JVC gy-dv300 Vs Canon GL2 at DVinfo.net

Patrice Fidole · June 22nd, 2003, 07:20 PM

Hello everyone!

Until not too long ago my mind was set to purchase a GL2 until i checked the streamcorder at B&H a couple days ago..
Now those 2 units have almost the same price ( around $2300)..

I DLed the JVC manual and i did not find anything about a progressive frame recording..could someone if that is possible with the JVC or not?

I tried the Lolux mode and have to say i m impressed.

I did a couple of search on the forum and found some (kinda old) post and would love some feedback now..

Now that streamcorder is as "cheap" as the GL2 what do you recommand?
thx

Patrice.

Frank Granovski · June 22nd, 2003, 10:17 PM

They are both good in different ways. I've read that the DV300 has a "fixed" lens hood. Personally, I lean toward the GL2, even though it has smaller CCDs. How much is a DV500 going for these days? I heard that it got replaced. That is a mighty fine camera.

Bryan Beasleigh · June 23rd, 2003, 01:45 AM

Go back down and have a second look. Which one do you like the feel of? What's your gut feeling?

I've heard good things about both cameras. This is a big decision that really should be made based on your likes and dislikes and not some strangers opinion.

Scott Silverman · June 23rd, 2003, 02:09 AM

I love my GL2. I wouldn't trade it for anything (relatively speaking). Not just the performance that draws me to it. It is the user support, the size, the look, the name, the resale value, the option, and so much more. I love it. Both have their strong points, but I would go with the GL2.

Ben Lynn · June 23rd, 2003, 07:21 AM

Bryan says it right. Go with what you like best. Both camera's are worth the money and you won't go wrong with either. Find out which one gives you the most confidence and feels right to you and go with it.

Ben Lynn

Patrice Fidole · June 23rd, 2003, 07:27 AM

hell everyone!! ;-)

well i guess i m very much "in love" with the GL2.... i do like the size and everything about it.. that s my heart talking now...
somehow the only 2 things i like on the JVC are better low lux and the bigger chips..

i was wondering if there was sombody who actually bought one and has a 4+ month use or more.. The GL2 is already everywhere, ppl talk about it, i can find forums, i see it on MTV :-) etc etc... but not so with the streamcorder who s a great unit..The very few Reviews online found problems i could not duplicate at B&H (obvious stepping of the zoom, or that you could see the diff f: when you change it on the fly for exemple)..

so basically the only thing missing are those streamcorder users that could give me some great everyday use etc.. ;-)

If not..Canon here i come.. ;-)

Thx :-)

Joe Carney · June 23rd, 2003, 12:49 PM

The JVC has more pro features, including cine gamma similar to the DVX100 (but not 24p). From what I've heard from other owners, you can remove the hood, just not the way other cameras do it. It also has better manual controls, which appeals more to experienced pros. It also generates accurate color bars for pro broadcast use. Most miniDV camcorders do not. (Accurate ones that is). Many don't like the plastic exterior, even though it has a magnesium cage surrounding all the vital parts. It has 2 XLR inputs too. Don't know about the GL2. Most rate the JVC video quality superior, but that is very subjective. At current prices it qualifies as a best buy.

And like everyone says, it's what you like most that counts.

Patrice Fidole · June 23rd, 2003, 10:56 PM

yes i believe it is the best buy from what i have seen myself at B&H...

thx all great feedback.

Ken Tanaka · June 23rd, 2003, 11:30 PM

For the record, the GL2 can indeed generate true SMTE color bars.

We've had a recent thread on the JVC that you might be interested in reviewing, Patrice.

Ron Little · June 24th, 2003, 09:19 AM

I have a GL2 and just recently purchased a DVX 100

I gave the GL to my wife to replace her Sony VX2000 she loves the GL.

When I have to tape something in a hurry I grab her GL because it is such a friendly cam. She gets mad and tells my I should have bought another GL2 instead of the DVX.

I tell her that both are great cams and the DVX has features the GL doesn’t have and that is why I bought it trying to justify the purchase.

The truth is the DVX is a great cam but I still like my GL2.

I never used the JVC.

Patrice Fidole · June 24th, 2003, 09:32 AM

thx Ken..trust me i have scanned every thread regarding the streamcorder in this forum :-)..and on the net. I found a couple more reviews online and those were pretty positive really..
the GY d300 was never an issue since it was so over my budget. the PDX 10/ 950 low light high contrast problems really scared me away since i m planning to use that cam in a low light-high contrast situations most of the time ( night clubs, concerts etc..) although their compact size make them very attractive. My next logical move was the GL2 (budgetwise+ features). Now that the JVC is priced like a GL2 i think there is no doubts now and will get that Streamcorder.

Oh well.. maybe i should start a Streamcorder Club in NYC if i don t want to feel alone? ;-)

hehe

Take care.

