Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? at DVinfo.net

Corey Benoit · December 21st, 2011, 12:06 AM

I was trying to play around with the 5D at bestbuy and i tried taking a few pics, it has a black circle all the way around the viewfinder. it looked like vignetting. i played with all the settings since i am familiar with the 7d and have used it for over 2 years.

also i could not get the video mode to come on at all. i wanted to get one but this scared me.

What is wrong with it?

Les Wilson · December 21st, 2011, 05:09 AM

Watch this video. Especially around 3:40

HDSLR | B&H Photo Online Videos | Podcasts

Ken Diewert · December 21st, 2011, 12:51 PM

Thanks for the link Les. I've had my 5d2 for 2 1/2 years, and picked up some good info. I'll have to watch them all when I get the chance.

Corey Benoit · December 22nd, 2011, 04:38 PM

according to the instructor ISO 160 has less noise than 100. is this true?

also these videos didnt explain why the view finder on the 5D had vignetting??

Les Wilson · December 22nd, 2011, 05:22 PM

I have seen differing opinions on the native iso for the 5DM2 and cannot speak authoritatively on that. As far as Vignetting goes, I can't think of a setting that would cause that. My first thoughts would be that it's a flawed lens, incompatible lens for a full sized sensor or a mismounted lens hood. If it's ok in the optical viewfinder but not ok in live view, then it could point to a problem with the body.

Bill Pryor · December 29th, 2011, 06:49 PM

In the early Zacuto tests they determined that 160 ISO was better than 100.

As far as the vignetting of a 5DII at Best Buy, I think it's a safe guess that they had an EF-S lens on the camera instead of a full frame lens.

John Wiley · December 30th, 2011, 02:49 AM

I thought an EF-S lens would not physically mount on the 5dmkII (at least, not in any way that a even a total noob would not realise they were doing something wrong!)? Though it could've been a 3rd party lens designed for APS-C - these lenses from 3rd parties have a regular EF mount even on crop-only lenses.

Bill Pryor · December 30th, 2011, 11:16 AM

No, all the EOS lenses will mount on any Canon EOS camera. You can use an EF-S lens on the 5DII but you will get the vignetting. If it's a zoom lens, you can zoom in far enough to maybe eliminate most of it. Mounts are the same, but the S lenses don't cover the full frame.

When I've been at Best Buy wandering around the camera section, the only L lenses I've seen are locked behind a glass door, and most of the lenses they have are the S variety. Unless they have one of the non-L full frame lenses, like the 28-135, it's very likely that somebody just stuck an S lens on the 5D. I have never talked to anyone at Best Buy who had much product knowledge.

NOTE--editing this to show that I was wrong in saying the Canon EF-S lens can mount on the 5DII. Some lenses like Tokina or Tamron's cropped sensor lenses can mount on the 5D but the Canon brand S lenses have something on the flange that keeps you from trying to use them on the 5D.

Charles Newcomb · December 30th, 2011, 01:24 PM

I have an EFS 55-250 for my 60D that will NOT mount on my 5D. But the 24-105 L I got with the 50D will mount on the 60D.

Bill said: " I have never talked to anyone at Best Buy who had much product knowledge."

I actually had a Best Buy department manager tell me you don't need to worry about white balance with the new digital SLRs.

Brian Rhodes · December 30th, 2011, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey Benoit

I was trying to play around with the 5D at bestbuy and i tried taking a few pics, it has a black circle all the way around the viewfinder. it looked like vignetting. i played with all the settings since i am familiar with the 7d and have used it for over 2 years.

also i could not get the video mode to come on at all. i wanted to get one but this scared me.

What is wrong with it?

The focus screen is missing or misaligned. I had this problem when suction cups failed on a shoot and my 5d dorp to the ground.

Bill Pryor · December 30th, 2011, 02:07 PM

Charles, you're right. I was misinformed. It came from either a Tokina or Tamron lens that was designed for cropped sensor cameras but would mount on the 5D OK. We thought Canon lenses were the same, but further checking after you post showed that the Canon S lenses actually do protrude more. Learn something new every day!

