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Tomeu Santandreu · March 19th, 2010, 07:24 AM

Hi guys!

Im looking for a good external stereo directional mic. I know that external recorders are the best option but Im looking for something easier, thats an external mic. I want to record ambient sound (nature, seawaves, etc)

Now that AGC can be desactivated maybe there are some good mics that can be used. I don't want IS noise or noise when using slider to be recorded.

Any solution to achieve that?

Thanks.

Tomeu

David J. Morgan · March 19th, 2010, 08:17 PM

www.rode.com.au

Jon Goodman · March 20th, 2010, 07:58 AM

In the past I've used the Rode NT4 and have been happy with it. It's a fairly inexpensive xy stereo mic.

Scott Bellefeuille · March 20th, 2010, 09:18 AM

Are you looking for a hotshoe mounted solution? If so the Rode Stereo Video Mic is pretty highly regarded in it's price range. Here is a B&H overview of several mics including the Rode SVM ( http://tiny.cc/yyquE ).

I've got a Rode SVM that I am selling because I'm doing most of my stereo stuff externally on the Zoom H4N so the Rode isn't getting much use. The mic is in excellent like new condition. PM me if you're interested.

Scott

Tomeu Santandreu · March 22nd, 2010, 02:05 AM

Tahnks for the responses!

One question: Rode SVM or NTG-1 for outdoors?

Tahnks again.

Tomeu

Scott Bellefeuille · March 22nd, 2010, 01:19 PM

"One question: Rode SVM or NTG-1 for outdoors?"

It really depends on what you're shooting. The NTG-1 is a directional shotgun mic and hence would be better for shooting dialog outdoors. The SVM is a stereo mic that will be less directional but will pick up more of the surroundings and ambient sound. Kind of like the difference between using a telephoto or a wide angle lens. Unfortunately there's no one mic that does it all or fits all shooting purposes. Plan to eventually end up with several mics in your kit.

Cheers,

Scott

Tomeu Santandreu · March 23rd, 2010, 01:15 AM

Well answered.

Thanks Scott.

Tomeu

Scott Bellefeuille · March 23rd, 2010, 09:13 AM

Tomeu,

If you're looking for more information and samples of what the different mics and combinations sound like check out the audio thread here at DV Info Net. You'll find a series of tests at the top of that thread that Jon Fairhurst did that give you a good overview of 5D audio.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...-complete.html

Scott

Chris Hurd · March 23rd, 2010, 04:48 PM

Hi Scott, I've edited your post in order to change your link to the exact same series of John Fairhurst audio tests which live here on DV Info Net. I understand that you're new here, but as a general rule, we always want to point folks to resources which already exist on this site instead of sending them away somewhere else. Thanks for understanding.

Scott Bellefeuille · March 23rd, 2010, 05:34 PM

Thanks Chris. I wasn't aware Jon's series was on this site also. I definitely need to spend some more time digging around the forum here!

Pedanes Bol · March 23rd, 2010, 07:49 PM

I use a Audio-Technica AT825 Stereo microphone and Beyerdynamic MVK72-K3 stereo XLR to mini cable on my 7D with very good results. AT825 is now discontinued but you may consider the new model AT8022. This microphone and the cable are available at B&H. Another relatively inexpensive stereo microphone to consider is Sony ECM-MS957.

Beyerdynamic MVK72-K3

at8022

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/150435-REG/Sony_ECMMS957_ECM_MS957_Stereo_Condenser.html
Hope this helps.

Tomeu Santandreu · March 24th, 2010, 05:59 AM

I'll take alook to that samples.

Tomeu

March 19th, 2010, 07:24 AM	#1
Tomeu Santandreu Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 26	firmware 2.0.3 and external stereo directional mics Hi guys! Im looking for a good external stereo directional mic. I know that external recorders are the best option but Im looking for something easier, thats an external mic. I want to record ambient sound (nature, seawaves, etc) Now that AGC can be desactivated maybe there are some good mics that can be used. I don't want IS noise or noise when using slider to be recorded. Any solution to achieve that? Thanks. Tomeu

March 20th, 2010, 09:18 AM	#4
Scott Bellefeuille Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Prague, CZ and Phoenix, AZ Posts: 79	Rode Stereo Video Mic? Are you looking for a hotshoe mounted solution? If so the Rode Stereo Video Mic is pretty highly regarded in it's price range. Here is a B&H overview of several mics including the Rode SVM ( http://tiny.cc/yyquE ). I've got a Rode SVM that I am selling because I'm doing most of my stereo stuff externally on the Zoom H4N so the Rode isn't getting much use. The mic is in excellent like new condition. PM me if you're interested. Scott

March 22nd, 2010, 01:19 PM	#6
Scott Bellefeuille Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Prague, CZ and Phoenix, AZ Posts: 79	Depends "One question: Rode SVM or NTG-1 for outdoors?" It really depends on what you're shooting. The NTG-1 is a directional shotgun mic and hence would be better for shooting dialog outdoors. The SVM is a stereo mic that will be less directional but will pick up more of the surroundings and ambient sound. Kind of like the difference between using a telephoto or a wide angle lens. Unfortunately there's no one mic that does it all or fits all shooting purposes. Plan to eventually end up with several mics in your kit. Cheers, Scott

March 23rd, 2010, 09:13 AM	#8
Scott Bellefeuille Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Prague, CZ and Phoenix, AZ Posts: 79	More Info Tomeu, If you're looking for more information and samples of what the different mics and combinations sound like check out the audio thread here at DV Info Net. You'll find a series of tests at the top of that thread that Jon Fairhurst did that give you a good overview of 5D audio. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...-complete.html Scott

March 23rd, 2010, 04:48 PM	#9
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Hi Scott, I've edited your post in order to change your link to the exact same series of John Fairhurst audio tests which live here on DV Info Net. I understand that you're new here, but as a general rule, we always want to point folks to resources which already exist on this site instead of sending them away somewhere else. Thanks for understanding. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 19th, 2010, 08:17 PM	#2
David J. Morgan Tourist Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Gold Coast Queensland Australia Posts: 1	www.rode.com.au

March 20th, 2010, 07:58 AM	#3
Jon Goodman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 74	In the past I've used the Rode NT4 and have been happy with it. It's a fairly inexpensive xy stereo mic.

March 22nd, 2010, 02:05 AM	#5
Tomeu Santandreu Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 26	Tahnks for the responses! One question: Rode SVM or NTG-1 for outdoors? Tahnks again. Tomeu

March 23rd, 2010, 01:15 AM	#7
Tomeu Santandreu Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 26	Well answered. Thanks Scott. Tomeu

March 23rd, 2010, 05:34 PM	#10
Scott Bellefeuille Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Prague, CZ and Phoenix, AZ Posts: 79	Thanks Chris. I wasn't aware Jon's series was on this site also. I definitely need to spend some more time digging around the forum here!

March 23rd, 2010, 07:49 PM	#11
Pedanes Bol Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Boston MA Posts: 167	Audio-Technica I use a Audio-Technica AT825 Stereo microphone and Beyerdynamic MVK72-K3 stereo XLR to mini cable on my 7D with very good results. AT825 is now discontinued but you may consider the new model AT8022. This microphone and the cable are available at B&H. Another relatively inexpensive stereo microphone to consider is Sony ECM-MS957. Beyerdynamic MVK72-K3 at8022 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/150435-REG/Sony_ECMMS957_ECM_MS957_Stereo_Condenser.html Hope this helps.

March 24th, 2010, 05:59 AM	#12
Tomeu Santandreu Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 26	I'll take alook to that samples. Tomeu