I finally found "THE" DSLR rig for me!

Erik Andersen · February 3rd, 2010, 09:18 AM

Here's Dennis Wood of Cinevate's video university segment on the Uno:

Dennis Wood · February 3rd, 2010, 01:59 PM

Jeeps Glenn, what a great review. We know that Uno is not for everyone, but it's very gratifying to see the response to the rig here. Erik, thanks for posting the clip...I had no idea dvinfo was set up for this. Just a few points to add:

1. We sell the Uno and DLSR grips alone so you can purchase an UNO with two grips.

2. The Uno can be ordered with a single base plate support, or two. We suggest two like you're using in this review. I should mention too that we have a new base plate in the works which will provide quick release functionality for 3 common sizes of plates, still allow sliding, but also release straight upwards. So basically the quick-release system Glenn added will be integrated into our Proteus base system.

3. When Uno is used with our Durus Follow Focus, the follow focus itself is the third point of contact. It's designed to take (and we've demonstrated) 35lb pound hanging loads. Matt Jeppsen aludes to this in his Durus review at FreshDV.

Cheers,
Dennis Wood
www.cinevate.com

Sean Seah · February 3rd, 2010, 08:45 PM

thaz a great video Dennis! The only thing to figure out is how to allow event shooters to trigger the start/stop button with this config.

Dan Chung · February 4th, 2010, 12:58 AM

Dennis,

The use of the single rail mount of the Durus with the Uno does look handy for sure.

Sean,

I have the solution to your trigger problem, Its a hack for a regular remote and I had it made at Sim Lim Square when I was over last year. Drop me a PM and I'll get you the info.

Dan

Cody Dulock · February 4th, 2010, 09:39 AM

When I got my hands on the UNO at IN[FOCUS] I wasn't very impressed with the way the ball joints slipped for the hand grip (even when I tried cranking down on the screw). Typically, shooters hold the grip with there right hand or both hands on their right shoulder. I tried adjusting the ball joint so the grip would be in a comfortable position and it would slip after tightening. I applaud you for being able to hold the grip with your left hand, have the stock pressed against your right shoulder, and pull focus with your right hand. I'm so used to shooting with video cameras that have everything geared toward using your right hand as the stabilizer (ENG cams you put your hand on the zoom controls on the lens, usually all of the weight is geared toward the right shoulder, etc...).

Norm Rehm · February 4th, 2010, 11:25 AM

Dan, Would you please give more information about the hack you had done to your remote?

Thanks Norm

Dennis Wood · February 4th, 2010, 04:50 PM

Cody, we did several months of testing specifically related to the ball material, clamping force and stability. There is a wide variation in grip possible depending on how much clamp force is used. We did this because we know some will want to be able to dynamically adjust, while others will want the links "locked" down. One thing that is important to note is that as the clamp system is tightened, the clamps bed into the ball material. This is by design so that the longer a joint is left into the position (particularly if tightened properly), the better the grip. Upon release, the ball surface deformation recovers quickly to ensure full adjustability. They do work.

Glen Elliott · February 5th, 2010, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody Dulock

When I got my hands on the UNO at IN[FOCUS] I wasn't very impressed with the way the ball joints slipped for the hand grip (even when I tried cranking down on the screw). Typically, shooters hold the grip with there right hand or both hands on their right shoulder. I tried adjusting the ball joint so the grip would be in a comfortable position and it would slip after tightening. I applaud you for being able to hold the grip with your left hand, have the stock pressed against your right shoulder, and pull focus with your right hand. I'm so used to shooting with video cameras that have everything geared toward using your right hand as the stabilizer (ENG cams you put your hand on the zoom controls on the lens, usually all of the weight is geared toward the right shoulder, etc...).

I haven't had any issues with slippage in the handle what-so-ever. If I did, I would be very dissapointed. The kip handles on the Cinevate gear seem to have quite extraordinary gripping power, meanwhile I had nothing but problems with my Red Rock handles constantly slipping. I found this to be less of an issue if I used a tool to tighten but then I couldn't hand loosen it if I needed to adjust anything.