December 21st, 2011, 12:06 AM	#1
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December 21st, 2011, 05:09 AM	#2
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? Watch this video. Especially around 3:40 HDSLR \| B&H Photo Online Videos \| Podcasts

December 21st, 2011, 12:51 PM	#3
Ken Diewert Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 1,200	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? Thanks for the link Les. I've had my 5d2 for 2 1/2 years, and picked up some good info. I'll have to watch them all when I get the chance. __________________ C100, 5DMk2, FCPX

December 22nd, 2011, 04:38 PM	#4
Corey Benoit Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: www.faymusmedia.com Posts: 203	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? according to the instructor ISO 160 has less noise than 100. is this true? also these videos didnt explain why the view finder on the 5D had vignetting?? __________________ www.faymusmedia.com - www.facebook.com/faymusmedia - www.twitter.com/faymusmedia - www.youtube.com/faymusmedia - www.vimeo.com/faymusmedia

December 22nd, 2011, 05:22 PM	#5
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? I have seen differing opinions on the native iso for the 5DM2 and cannot speak authoritatively on that. As far as Vignetting goes, I can't think of a setting that would cause that. My first thoughts would be that it's a flawed lens, incompatible lens for a full sized sensor or a mismounted lens hood. If it's ok in the optical viewfinder but not ok in live view, then it could point to a problem with the body.

December 29th, 2011, 06:49 PM	#6
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? In the early Zacuto tests they determined that 160 ISO was better than 100. As far as the vignetting of a 5DII at Best Buy, I think it's a safe guess that they had an EF-S lens on the camera instead of a full frame lens.

December 30th, 2011, 02:49 AM	#7
John Wiley Trustee Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Byron Bay, Australia Posts: 1,155	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? I thought an EF-S lens would not physically mount on the 5dmkII (at least, not in any way that a even a total noob would not realise they were doing something wrong!)? Though it could've been a 3rd party lens designed for APS-C - these lenses from 3rd parties have a regular EF mount even on crop-only lenses.

December 30th, 2011, 11:16 AM	#8
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? No, all the EOS lenses will mount on any Canon EOS camera. You can use an EF-S lens on the 5DII but you will get the vignetting. If it's a zoom lens, you can zoom in far enough to maybe eliminate most of it. Mounts are the same, but the S lenses don't cover the full frame. When I've been at Best Buy wandering around the camera section, the only L lenses I've seen are locked behind a glass door, and most of the lenses they have are the S variety. Unless they have one of the non-L full frame lenses, like the 28-135, it's very likely that somebody just stuck an S lens on the 5D. I have never talked to anyone at Best Buy who had much product knowledge. NOTE--editing this to show that I was wrong in saying the Canon EF-S lens can mount on the 5DII. Some lenses like Tokina or Tamron's cropped sensor lenses can mount on the 5D but the Canon brand S lenses have something on the flange that keeps you from trying to use them on the 5D. Last edited by Bill Pryor; December 30th, 2011 at 02:09 PM.

December 30th, 2011, 01:24 PM	#9
Charles Newcomb Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salida, Colorado Posts: 561	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? I have an EFS 55-250 for my 60D that will NOT mount on my 5D. But the 24-105 L I got with the 50D will mount on the 60D. Bill said: " I have never talked to anyone at Best Buy who had much product knowledge." I actually had a Best Buy department manager tell me you don't need to worry about white balance with the new digital SLRs.

December 30th, 2011, 02:07 PM	#11
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Re: Testing 5D Mark II Out @ Best Buy There Is Viewfinder issues? Charles, you're right. I was misinformed. It came from either a Tokina or Tamron lens that was designed for cropped sensor cameras but would mount on the 5D OK. We thought Canon lenses were the same, but further checking after you post showed that the Canon S lenses actually do protrude more. Learn something new every day!