June 22nd, 2003, 07:20 PM	#1
Patrice Fidole Tourist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York NY Posts: 4	JVC gy-dv300 Vs Canon GL2 Hello everyone! Until not too long ago my mind was set to purchase a GL2 until i checked the streamcorder at B&H a couple days ago.. Now those 2 units have almost the same price ( around $2300).. I DLed the JVC manual and i did not find anything about a progressive frame recording..could someone if that is possible with the JVC or not? I tried the Lolux mode and have to say i m impressed. I did a couple of search on the forum and found some (kinda old) post and would love some feedback now.. Now that streamcorder is as "cheap" as the GL2 what do you recommand? thx Patrice.

June 23rd, 2003, 02:09 AM	#4
Scott Silverman Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cupertino, California, USA Posts: 301	I love my GL2. I wouldn't trade it for anything (relatively speaking). Not just the performance that draws me to it. It is the user support, the size, the look, the name, the resale value, the option, and so much more. I love it. Both have their strong points, but I would go with the GL2. __________________ Scott Silverman Shining Star Digital Video Productions Bay Area, CA

June 23rd, 2003, 11:30 PM	#9
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	For the record, the GL2 can indeed generate true SMTE color bars. We've had a recent thread on the JVC that you might be interested in reviewing, Patrice. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

June 22nd, 2003, 10:17 PM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	They are both good in different ways. I've read that the DV300 has a "fixed" lens hood. Personally, I lean toward the GL2, even though it has smaller CCDs. How much is a DV500 going for these days? I heard that it got replaced. That is a mighty fine camera.

June 23rd, 2003, 01:45 AM	#3
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Go back down and have a second look. Which one do you like the feel of? What's your gut feeling? I've heard good things about both cameras. This is a big decision that really should be made based on your likes and dislikes and not some strangers opinion.

June 23rd, 2003, 07:21 AM	#5
Ben Lynn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 636	Bryan says it right. Go with what you like best. Both camera's are worth the money and you won't go wrong with either. Find out which one gives you the most confidence and feels right to you and go with it. Ben Lynn

June 23rd, 2003, 07:27 AM	#6
Patrice Fidole Tourist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York NY Posts: 4	hell everyone!! ;-) well i guess i m very much "in love" with the GL2.... i do like the size and everything about it.. that s my heart talking now... somehow the only 2 things i like on the JVC are better low lux and the bigger chips.. i was wondering if there was sombody who actually bought one and has a 4+ month use or more.. The GL2 is already everywhere, ppl talk about it, i can find forums, i see it on MTV :-) etc etc... but not so with the streamcorder who s a great unit..The very few Reviews online found problems i could not duplicate at B&H (obvious stepping of the zoom, or that you could see the diff f: when you change it on the fly for exemple).. so basically the only thing missing are those streamcorder users that could give me some great everyday use etc.. ;-) If not..Canon here i come.. ;-) Thx :-)

June 23rd, 2003, 12:49 PM	#7
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	The JVC has more pro features, including cine gamma similar to the DVX100 (but not 24p). From what I've heard from other owners, you can remove the hood, just not the way other cameras do it. It also has better manual controls, which appeals more to experienced pros. It also generates accurate color bars for pro broadcast use. Most miniDV camcorders do not. (Accurate ones that is). Many don't like the plastic exterior, even though it has a magnesium cage surrounding all the vital parts. It has 2 XLR inputs too. Don't know about the GL2. Most rate the JVC video quality superior, but that is very subjective. At current prices it qualifies as a best buy. And like everyone says, it's what you like most that counts.

June 23rd, 2003, 10:56 PM	#8
Patrice Fidole Tourist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York NY Posts: 4	yes i believe it is the best buy from what i have seen myself at B&H... thx all great feedback.

June 24th, 2003, 09:19 AM	#10
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	I have a GL2 and just recently purchased a DVX 100 I gave the GL to my wife to replace her Sony VX2000 she loves the GL. When I have to tape something in a hurry I grab her GL because it is such a friendly cam. She gets mad and tells my I should have bought another GL2 instead of the DVX. I tell her that both are great cams and the DVX has features the GL doesn’t have and that is why I bought it trying to justify the purchase. The truth is the DVX is a great cam but I still like my GL2. I never used the JVC.

June 24th, 2003, 09:32 AM	#11
Patrice Fidole Tourist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York NY Posts: 4	thx Ken..trust me i have scanned every thread regarding the streamcorder in this forum :-)..and on the net. I found a couple more reviews online and those were pretty positive really.. the GY d300 was never an issue since it was so over my budget. the PDX 10/ 950 low light high contrast problems really scared me away since i m planning to use that cam in a low light-high contrast situations most of the time ( night clubs, concerts etc..) although their compact size make them very attractive. My next logical move was the GL2 (budgetwise+ features). Now that the JVC is priced like a GL2 i think there is no doubts now and will get that Streamcorder. Oh well.. maybe i should start a Streamcorder Club in NYC if i don t want to feel alone? ;-) hehe Take care.