Various GL1 / XM1 questions

Don Palomaki · June 23rd, 2004, 04:15 AM

Connecting an external mic disconnects the internal mic. It is a feature of the microphone stereo mini jack.

Dan Heaton · June 24th, 2004, 02:32 PM

Hi,

I've heard a lot about how the gl2 has manual audio meters and I was wondering if there were accessories that I could buy for my gl1 to get similar control over the audio. I am interested in videoing quite a few interviews this summer using a wireless mic.

Thanks

Ken Tanaka · June 24th, 2004, 03:21 PM

A device like the Beachtek DXA-4P will provide you will channel-level control as well as XLR audio connections (which you'll probably need for most wireless receivers).

Don Palomaki · June 25th, 2004, 04:11 AM

A couple companies (SignVideo for one) offer VU ,meters that will provide some indication. They connect to an audio output jack. With a bit of skill you can use them to tell when the GL1 goes into limiting/gain eduction mode.

The main three distributors of XLR adapters with level controls are Beachtek, Studio 1, and SignVideo.

They often run ads. in Videomaker, etc.

Greg Anderson · June 30th, 2004, 01:29 PM

I've been trying to get my Studio 9 AV/DV setup to recognize my GL1. I thought it was the computer setup so I've been working with Pinnacle support. Yesterday I gave my camera to a friend who has a setup for his two Sony cameras and a DVD record deck with IEEE 1394. They couldn't find my camera. This morning, I called Canon and was told that any tapes recorded in LP cause the camera to not be recognized. On page 22 of the manual is a box that says the tapes can't be dubbed if recorded in LP. That's the only clue to the whole mess. Anybody know of a way to get all my kids' high school memories onto DVD from these LP tapes? Direct record to VCR doesn't work very well.

Ken Tanaka · June 30th, 2004, 01:41 PM

Off-hand, buy, borrow or rent a 2nd miniDV camera and transfer the LP footage to that camera's tape (recording in SP mode) via Firewire. The camera does not have to be a top-line unit but simply capable of recording from an external device.

Prospectively, as you've painfully learned, never use LP mode on any camera no matter how compelling you believe the reason. It's a well-worn topic here and you have a bit of company in your distress.

Greg Anderson · June 30th, 2004, 02:15 PM

Is there a way to output via Firewire to another camera or does it require some other mode? The manual isn't particularly helpful. The reason I recorded in LP in the first place was that all the events were more than an hour by ten or fifteen minutes. I thought I'd done a good thing. Guess not.

Ken Tanaka · June 30th, 2004, 02:47 PM

See "Dubbing to/from a Tape..." around p.99 of your manual. (The DV data stream is always sent to the Firewire port during playback.)

Greg Anderson · July 1st, 2004, 08:12 AM

Well, setting the camera to SP and 12-bit audio and recording a fresh tape gave me the same results. Neither computer recognizes the camera no matter how I attach it. I tried both 1394 drivers and used RegClean. DV IN flashes in a repeatable code but it doesn't show up in device manager. Canon helpline says the port is bad and send it in for repair. Sound right?

Hank Freeman · July 1st, 2004, 08:28 AM

your issue has nothing to do with tapes. in fact, connecting the GL1 to your computer and then to studio 9 while in 'CAMERA' will work and you could 'capture' live video being sent out the firewire port. I'd strongly suspect the port, since you've tried the alternate computer test and nothing was detected there. Of course, this assumes you tried a different firewire cable also.

Ted Banucci · July 8th, 2004, 03:21 PM

Hi, did a short search for this but could not find any answers.

I have an older GL1 that has been great for me throughout the years. However, it has started giving me some artifact problems that can be best seen here in this short clip:

http://www.tedandnicki.com/gl1/camera_gl1.mov

This particular problem occurred on a tape that had been used once before, however, I took a brand new tape and tried recording on that, only to encounter the same problem. What is strange is that after a while of recording on the used tape (maybe after 15 minutes), everything looked fine and the video I recorded was useable.

I tried cleaning the GL1 with a head cleaning tape and that did not do anything to remedy the problem.

