Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras

Bob Williams · January 11th, 2013, 12:55 PM

Don, Good Afternoon,

I already have that book on order from Amazon. As a matter of fact, you mention the origin of the Canon GL2. To show where I am, I thought the camera was put on the market about 2009. Fact is, the GL-2 pre-dated 2009. It was not until I began to go back in some of the posts here that people were talking about purchasing this camera as far back as 2006. That means the mini-tape technology came along very early. I am sure this technology is not being produced anymore (WOW)! I've got lots to learn and rearing to go (smile). Thanks so much sir.

bob williams

Chris Hurd · January 11th, 2013, 03:21 PM

The Mini-DV cassette tape was first introduced in 1995. Interestingly enough, Panasonic still carries a Mini-DV camcorder on their current product pages today, that being the venerable DVX100 "B" model at Panasonic AG-DVX100B Professional Camcorder -- and Panasonic had one of the very first Mini-DV camcorders ever, the AG-EZ1 (see http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/panasoni...ic-ag-ez1.html)

Sony still shows current with a tape-based HDV camcorder (records High Definition to Mini-DV), the HDR-FX1000, on their consumer site and *several* HDV camcorders still showing current on their pro video product pages at Sony | Cameras - Broadcast & Production | HDV

It ain't gone yet... the Mini-DV cassette tape is entering its 18th year!

Don Bloom · January 11th, 2013, 03:30 PM

I still have my VX1000 circa 1995 or 96. For it's time, it was world class!

Chris Hurd · January 11th, 2013, 04:15 PM

When the VX1000 initially came out, it made me take a long questioning look for the first time at the VX3 we had in our studio. I knew right then that we had to get with the program and graduate from Hi-8 on up to DV.

Don Palomaki · January 14th, 2013, 10:28 AM

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Fact is, the GL-2 pre-dated 2009.

Would you believe that the GL2 came out in the summer of 2002. It replaced the GL1 that came out in 1999.

It has had a remarkably long product life (over 10 yers so far). Canon still lists the GL2 on their professional camcorder Web page at CanonDV.com.

Bob Williams · January 14th, 2013, 12:33 PM

Good Monday Afternoon Don,

Are you kidding?? I had no idea the Canon GL-2 was that old. Indeed, it has been around for a long time. And you say Canon still has this camera listed. I would assume that as long as the GL-2 is listed they will provide service if needed. Thanks for the update sir.

bob williams

Chris Hurd · January 14th, 2013, 12:35 PM

Indeed, service will be provided up to seven years past the EOL (end-of-life) date. And as long as it's listed as a current product, it's not EOL.

Bob Williams · January 14th, 2013, 12:38 PM

Hello Chris,

Thank you for the followup. This is good to know and I can pass this on to my pastor.

bob williams

Luis Valenzuela · January 14th, 2013, 12:39 PM

Mr Bob Williams, let me be the first to chip in and suggest a specific NLE that will likely fit your needs. I will try to simplify my answer in order to explain my suggestion. For reference, I am a video editor for many years now, currently using Final Cut Pro (employment) and Edius (at home), but have created several pieces in various software packages such as Vegas Video, Adobe Premiere, Edit Studio, and even Casablanca editing hardware.

The program in question is called Edit Studio 6, created by Mediachance and it runs under Windows.

You have mentioned that your camera shoots in a standard definition 4x3 square-ish or 16x9 wide but anamorphic (anamorphic being a wide image squeezed into a square image, that gets 'un-squeezed' upon playback or editing.

From what I recall when using version 5 several years back, Edit Studio is extremely user friendly, fast, and very stable (rather important when editing long pieces). In fact, it is still my favorite piece of software for video editing, and I would be using it if was available for High Definition material.

Yes, it only edits Standard definition video, but this is actually a good thing. Let me explain: There are a few freeware programs that I use, and many of them do not get updated anymore even when the creator of those applications continues to remain active with other projects. You see, it is my belief that once a program reaches maturity, there is more chances for itself to become bloated and slow when more updates and features are added.

Edit Studio does not get updated anymore, but that's because it is extremely good at doing one thing: editing standard definition video. Considering that your footage is either AVI or MOV with DV compression, even a 7 year old computer wouldn't have problems editing your material.

I'm not going into the features of the program since they can easily be found on their homepage, but I have focused on the items that I believe make this program something to consider for ease of use, stability, and price... $50 or so.

