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Alan McCormick · April 7th, 2004, 12:06 PM

I have been approached to do a 30 sec TV commercial (for a local TV station). Can anyone advise if I can use the Canon XM2 (DV) format and LE to output???

Any advice is appreciated.

Darko Flajpan · April 7th, 2004, 01:27 PM

If you are asking can you make a commercial with XM2 - yes. I ussualy edit on laptop, and then copy to SONY DSR40 DVCAM deck, which is connected to DigiBeta. No problems so far, just funny look on the faces of some people when they hear that material is shot on XM. "No way...this is Betacam".....:-)

Rob Wilson · April 7th, 2004, 02:42 PM

Alan,

I'll second that. The GL2 will produce good enough quality that all but the trained eye would never know the difference once it's broadcast. I've done both commercials and news stories. They look just fine. Key to the equation though is not asking more of the cam than it's capable of. Be sure you have decent light and quality audio.

Alan McCormick · April 7th, 2004, 03:12 PM

Thanks guys,

You have given me the answers I hoped for. Fully understand the lighting and manual settings etc, must say that I use manual all the time and have found "good" lighting is a must for "good" results. Thanks again.

One question, what format do TV stations accept i.e will I have to convert to something else? I am contacting them tomorrow but curious.

Travis Cossel · April 7th, 2004, 03:16 PM

You most definately can. We've used XL1's for commercial shoots, and in my opinion, the GL2 image is better quality. I'm currently working on a PSA for the American Cancer Society which will use footage from a pair of GL2's, and it's going to work just fine.

::EDITED::

Sorry, I got tied up with some other things and this got posted after your reply. I've heard that many stations will actually accept DV tapes now, if that helps. You should probably check with the stations to make certain, though.

Darko Flajpan · April 7th, 2004, 03:19 PM

Well, every TV station is prefering format they are using. But I believe all of them will accept DV, cause I don't know any TV station without DV/DVCAM deck. My TV station is working on DigiBeta, but will accept DV without any problems.

Kris Holodak · April 7th, 2004, 03:23 PM

I've given miniDV tapes to local TV stations, but each station could be different.

-Kris

Rob Wilson · April 7th, 2004, 03:47 PM

Check in advance to be sure. Many can now accept DV. Usually they'll have at least one deck thats compatible. I found some that don't know they can use their DVCPro decks to play DVCAM/MiniDv so you may want to mention that.

Graham Bernard · April 7th, 2004, 04:06 PM

Alan, congrats on the job itself - well done! I know what it means for you . . I'm sure you will do good! Lighting IS everything . . . no matter how much of the Manual you have eaten . . yeah?

Grazie

Alan McCormick · April 7th, 2004, 11:32 PM

Thanks for your help and encouragement, time will tell but the good basic principles will hold out as normal.

Rob,

I am afraid I would not know how to ask more of the Cam as I am happy with the results I get (mostly), I never blame the Cam though.

Travis & Darko,

Will find out today about what the station will acccept but it is great to hear that they are accepting DV so I don't have to get it changed.

Grazie,

Thanks, not a South East TV (ours) but up North as a follow on from my venture up there a few weeks ago. I still say it is not concrete but is very interesting. Also arranging some other shoots for the near future, will keep you informed.

April 7th, 2004, 12:06 PM	#1
Alan McCormick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chatham, UK Posts: 282	TV quality footage I have been approached to do a 30 sec TV commercial (for a local TV station). Can anyone advise if I can use the Canon XM2 (DV) format and LE to output??? Any advice is appreciated. __________________ Alan McC

April 7th, 2004, 03:12 PM	#4
Alan McCormick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chatham, UK Posts: 282	Thanks guys, You have given me the answers I hoped for. Fully understand the lighting and manual settings etc, must say that I use manual all the time and have found "good" lighting is a must for "good" results. Thanks again. One question, what format do TV stations accept i.e will I have to convert to something else? I am contacting them tomorrow but curious. __________________ Alan McC

April 7th, 2004, 03:16 PM	#5
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	You most definately can. We've used XL1's for commercial shoots, and in my opinion, the GL2 image is better quality. I'm currently working on a PSA for the American Cancer Society which will use footage from a pair of GL2's, and it's going to work just fine. ::EDITED:: Sorry, I got tied up with some other things and this got posted after your reply. I've heard that many stations will actually accept DV tapes now, if that helps. You should probably check with the stations to make certain, though. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

April 7th, 2004, 04:06 PM	#9
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Well Done Alan! Alan, congrats on the job itself - well done! I know what it means for you . . I'm sure you will do good! Lighting IS everything . . . no matter how much of the Manual you have eaten . . yeah? Grazie

April 7th, 2004, 11:32 PM	#10
Alan McCormick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chatham, UK Posts: 282	Thanks for your help and encouragement, time will tell but the good basic principles will hold out as normal. Rob, I am afraid I would not know how to ask more of the Cam as I am happy with the results I get (mostly), I never blame the Cam though. Travis & Darko, Will find out today about what the station will acccept but it is great to hear that they are accepting DV so I don't have to get it changed. Grazie, Thanks, not a South East TV (ours) but up North as a follow on from my venture up there a few weeks ago. I still say it is not concrete but is very interesting. Also arranging some other shoots for the near future, will keep you informed. __________________ Alan McC

April 7th, 2004, 01:27 PM	#2
Darko Flajpan Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bjelovar, Croatia Posts: 153	If you are asking can you make a commercial with XM2 - yes. I ussualy edit on laptop, and then copy to SONY DSR40 DVCAM deck, which is connected to DigiBeta. No problems so far, just funny look on the faces of some people when they hear that material is shot on XM. "No way...this is Betacam".....:-)

April 7th, 2004, 02:42 PM	#3
Rob Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 473	Alan, I'll second that. The GL2 will produce good enough quality that all but the trained eye would never know the difference once it's broadcast. I've done both commercials and news stories. They look just fine. Key to the equation though is not asking more of the cam than it's capable of. Be sure you have decent light and quality audio.

April 7th, 2004, 03:19 PM	#6
Darko Flajpan Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bjelovar, Croatia Posts: 153	Well, every TV station is prefering format they are using. But I believe all of them will accept DV, cause I don't know any TV station without DV/DVCAM deck. My TV station is working on DigiBeta, but will accept DV without any problems.

April 7th, 2004, 03:23 PM	#7
Kris Holodak Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 302	I've given miniDV tapes to local TV stations, but each station could be different. -Kris

April 7th, 2004, 03:47 PM	#8
Rob Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 473	Check in advance to be sure. Many can now accept DV. Usually they'll have at least one deck thats compatible. I found some that don't know they can use their DVCPro decks to play DVCAM/MiniDv so you may want to mention that.