Is this a problem with the heads? Anyone else familiar with this?

Thanks,
Ted

Mark Williams · July 8th, 2004, 05:22 PM

Ted,

This issue has been discussed before. For me it took a head alignment at Cannon to fix the problem. The GL-1 heads are somewhat notorious for getting out of alignment. Once fixed keep in mind that some of you old tapes may not replay properly if the heads were slightly out of alignment but playable when originally recorded. I lost playback capability on 25 tapes because of this.

Regards,

Mark

Barry Goyette · July 8th, 2004, 07:33 PM

I'm going to have to agree with mark on this....the fact that the artifacts are aligned with the left edge is intriguing...I've not seen this before...and it would make some sense if we we're talking analog video...but perhaps alignment will cause this in digital as well.

Try another cleaning or two...and only use new tapes...if it doesn't straighten out...I think its time for a service call...not bad for a camera of this age.

Barry

Ryan Martino · July 12th, 2004, 10:34 AM

my gl-1 does the exact same thing, on the left edge of the video.
and it's totally intermittent.

Ryan Martino · July 12th, 2004, 04:26 PM

hi everyone.

i did a search on this, but didn't find anything so here goes...

my GL1 is doing something really strange. it will randomly decide not to record any sound on the tape at all while i am shooting video. sometimes a single tape i've shot will have a clip with no sound, right in the middle of other clips that are fine. it seems to be completely random and intermittent.

the camera has been doing this for a while, but this weekend i had my first opportunity to capture some video onto a computer, and i learned something more about this.

the clips that don't have sound can't be captured at all. the computer had no idea what to do with them. any clip with sound could be captured easily, but the clips without sound could not.
i'm guessing there's some sort of timecode missing as well as the sound...?

the camera also produces the same type of visual artifacts as someone posted about recently, on the left of the video image. it does this completely intermittently as well.
in that thread everyone was talking about bad head alignment...
could that be the culprit for my missing sound and timecode as well?

any ideas?

-martino

June 23rd, 2004, 04:15 AM	#331
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Connecting an external mic disconnects the internal mic. It is a feature of the microphone stereo mini jack. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

June 24th, 2004, 02:32 PM	#332
Dan Heaton New Boot Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 9	getting good audio on gl1 Hi, I've heard a lot about how the gl2 has manual audio meters and I was wondering if there were accessories that I could buy for my gl1 to get similar control over the audio. I am interested in videoing quite a few interviews this summer using a wireless mic. Thanks

June 24th, 2004, 03:21 PM	#333
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	A device like the Beachtek DXA-4P will provide you will channel-level control as well as XLR audio connections (which you'll probably need for most wireless receivers). __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

June 25th, 2004, 04:11 AM	#334
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	A couple companies (SignVideo for one) offer VU ,meters that will provide some indication. They connect to an audio output jack. With a bit of skill you can use them to tell when the GL1 goes into limiting/gain eduction mode. The main three distributors of XLR adapters with level controls are Beachtek, Studio 1, and SignVideo. They often run ads. in Videomaker, etc. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

June 30th, 2004, 01:29 PM	#335
Greg Anderson Tourist Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 3	GL1 connection to Pinnacle I've been trying to get my Studio 9 AV/DV setup to recognize my GL1. I thought it was the computer setup so I've been working with Pinnacle support. Yesterday I gave my camera to a friend who has a setup for his two Sony cameras and a DVD record deck with IEEE 1394. They couldn't find my camera. This morning, I called Canon and was told that any tapes recorded in LP cause the camera to not be recognized. On page 22 of the manual is a box that says the tapes can't be dubbed if recorded in LP. That's the only clue to the whole mess. Anybody know of a way to get all my kids' high school memories onto DVD from these LP tapes? Direct record to VCR doesn't work very well.