I hope that helps. Regards

Bob Williams · January 14th, 2013, 02:18 PM

Good Monday afternoon Mr.Valenzuela,

Thank you sir for sharing this information with me. I have settled on "CyberLink PowerDirector Ultimate" as I move forward assisting my pastor and church. As stated before, my primary responsibility will be to process the video tape sermons via GL-2. The sermons all run about 50 to 55 minutes. There will be no splicing required usually. I should be able to move the videos from the camera to my computer for work using CyberLink PowerDirector Ultimate. Once that's complete I should have no problems moving the final work to the internet/church website. That's my thinking at least. We will have to see if the process goes as I have been told it should. Any additional suggestions and ideas using PowerDirector is welcomed.

bob williams

Don Palomaki · January 15th, 2013, 07:04 AM

Bob:

Since many NLE's have been mentioned above, a thought. Find the end user discussion/support forums (both the developer's and third party) for any software you are considering. Scan the posts and responses going back a year or so to get a feel for both the software problems, developer support for resolution, and user-to-user support. View them in light of your planned usage. (You can learn a lot from the posts of others that goes beyond the specific questions asked.)

Based on the discussions in this forum, I think that you would be well served by having a product with a substantial user community that is active in the forums.

Bob Williams · January 15th, 2013, 07:36 AM

Good Tuesday Morning Don,

To the best of my ability I've done just what you suggest here in your post. I have decided to go with CyberLink's PowerDirector 11. I believe this software package will do what I need and provide outstanding results for my pastor and my wife's real estate efforts. I am very excited and want to get started as quickly as possible. Of course I appreciate and continue to look for suggestions and help wherever I can get it. I can never know too much about this field. It is wide and expansive with all kinds of twists and turns. And I understand there is always new stuff to be learned. I've learned a great deal from great people right on this forum. What an exciting group of folk who take of their important time to assist me and others. I can never say "thank you" enough.

bob williams

Brian Drysdale · January 17th, 2013, 03:43 PM

It might be a bit lare, but you could also check out Lightworks. Lightworks This is a NLE with a long history and seems to be on the way towards a revival with over 400,000 users registered on its web site.

There are two versions available, a free version with some limitations or the Pro version which handles a much wider range of Codecs and has other features. The latter works on an annual subscription basis.

Currently, it's Windows, but it's working towards being cross platform.

January 11th, 2013, 12:55 PM	#16
Bob Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Atlanta Georgia Area Posts: 31	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Don, Good Afternoon, I already have that book on order from Amazon. As a matter of fact, you mention the origin of the Canon GL2. To show where I am, I thought the camera was put on the market about 2009. Fact is, the GL-2 pre-dated 2009. It was not until I began to go back in some of the posts here that people were talking about purchasing this camera as far back as 2006. That means the mini-tape technology came along very early. I am sure this technology is not being produced anymore (WOW)! I've got lots to learn and rearing to go (smile). Thanks so much sir. bob williams

January 11th, 2013, 03:21 PM	#17
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras The Mini-DV cassette tape was first introduced in 1995. Interestingly enough, Panasonic still carries a Mini-DV camcorder on their current product pages today, that being the venerable DVX100 "B" model at Panasonic AG-DVX100B Professional Camcorder -- and Panasonic had one of the very first Mini-DV camcorders ever, the AG-EZ1 (see http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/panasoni...ic-ag-ez1.html) Sony still shows current with a tape-based HDV camcorder (records High Definition to Mini-DV), the HDR-FX1000, on their consumer site and several HDV camcorders still showing current on their pro video product pages at Sony \| Cameras - Broadcast & Production \| HDV It ain't gone yet... the Mini-DV cassette tape is entering its 18th year! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 11th, 2013, 03:30 PM	#18
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras I still have my VX1000 circa 1995 or 96. For it's time, it was world class! __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

January 11th, 2013, 04:15 PM	#19
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras When the VX1000 initially came out, it made me take a long questioning look for the first time at the VX3 we had in our studio. I knew right then that we had to get with the program and graduate from Hi-8 on up to DV. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 14th, 2013, 12:33 PM	#21
Bob Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Atlanta Georgia Area Posts: 31	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Good Monday Afternoon Don, Are you kidding?? I had no idea the Canon GL-2 was that old. Indeed, it has been around for a long time. And you say Canon still has this camera listed. I would assume that as long as the GL-2 is listed they will provide service if needed. Thanks for the update sir. bob williams

