Steadying a shaky shot? at DVinfo.net

Josh Fung · March 31st, 2010, 07:08 PM

What software should I be looking at for stabilising a shaky shot in post?
one of my camera guys handheld 5D+70-200 non IS at 200mm for a bride for 10 minutes >.<

Kalulu Ngilo · March 31st, 2010, 07:11 PM

would a monopod have helped?
FCP's smoothcam filter.
I believe media composer has one also.

Charles W. Hull · March 31st, 2010, 07:20 PM

I like Deshaker http://www.guthspot.se/video/deshaker.htm run from Virtualdub. It also compensates for rolling shutter for these kind of shots.

Josh Fung · March 31st, 2010, 07:25 PM

Thanks Charles, Will give it a try.

Yes a monopod would have been a much better solution.

Josh Fung · March 31st, 2010, 07:36 PM

Charles, can virtualdub handle H.264 straight away from 5D or needs converting (if yes to what?)

Charles W. Hull · March 31st, 2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Fung

Charles, can virtualdub handle H.264 straight away from 5D or needs converting (if yes to what?)

Virtualdub runs with AVI. I convert the 5D files to AVI with Cineform, and output Cineform from Virtualdub as well.

Perrone Ford · March 31st, 2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Fung

Charles, can virtualdub handle H.264 straight away from 5D or needs converting (if yes to what?)

I can't remember if my plugin I installed allows for 5D/7D files to drop in or not. Normally, VDub wants AVI files. However, I choose to use Lagarith or HuffYUV. Cineform is lossy (somewhat) and I prefer not to lose quality until I have to.

But Virtualdub is the best tool out there for this if you know what you're doing. I've got tons of examples of things I've done with it, and some of them are online.

Soeren Mueller · April 2nd, 2010, 01:54 AM

Theres a Quicktime Input plugin for Virtualdub that enables it to read Quicktime/MOV files directly (of course Quicktime needs to be installed) .. even from the 5D.. although sometimes you have to fiddle a little bit with the settings for it to work correctly...

Index of Software

(qtvd_* at the bottom)

Perrone Ford · April 2nd, 2010, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Fung

Charles, can virtualdub handle H.264 straight away from 5D or needs converting (if yes to what?)

Yea, that's the plug in I have... but some of those are still flaky.

Soeren Mueller · April 2nd, 2010, 07:31 AM

Yeah unfortunately it's not really out of "beta" stage and not really plug and play all the time... :-/ .. still, if it works it's a time saver over first converting everything (and of course also a bit of a quality saver ;o)

Perrone Ford · April 2nd, 2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Soeren Mueller

still, if it works it's a time saver over first converting everything (and of course also a bit of a quality saver ;o)

Time saver yes. Quality saver, not really.

Soeren Mueller · April 2nd, 2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Perrone Ford

Time saver yes. Quality saver, not really.

Also quality saver, unless you convert to some lossless format... of course Cineform etc. for visual losless.. just nitpicking.

Perrone Ford · April 2nd, 2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Soeren Mueller

Also quality saver, unless you convert to some lossless format... of course Cineform etc. for visual losless.. just nitpicking.

Note my first post in this thread.

David Elkins · April 4th, 2010, 11:55 AM

Just had to chime in with another vote of confidence for Deshaker. I used it on some aerials I shot in Alaska with the 5D and it simply blew my mind as to the results. A bit time consuming with all of the converting to AVI, but absolutely worth it. I actually edited my piece with the unstabilized footage and once I was at picture lock I only converted the clips that made the final cut saving me time and space on the 'ol harddrive.

Perrone has some great info on his experiences with it as well. Search for it here and follow his tips and you'll be set.

March 31st, 2010, 07:08 PM	#1
Josh Fung Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 81	Steadying a shaky shot? What software should I be looking at for stabilising a shaky shot in post? one of my camera guys handheld 5D+70-200 non IS at 200mm for a bride for 10 minutes >.<

March 31st, 2010, 07:11 PM	#2
Kalulu Ngilo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 112	would a monopod have helped? FCP's smoothcam filter. I believe media composer has one also. __________________ dcrin3.com we don't know alot of genres, at least as of now.

April 4th, 2010, 11:55 AM	#14
David Elkins Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 147	Just had to chime in with another vote of confidence for Deshaker. I used it on some aerials I shot in Alaska with the 5D and it simply blew my mind as to the results. A bit time consuming with all of the converting to AVI, but absolutely worth it. I actually edited my piece with the unstabilized footage and once I was at picture lock I only converted the clips that made the final cut saving me time and space on the 'ol harddrive. Perrone has some great info on his experiences with it as well. Search for it here and follow his tips and you'll be set. __________________ www.elkinseye.com

March 31st, 2010, 07:20 PM	#3
Charles W. Hull Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canyon Country, CA Posts: 445	I like Deshaker http://www.guthspot.se/video/deshaker.htm run from Virtualdub. It also compensates for rolling shutter for these kind of shots.

March 31st, 2010, 07:25 PM	#4
Josh Fung Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 81	Thanks Charles, Will give it a try. Yes a monopod would have been a much better solution.

March 31st, 2010, 07:36 PM	#5
Josh Fung Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 81	Charles, can virtualdub handle H.264 straight away from 5D or needs converting (if yes to what?)

April 2nd, 2010, 01:54 AM	#8
Soeren Mueller Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany / Denver, CO Posts: 137	Theres a Quicktime Input plugin for Virtualdub that enables it to read Quicktime/MOV files directly (of course Quicktime needs to be installed) .. even from the 5D.. although sometimes you have to fiddle a little bit with the settings for it to work correctly... Index of Software (qtvd_* at the bottom)

April 2nd, 2010, 07:31 AM	#10
Soeren Mueller Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany / Denver, CO Posts: 137	Yeah unfortunately it's not really out of "beta" stage and not really plug and play all the time... :-/ .. still, if it works it's a time saver over first converting everything (and of course also a bit of a quality saver ;o)