Data Codes

Graham Bernard · February 17th, 2004, 10:22 PM

Hiyah Michael . . good set of questions . . . I'm listenning too!

Yup forum was terrific . . . suppose I'll have to wait till next year? ANy others you know about going on between?

Grazie

Alan McCormick · February 18th, 2004, 12:02 AM

No idea about the Sony data tapes Michael.

Probably is the same "data", am out today shooting so will try the [data code permanently recorded on the tape by turning "CHAR. REC" on under "SYSTEM" menu] as suggested by Colin Sze earlier.

OT - would have loved to spend all 3 days at Wembley Forum but work got in the way. Lucky Grazie lives there!

Rob Lohman · February 18th, 2004, 06:07 PM

Don't get the sony data/chipped tapes. They are of no use in
a Canon camera and almost have no use anyway. Almost no
camera takes full use of the chip on in the tape. It can store
things like timecode (so in theory it should continue with the
latest sample even if you start on a blank spot).

All information like timecode, date, time and camera settings
are always recorded on tape in a special data sections in the
data stream. It is in the DV standard. No need for special tapes!

Graham Bernard · February 19th, 2004, 12:16 AM

Rob - Nice! Read my signature . . .ah HAH!

Grazie

Rob Lohman · February 19th, 2004, 06:01 AM

Exactly grazie!

Michael Connor · February 19th, 2004, 10:59 AM

cheers 4 this. Is good to know the cheapest r the best here! Nope not aware of any other forums. CKE distribution had a few mini forums of their own, but there are no more advertised on their sight. Heres to next year coz that was amazing!

Alan McCormick · February 19th, 2004, 02:59 PM

Colin Sze,

Finally checked out the Char Code and yes it works as long as you remember the following:

1. Read the manual ;) (me that is)
2. When in VCR playback press display/data code button in the LCD cubby hole.

That was the bit I forgot (see XM2 manual P88)

Very interesting as I reviewed my 1st tape with the XM2 and what a revelation, I am definitely getting better. I had 18dB set on & off a lot whereas the F stop & Shutter could have helped, leeway available.

I am now sane again.

As long as I can review on Cam I am not too bothered, will try and capture "live" onto the PC. That should work OK, will let you know.

Colin Sze · February 21st, 2004, 01:12 PM

Alan, if what you want is to view the data on built-in LCD (or VF), or TV thru S-video, then you do not need to turn on "CHAR REC". Because when it is turned on when shooting, the data are merged onto your footage, and there is no way to turn it off. I guess you are aware of it.
It is always nice to know someone really makes progress. I am kind of lazy and still stumbling at the low learning curve.

Alan McCormick · February 21st, 2004, 01:48 PM

I actually wanted both (LCD & on tape).

Well impressed with the LCD monitoring just with the little button.
This is something I will use as I learn and get more confident, only checking the dodgy bits.

Thanx for your help.

February 18th, 2004, 12:02 AM	#17
Alan McCormick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chatham, UK Posts: 282	No idea about the Sony data tapes Michael. Probably is the same "data", am out today shooting so will try the [data code permanently recorded on the tape by turning "CHAR. REC" on under "SYSTEM" menu] as suggested by Colin Sze earlier. OT - would have loved to spend all 3 days at Wembley Forum but work got in the way. Lucky Grazie lives there! __________________ Alan McC

February 18th, 2004, 06:07 PM	#18
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Don't get the sony data/chipped tapes. They are of no use in a Canon camera and almost have no use anyway. Almost no camera takes full use of the chip on in the tape. It can store things like timecode (so in theory it should continue with the latest sample even if you start on a blank spot). All information like timecode, date, time and camera settings are always recorded on tape in a special data sections in the data stream. It is in the DV standard. No need for special tapes! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 19th, 2004, 06:01 AM	#20
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Exactly grazie! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 19th, 2004, 10:59 AM	#21
Michael Connor Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Durham, England Posts: 138	cheers 4 this. Is good to know the cheapest r the best here! Nope not aware of any other forums. CKE distribution had a few mini forums of their own, but there are no more advertised on their sight. Heres to next year coz that was amazing! __________________ StMichael

February 19th, 2004, 02:59 PM	#22
Alan McCormick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chatham, UK Posts: 282	Tape Code Colin Sze, Finally checked out the Char Code and yes it works as long as you remember the following: 1. Read the manual ;) (me that is) 2. When in VCR playback press display/data code button in the LCD cubby hole. That was the bit I forgot (see XM2 manual P88) Very interesting as I reviewed my 1st tape with the XM2 and what a revelation, I am definitely getting better. I had 18dB set on & off a lot whereas the F stop & Shutter could have helped, leeway available. I am now sane again. As long as I can review on Cam I am not too bothered, will try and capture "live" onto the PC. That should work OK, will let you know. __________________ Alan McC

February 17th, 2004, 10:22 PM	#16
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Hiyah Michael . . good set of questions . . . I'm listenning too! Yup forum was terrific . . . suppose I'll have to wait till next year? ANy others you know about going on between? Grazie

February 19th, 2004, 12:16 AM	#19
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Rob - Nice! Read my signature . . .ah HAH! Grazie

February 21st, 2004, 01:12 PM	#23
Colin Sze Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 32	Alan, if what you want is to view the data on built-in LCD (or VF), or TV thru S-video, then you do not need to turn on "CHAR REC". Because when it is turned on when shooting, the data are merged onto your footage, and there is no way to turn it off. I guess you are aware of it. It is always nice to know someone really makes progress. I am kind of lazy and still stumbling at the low learning curve.

February 21st, 2004, 01:48 PM	#24
Alan McCormick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chatham, UK Posts: 282	I actually wanted both (LCD & on tape). Well impressed with the LCD monitoring just with the little button. This is something I will use as I learn and get more confident, only checking the dodgy bits. Thanx for your help. __________________ Alan McC