Seen on the COW Canon site . . . New Canon?? at DVinfo.net

Graham Bernard · July 3rd, 2003, 10:40 AM

"I'm also interested in buying the GL2 (XM2 here in Oz), but have delayed buying it for the moment, as a source at Canon, has mentioned that a new model being released here towards the end of July. Please note I cannot get any official confirmation of this "second hand news". "

Anybody gotta a view on this morsel???

Grazie

Frank Granovski · July 3rd, 2003, 11:15 AM

Do you have the direct link for this "cow" thread?

Graham Bernard · July 3rd, 2003, 02:07 PM

Try this Frank:

http://www.creativecow.net/index.php?forumid=59

Title:

Re: XL1s vs GL2 by Stefan

Grazie

Frank Granovski · July 3rd, 2003, 02:14 PM

Thanks! I'll go take a look.

Frank Granovski · July 3rd, 2003, 02:18 PM

I though I'd find a little more there than with what you posted. Oh well. Perhaps Chris Hurd has some inside info.

Sho Hirofumi · July 4th, 2003, 08:20 PM

There was an official announcement yesterday in Japan from the four companies (Canon, Sony, Sharp and JVC) that have agreed on the new HDV spec. This spec defines the new standard for using DV cassette tapes to record HD (Digital High Defintion) video at 720p (progressive) and 1080i (interlaced) formats. Currently only JVC has released a product, the GR-HD1.

My guess is if Canon releases anything soon, it might be a new HDV camera.

Chris Hurd · July 4th, 2003, 10:03 PM

<< Perhaps Chris Hurd has some inside info. >>

I'm always the last to know, sorry.

Graham Bernard · July 4th, 2003, 11:12 PM

Thanks Sho! - Excellent news. Doubt if I've got the money to go HD - yet! But it does show Canon is no slouch, regarding keeping their R&D up to speed. This in itself must good for all us miniDV-ers. Maybe some "trickle-down" in the future. Or does it mean the death of it . . . . .

Chris - Don't take it personally. Just remember that classic, "I HURD it on the grapevine!" - Sorry matey, couldn't resist it . . ;-)

Much respect,

Grazie

Bill Ravens · July 5th, 2003, 05:06 AM

right now, one can count on spending more on a way to show true HD than they can on a way to capture HD. most consumers are unaware that HDTV's currently available aren't true HD. This whole technology has a ways to go before it's viable for home users

Peter Moore · July 5th, 2003, 09:53 AM

"most consumers are unaware that HDTV's currently available aren't true HD."

Excuse me? You mean when I watched the NBA finals in High Definition last month with a Samsung SIR-T151 receiver, I wasn't watching true HD?

Bill Ravens · July 5th, 2003, 10:37 AM

ahhh...exactly my point. first you had to have an HDTC capable monitor, right? then you bought a decoder, right? now, I ask you, besides an input broadcast HDTV signal, how will you get HD output from your HD cam or computer file into your "HDTV" ready monitor. I don't beleive that Samsung has an input port. I'm not saying it can't be done, i'm just saying you'd better be prepared to spend a LOT of $$$ to expereince the full quality available from HDTV. I haven't read the specs on that samsung, but, for the money, it's probably not more than 780p. true HD is 1080p.

Peter Moore · July 5th, 2003, 06:15 PM

No, no receiver that I know of has an input for HDTV other than a broadcast from over the air or satellite or cable.

Hm, I just thought of a very very good idea - a computer card that'll take your HD video made on your computer and output it with DVI or component video. That can't be that hard or expensive to make. In fact I bet something like that exists already.

Aaron Holder · July 8th, 2003, 06:13 PM

I read that the new hd cameras are using a Mpeg-2 encoding at 18mbits to encode the HD signal. It has specs for a 780i/780p/1080i mode. I imagine that dvd or blue ray players will be the prefered delivery choice for this new format, though you will only get about 30 minutes on the current dvd-r discs until blue ray takes off. You would need a Component or DVI output to get the HD signal into a monitor from your computer. I am sure cards are available to output that already.

