Tape care at DVinfo.net

Justin Morgan · July 1st, 2003, 03:41 AM

I know there must have been lots of threads about this before but using the search function brings up a MASSIVE array of posts. I know there is a FAQs section on its way - a superb idea!

I have read a few posts in the past (and using search) but do not really have ALL the informatoin I want close to hand. I just wanted to get things clarified. So, my question is - what is good general practice for getting the best out of DV tapes?

Should I run a new tape through the camera (Fforward and then Rewind) before using it, take the tape out of the camera after a shoot, rewinding them after use (however this means having to wind forward to the end of the last shot each time I want to use the tape). Sticking with one brand. Using a new tape for important work. Keeping rewinding etc to a minimum (this conflicts with argument for rewinding the tape after each use). Plus any other useful information etc etc etc etc.

Many thanks.

Bud Kuenzli · July 1st, 2003, 09:35 AM

no science here...just reflecting what I've heard and experienced...

Try to stick with one brand. Only shoot in normal speed (don't use long play mode). If you have a deck, run the tape forward and then reverse it if you wish, but I've never seen any real data to back this up as necessary. Might as well black and code it while you do that, but don't bother doing it on your camera since the wear to the heads probably outweighs any benefit to the tape. Don't rewind the tape every time you use it. Leave it where it was until it is filled, then rewind it. Use new tapes, of course. If you're really on a budget you certainly can re-use tapes but I wouldn't do so for any professional work since they are cheap when you are getting paid. I reuse tapes all the time for family things.

Bob Benkosky · July 2nd, 2003, 12:55 AM

However, which are the best tapes for our camera's anyhow???

I've seen some really expensive Sony's with somekind of IC ship in them. They are supposed to be very durable. They are really expensive though.

What is the consensus on tape brand on here? My camera arrives Thursday.

Don Palomaki · July 2nd, 2003, 04:45 AM

The tape cassette memory chip is of value only if your camcorder makes use of it. The XL1 and GL1 do not make use of it, so it may well be a waste of money if you do not have other machines that use it..

I've been satisfied with Panasonic brand tape.

Devin Doyle · July 2nd, 2003, 08:21 PM

I've always stuck with Sony and have never had any problems. I use the DVM-60's on my GL1 and am always satisfied. I forget if it was mentioned above but store the tapes upright and never flat. Also always take the tapes out whenever not in use. No sense in stretching tape when you don't have to. Good luck with the new cam!

Jack Robertson · July 2nd, 2003, 08:42 PM

Hi There,

I work in the broadcast industry and winding tapes forwards and then rewinding them back is called repacking the tapes. It is necessary to do this if you use one tape in one spot all the time (ie: record on the first 5 minutes and then rerecord on the same spot and play back on the same spot). Repacking loosens the tape to its normal state as it was when first bought. The properway to repack is to rewind all the wat to the head, then fast forward to the end of tape and then rewind back to head again.

it is hard to determine when to repack a tape, then only way to really know is whe you get drop outs on the vision. When this happens, the drive system is strugling to transport the tape in the camera as its hard to move due to the tape being hard to turn.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Jack

Luke Gates · July 9th, 2003, 07:41 AM

wow...I didn't know that. I don't think it has an effect on our prosumer GL/sony VX cams. But who, knows...I'm sure you have more experience than I.

Jesper Hallen · July 10th, 2003, 08:22 AM

always store your tapes up-standing, like you store books for example, that's best for the tapes.

July 1st, 2003, 03:41 AM	#1
Justin Morgan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London Posts: 189	Tape care I know there must have been lots of threads about this before but using the search function brings up a MASSIVE array of posts. I know there is a FAQs section on its way - a superb idea! I have read a few posts in the past (and using search) but do not really have ALL the informatoin I want close to hand. I just wanted to get things clarified. So, my question is - what is good general practice for getting the best out of DV tapes? Should I run a new tape through the camera (Fforward and then Rewind) before using it, take the tape out of the camera after a shoot, rewinding them after use (however this means having to wind forward to the end of the last shot each time I want to use the tape). Sticking with one brand. Using a new tape for important work. Keeping rewinding etc to a minimum (this conflicts with argument for rewinding the tape after each use). Plus any other useful information etc etc etc etc. Many thanks.

July 1st, 2003, 09:35 AM	#2
Bud Kuenzli Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 197	tape care no science here...just reflecting what I've heard and experienced... Try to stick with one brand. Only shoot in normal speed (don't use long play mode). If you have a deck, run the tape forward and then reverse it if you wish, but I've never seen any real data to back this up as necessary. Might as well black and code it while you do that, but don't bother doing it on your camera since the wear to the heads probably outweighs any benefit to the tape. Don't rewind the tape every time you use it. Leave it where it was until it is filled, then rewind it. Use new tapes, of course. If you're really on a budget you certainly can re-use tapes but I wouldn't do so for any professional work since they are cheap when you are getting paid. I reuse tapes all the time for family things. __________________ on the Internet, when you get where you're going you still don't know where you are

July 2nd, 2003, 12:55 AM	#3
Bob Benkosky Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lake Park, Florida Posts: 202	That's cool However, which are the best tapes for our camera's anyhow??? I've seen some really expensive Sony's with somekind of IC ship in them. They are supposed to be very durable. They are really expensive though. What is the consensus on tape brand on here? My camera arrives Thursday. __________________ http://www.veoh.com/channels/filmmaker My clips and films.

July 2nd, 2003, 04:45 AM	#4
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	The tape cassette memory chip is of value only if your camcorder makes use of it. The XL1 and GL1 do not make use of it, so it may well be a waste of money if you do not have other machines that use it.. I've been satisfied with Panasonic brand tape. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

July 2nd, 2003, 08:42 PM	#6
Jack Robertson Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 125	Re: Tape Care Hi There, I work in the broadcast industry and winding tapes forwards and then rewinding them back is called repacking the tapes. It is necessary to do this if you use one tape in one spot all the time (ie: record on the first 5 minutes and then rerecord on the same spot and play back on the same spot). Repacking loosens the tape to its normal state as it was when first bought. The properway to repack is to rewind all the wat to the head, then fast forward to the end of tape and then rewind back to head again. it is hard to determine when to repack a tape, then only way to really know is whe you get drop outs on the vision. When this happens, the drive system is strugling to transport the tape in the camera as its hard to move due to the tape being hard to turn. Hope this helps. Cheers, Jack

July 2nd, 2003, 08:21 PM	#5
Devin Doyle Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 188	I've always stuck with Sony and have never had any problems. I use the DVM-60's on my GL1 and am always satisfied. I forget if it was mentioned above but store the tapes upright and never flat. Also always take the tapes out whenever not in use. No sense in stretching tape when you don't have to. Good luck with the new cam!

July 9th, 2003, 07:41 AM	#7
Luke Gates Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: new jersey Posts: 151	wow...I didn't know that. I don't think it has an effect on our prosumer GL/sony VX cams. But who, knows...I'm sure you have more experience than I.

July 10th, 2003, 08:22 AM	#8
Jesper Hallen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gothenburg, EU Posts: 35	always store your tapes up-standing, like you store books for example, that's best for the tapes. __________________ - jeha!