1d IV vs 5dII for video at DVinfo.net

Denny Kyser · March 6th, 2010, 03:23 PM

I have the 1d iv and just started playing with the video and so far am loving it.
I may get rid of my Sony EX1r, and go wtih the HMC150 and either a second 1D IV or a 5D II as another video camera.

My main income is from photography, so having a dslr that can do both is huge. I was thinking 5D II but I notice the controls are quite different, and on a wedding day, like things being as consistant as possible.

Jon Fairhurst · March 6th, 2010, 05:04 PM

The only advantages for the 5D2 over the 1D4 are price and the wider view. Soon, the 5D2 will have the additional advantages of manual audio gain, live histogram and whatever surprises they might include in the next firmware.

The big advantages of the 1D4 are low noise and 720p60 for slow motion. The win with low noise is that you can either open the lens and dial down the ISO for a shallow DOF look, or you can get deep focus with a small aperture and up to 6400 ISO. The 5D2 goes up to 1250 cleanly, but I don't advise going higher. Those two stops can come in handy.

One nice thing for event shooters with the 5D2 will be Tv mode. In general we set the shutter time to half of the frame time (1/60 for 30 fps) for smooth motion. Being able to simply set to 1/60 (or 1/50 for 24 fps) and letting the camera do the rest will be very quick. Just hit the AE Lock button to lock it in.

But if you are happy with your wide FOV, don't need in-camera audio, shoot in low light, and have the cash the 1D will do the trick.

Denny Kyser · March 7th, 2010, 12:02 PM

Thanks Jon

The biggest thing for me is that photography is what I do for a living, video is what I like to play with and lets me offer some things others in my field can not do.

I would not even consider photographing a wedding with out a 1D body, the dual card slots is priceless.

So if I do not give up anything video wise, will go this route, if I feel I am lacking the wide angle even with a 14-35 L lens, could pick up a 5D II later.

I feel that they will continue to improve the ID IV firmware as well since this is Canons newest baby.

Jon Fairhurst · March 7th, 2010, 01:52 PM

There are rumors of an upcoming 1Ds Mark IV. I can't wait to see what features we get in that.

March 6th, 2010, 03:23 PM	#1
Denny Kyser Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Warren, Pa Posts: 785	1d IV vs 5dII for video I have the 1d iv and just started playing with the video and so far am loving it. I may get rid of my Sony EX1r, and go wtih the HMC150 and either a second 1D IV or a 5D II as another video camera. My main income is from photography, so having a dslr that can do both is huge. I was thinking 5D II but I notice the controls are quite different, and on a wedding day, like things being as consistant as possible. __________________ 2 Canon XF305's Kyser Photography www.kyserphoto.com

March 6th, 2010, 05:04 PM	#2
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	The only advantages for the 5D2 over the 1D4 are price and the wider view. Soon, the 5D2 will have the additional advantages of manual audio gain, live histogram and whatever surprises they might include in the next firmware. The big advantages of the 1D4 are low noise and 720p60 for slow motion. The win with low noise is that you can either open the lens and dial down the ISO for a shallow DOF look, or you can get deep focus with a small aperture and up to 6400 ISO. The 5D2 goes up to 1250 cleanly, but I don't advise going higher. Those two stops can come in handy. One nice thing for event shooters with the 5D2 will be Tv mode. In general we set the shutter time to half of the frame time (1/60 for 30 fps) for smooth motion. Being able to simply set to 1/60 (or 1/50 for 24 fps) and letting the camera do the rest will be very quick. Just hit the AE Lock button to lock it in. But if you are happy with your wide FOV, don't need in-camera audio, shoot in low light, and have the cash the 1D will do the trick. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

March 7th, 2010, 12:02 PM	#3
Denny Kyser Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Warren, Pa Posts: 785	Thanks Jon The biggest thing for me is that photography is what I do for a living, video is what I like to play with and lets me offer some things others in my field can not do. I would not even consider photographing a wedding with out a 1D body, the dual card slots is priceless. So if I do not give up anything video wise, will go this route, if I feel I am lacking the wide angle even with a 14-35 L lens, could pick up a 5D II later. I feel that they will continue to improve the ID IV firmware as well since this is Canons newest baby. __________________ 2 Canon XF305's Kyser Photography www.kyserphoto.com

March 7th, 2010, 01:52 PM	#4
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	There are rumors of an upcoming 1Ds Mark IV. I can't wait to see what features we get in that. __________________ Jon Fairhurst