June 30th, 2004, 01:41 PM	#336
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Off-hand, buy, borrow or rent a 2nd miniDV camera and transfer the LP footage to that camera's tape (recording in SP mode) via Firewire. The camera does not have to be a top-line unit but simply capable of recording from an external device. Prospectively, as you've painfully learned, never use LP mode on any camera no matter how compelling you believe the reason. It's a well-worn topic here and you have a bit of company in your distress. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

June 30th, 2004, 02:15 PM	#337
Greg Anderson Tourist Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 3	Is there a way to output via Firewire to another camera or does it require some other mode? The manual isn't particularly helpful. The reason I recorded in LP in the first place was that all the events were more than an hour by ten or fifteen minutes. I thought I'd done a good thing. Guess not.

June 30th, 2004, 02:47 PM	#338
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	See "Dubbing to/from a Tape..." around p.99 of your manual. (The DV data stream is always sent to the Firewire port during playback.) __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

July 1st, 2004, 08:12 AM	#339
Greg Anderson Tourist Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 3	Well, setting the camera to SP and 12-bit audio and recording a fresh tape gave me the same results. Neither computer recognizes the camera no matter how I attach it. I tried both 1394 drivers and used RegClean. DV IN flashes in a repeatable code but it doesn't show up in device manager. Canon helpline says the port is bad and send it in for repair. Sound right?

July 1st, 2004, 08:28 AM	#340
Hank Freeman Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 37	your issue has nothing to do with tapes. in fact, connecting the GL1 to your computer and then to studio 9 while in 'CAMERA' will work and you could 'capture' live video being sent out the firewire port. I'd strongly suspect the port, since you've tried the alternate computer test and nothing was detected there. Of course, this assumes you tried a different firewire cable also.

July 8th, 2004, 03:21 PM	#341
Ted Banucci Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose, CA USA Posts: 27	Bad artifact problems- GL1 Hi, did a short search for this but could not find any answers. I have an older GL1 that has been great for me throughout the years. However, it has started giving me some artifact problems that can be best seen here in this short clip: http://www.tedandnicki.com/gl1/camera_gl1.mov This particular problem occurred on a tape that had been used once before, however, I took a brand new tape and tried recording on that, only to encounter the same problem. What is strange is that after a while of recording on the used tape (maybe after 15 minutes), everything looked fine and the video I recorded was useable. I tried cleaning the GL1 with a head cleaning tape and that did not do anything to remedy the problem. Is this a problem with the heads? Anyone else familiar with this? Thanks, Ted

July 8th, 2004, 05:22 PM	#342
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Ted, This issue has been discussed before. For me it took a head alignment at Cannon to fix the problem. The GL-1 heads are somewhat notorious for getting out of alignment. Once fixed keep in mind that some of you old tapes may not replay properly if the heads were slightly out of alignment but playable when originally recorded. I lost playback capability on 25 tapes because of this. Regards, Mark

July 8th, 2004, 07:33 PM	#343
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	I'm going to have to agree with mark on this....the fact that the artifacts are aligned with the left edge is intriguing...I've not seen this before...and it would make some sense if we we're talking analog video...but perhaps alignment will cause this in digital as well. Try another cleaning or two...and only use new tapes...if it doesn't straighten out...I think its time for a service call...not bad for a camera of this age. Barry

July 12th, 2004, 10:34 AM	#344
Ryan Martino Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 48	my gl-1 does the exact same thing, on the left edge of the video. and it's totally intermittent.

July 12th, 2004, 04:26 PM	#345
Ryan Martino Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 48	strange problems with my GL1... hi everyone. i did a search on this, but didn't find anything so here goes... my GL1 is doing something really strange. it will randomly decide not to record any sound on the tape at all while i am shooting video. sometimes a single tape i've shot will have a clip with no sound, right in the middle of other clips that are fine. it seems to be completely random and intermittent. the camera has been doing this for a while, but this weekend i had my first opportunity to capture some video onto a computer, and i learned something more about this. the clips that don't have sound can't be captured at all. the computer had no idea what to do with them. any clip with sound could be captured easily, but the clips without sound could not. i'm guessing there's some sort of timecode missing as well as the sound...? the camera also produces the same type of visual artifacts as someone posted about recently, on the left of the video image. it does this completely intermittently as well. in that thread everyone was talking about bad head alignment... could that be the culprit for my missing sound and timecode as well? any ideas? -martino