06:57 PM   #207
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I hate to admit this, but I bought a $60 wide angle lens off of ebay. For what I do, I couldn't see spending the extra cash. Digital Optics .45x with macro from Japan. Although I've never used the wd58 on my GL2, I'm not that horribly dissapointed with the cheapie. It gives me a nice wide shot and I haven't had any complaints about the image quality.

I would never recommend that you get one in a pro environment, but hey, maybe its worth it for the other stuff.

If I get a chance, I will post len-on/lens-off pics so you can see for yourself.

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Old August 10th, 2003, 07:06 PM   #208
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Yea, I've just got the raynox .3x semi fish clip on for my rollerblading shots I do. It looks good but I'm going to upgrade to a century when I get the cash for it. They are a lot!
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Old August 10th, 2003, 07:24 PM   #209
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On the WD58h, I do put a filter between the camera and the WD. I haven't put more than one on though. One of these days I know I will have to get matte box, but it will be awhile.
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Old August 11th, 2003, 01:39 AM   #210
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Nobody ever seems to mention the Kenko bayonet WA adapter for GL2, but I've been using it for awhile and I love it. It's $159, (maybe even less now) and you can zoom through as well as put filters on if you'd like. I think Tokina/Kenko make decent glass, and the bayonet is a really fast take off/put on.
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