July 3rd, 2003, 10:40 AM	#1
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Seen on the COW Canon site . . . New Canon?? "I'm also interested in buying the GL2 (XM2 here in Oz), but have delayed buying it for the moment, as a source at Canon, has mentioned that a new model being released here towards the end of July. Please note I cannot get any official confirmation of this "second hand news". " Anybody gotta a view on this morsel??? Grazie

July 3rd, 2003, 02:07 PM	#3
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	COW SITE: Link- ish Try this Frank: http://www.creativecow.net/index.php?forumid=59 Title: Re: XL1s vs GL2 by Stefan Grazie

July 4th, 2003, 08:20 PM	#6
Sho Hirofumi Tourist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1	perhaps a new HDV camera? There was an official announcement yesterday in Japan from the four companies (Canon, Sony, Sharp and JVC) that have agreed on the new HDV spec. This spec defines the new standard for using DV cassette tapes to record HD (Digital High Defintion) video at 720p (progressive) and 1080i (interlaced) formats. Currently only JVC has released a product, the GR-HD1. My guess is if Canon releases anything soon, it might be a new HDV camera.

July 4th, 2003, 10:03 PM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	<< Perhaps Chris Hurd has some inside info. >> I'm always the last to know, sorry. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 8th, 2003, 06:13 PM	#13
Aaron Holder Tourist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1	New HDTV format is Mpeg-2 format I read that the new hd cameras are using a Mpeg-2 encoding at 18mbits to encode the HD signal. It has specs for a 780i/780p/1080i mode. I imagine that dvd or blue ray players will be the prefered delivery choice for this new format, though you will only get about 30 minutes on the current dvd-r discs until blue ray takes off. You would need a Component or DVI output to get the HD signal into a monitor from your computer. I am sure cards are available to output that already.

July 3rd, 2003, 11:15 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Do you have the direct link for this "cow" thread?

July 3rd, 2003, 02:14 PM	#4
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Thanks! I'll go take a look.

July 3rd, 2003, 02:18 PM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I though I'd find a little more there than with what you posted. Oh well. Perhaps Chris Hurd has some inside info.

July 4th, 2003, 11:12 PM	#8
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Thanks Sho! - Excellent news. Doubt if I've got the money to go HD - yet! But it does show Canon is no slouch, regarding keeping their R&D up to speed. This in itself must good for all us miniDV-ers. Maybe some "trickle-down" in the future. Or does it mean the death of it . . . . . Chris - Don't take it personally. Just remember that classic, "I HURD it on the grapevine!" - Sorry matey, couldn't resist it . . ;-) Much respect, Grazie

July 5th, 2003, 05:06 AM	#9
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	right now, one can count on spending more on a way to show true HD than they can on a way to capture HD. most consumers are unaware that HDTV's currently available aren't true HD. This whole technology has a ways to go before it's viable for home users

July 5th, 2003, 09:53 AM	#10
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	"most consumers are unaware that HDTV's currently available aren't true HD." Excuse me? You mean when I watched the NBA finals in High Definition last month with a Samsung SIR-T151 receiver, I wasn't watching true HD?

July 5th, 2003, 10:37 AM	#11
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	ahhh...exactly my point. first you had to have an HDTC capable monitor, right? then you bought a decoder, right? now, I ask you, besides an input broadcast HDTV signal, how will you get HD output from your HD cam or computer file into your "HDTV" ready monitor. I don't beleive that Samsung has an input port. I'm not saying it can't be done, i'm just saying you'd better be prepared to spend a LOT of $$$ to expereince the full quality available from HDTV. I haven't read the specs on that samsung, but, for the money, it's probably not more than 780p. true HD is 1080p.

July 5th, 2003, 06:15 PM	#12
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	No, no receiver that I know of has an input for HDTV other than a broadcast from over the air or satellite or cable. Hm, I just thought of a very very good idea - a computer card that'll take your HD video made on your computer and output it with DVI or component video. That can't be that hard or expensive to make. In fact I bet something like that exists already.