January 14th, 2013, 12:35 PM	#22
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Indeed, service will be provided up to seven years past the EOL (end-of-life) date. And as long as it's listed as a current product, it's not EOL. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 14th, 2013, 12:38 PM	#23
Bob Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Atlanta Georgia Area Posts: 31	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Hello Chris, Thank you for the followup. This is good to know and I can pass this on to my pastor. bob williams

January 14th, 2013, 12:39 PM	#24
Luis Valenzuela New Boot Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California, United States Posts: 6	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Mr Bob Williams, let me be the first to chip in and suggest a specific NLE that will likely fit your needs. I will try to simplify my answer in order to explain my suggestion. For reference, I am a video editor for many years now, currently using Final Cut Pro (employment) and Edius (at home), but have created several pieces in various software packages such as Vegas Video, Adobe Premiere, Edit Studio, and even Casablanca editing hardware. The program in question is called Edit Studio 6, created by Mediachance and it runs under Windows. You have mentioned that your camera shoots in a standard definition 4x3 square-ish or 16x9 wide but anamorphic (anamorphic being a wide image squeezed into a square image, that gets 'un-squeezed' upon playback or editing. From what I recall when using version 5 several years back, Edit Studio is extremely user friendly, fast, and very stable (rather important when editing long pieces). In fact, it is still my favorite piece of software for video editing, and I would be using it if was available for High Definition material. Yes, it only edits Standard definition video, but this is actually a good thing. Let me explain: There are a few freeware programs that I use, and many of them do not get updated anymore even when the creator of those applications continues to remain active with other projects. You see, it is my belief that once a program reaches maturity, there is more chances for itself to become bloated and slow when more updates and features are added. Edit Studio does not get updated anymore, but that's because it is extremely good at doing one thing: editing standard definition video. Considering that your footage is either AVI or MOV with DV compression, even a 7 year old computer wouldn't have problems editing your material. I'm not going into the features of the program since they can easily be found on their homepage, but I have focused on the items that I believe make this program something to consider for ease of use, stability, and price... $50 or so. I hope that helps. Regards

January 14th, 2013, 02:18 PM	#25
Bob Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Atlanta Georgia Area Posts: 31	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Good Monday afternoon Mr.Valenzuela, Thank you sir for sharing this information with me. I have settled on "CyberLink PowerDirector Ultimate" as I move forward assisting my pastor and church. As stated before, my primary responsibility will be to process the video tape sermons via GL-2. The sermons all run about 50 to 55 minutes. There will be no splicing required usually. I should be able to move the videos from the camera to my computer for work using CyberLink PowerDirector Ultimate. Once that's complete I should have no problems moving the final work to the internet/church website. That's my thinking at least. We will have to see if the process goes as I have been told it should. Any additional suggestions and ideas using PowerDirector is welcomed. bob williams

January 15th, 2013, 07:04 AM	#26
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Bob: Since many NLE's have been mentioned above, a thought. Find the end user discussion/support forums (both the developer's and third party) for any software you are considering. Scan the posts and responses going back a year or so to get a feel for both the software problems, developer support for resolution, and user-to-user support. View them in light of your planned usage. (You can learn a lot from the posts of others that goes beyond the specific questions asked.) Based on the discussions in this forum, I think that you would be well served by having a product with a substantial user community that is active in the forums. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

January 15th, 2013, 07:36 AM	#27
Bob Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Atlanta Georgia Area Posts: 31	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras Good Tuesday Morning Don, To the best of my ability I've done just what you suggest here in your post. I have decided to go with CyberLink's PowerDirector 11. I believe this software package will do what I need and provide outstanding results for my pastor and my wife's real estate efforts. I am very excited and want to get started as quickly as possible. Of course I appreciate and continue to look for suggestions and help wherever I can get it. I can never know too much about this field. It is wide and expansive with all kinds of twists and turns. And I understand there is always new stuff to be learned. I've learned a great deal from great people right on this forum. What an exciting group of folk who take of their important time to assist me and others. I can never say "thank you" enough. bob williams

January 17th, 2013, 03:43 PM	#28
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Video Editing Software For GL-2 Cameras It might be a bit lare, but you could also check out Lightworks. Lightworks This is a NLE with a long history and seems to be on the way towards a revival with over 400,000 users registered on its web site. There are two versions available, a free version with some limitations or the Pro version which handles a much wider range of Codecs and has other features. The latter works on an annual subscription basis. Currently, it's Windows, but it's working towards being cross platform.