The rig you handled at InFocus may have been damaged or worn. I own the rig and haven't had a single problem in that area- and I'm quite sensitive to this kind of stuff due to my previous experience with RR.

Steve Towle · February 8th, 2010, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Chung

Glen,

The single rail design is nothing new though. It's the way I've had my Redrock rigged for a while now. In fact the Uno looks very similar in concept to my modified Redrock rig.

Dan

Dan, can you share pictures of how you have your RR gear configured? Thanks.

Steve

Brandon Paschal · February 25th, 2010, 12:47 PM

I am on the fence between the Uno and the Zacuto Rapid Fire. I love my Cinevate gear, but am interested in this debate between actually handling the body (Zacuto Rapid Fire) vs handling the rig (Cinevate Uno). Can anyone expand on this?

Secondly, I'm curious as to whether or not anyone has considered the use of audio on either of these rigs. I know these products are for more run n' gun style shooting, but if indeed there was a brief need for a shotgun or lav mic connected, my assumption is the uno might be more flexible for this?

Thoughts?

Cody Dulock · February 25th, 2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Towle

Dan, can you share pictures of how you have your RR gear configured? Thanks.

Steve

I have also configured a hybrid one rail system with the redrock theEvent... it's pretty slick! When I get time I will post some pictures. It's very compact, small, and light weight!

Scott Bellefeuille · April 3rd, 2010, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Wood

2. The Uno can be ordered with a single base plate support, or two. We suggest two like you're using in this review. I should mention too that we have a new base plate in the works which will provide quick release functionality for 3 common sizes of plates, still allow sliding, but also release straight upwards. So basically the quick-release system Glenn added will be integrated into our Proteus base system.

Dennis has this new base plate with multiple quick release plate possibilities come out yet?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Wood

3. When Uno is used with our Durus Follow Focus, the follow focus itself is the third point of contact. It's designed to take (and we've demonstrated) 35lb pound hanging loads. Matt Jeppsen aludes to this in his Durus review at FreshDV.

When focusing with just your hand on the lens you can support from the bottom of the lens and focus. Will the Durus act as a third point of contact that can actually support in addition to just stabilizing (hope that makes sense)?

Also do you guys have any examples or images of Uno with additional things mounted to it such as a Zoom or other small recorder or Wireless Lav receiver, etc.?

I'm leaning towards getting the uno but am just trying to imagine how it's going to work for me in the real world.

Thanks,

Scott

Dennis Wood · May 2nd, 2010, 12:37 AM

Scott, the Durus would serve as the third point of contact when in use and is built to take this load with no issues.

With regard to the quick release system, we debuted that at NAB2010. As promised, it allows 3 different plates to be used and allows upward ejection of all three while retaining sliding adjustment too. We're expecting full integration to the entire product line in about two weeks.

Cheers,
Dennis Wood
www.cinevate.com

February 3rd, 2010, 09:18 AM	#16
Erik Andersen Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 218	Here's Dennis Wood of Cinevate's video university segment on the Uno: Uno DSLR Rig - Video University on Vimeo __________________ Canon 5D Mark II \|\| L-Series Lenses \|\| Steadicam Pilot \|\| Final Cut Studio www.lovestorymedia.com

February 25th, 2010, 12:47 PM	#25
Brandon Paschal Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 77	Zacuto Rapid fire or Uno ... audio? I am on the fence between the Uno and the Zacuto Rapid Fire. I love my Cinevate gear, but am interested in this debate between actually handling the body (Zacuto Rapid Fire) vs handling the rig (Cinevate Uno). Can anyone expand on this? Secondly, I'm curious as to whether or not anyone has considered the use of audio on either of these rigs. I know these products are for more run n' gun style shooting, but if indeed there was a brief need for a shotgun or lav mic connected, my assumption is the uno might be more flexible for this? Thoughts? __________________ p-films.com. Canon T2i f2.8 17-55, f1.4 50mm, Cool Lights LEDs

February 3rd, 2010, 01:59 PM	#17
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Jeeps Glenn, what a great review. We know that Uno is not for everyone, but it's very gratifying to see the response to the rig here. Erik, thanks for posting the clip...I had no idea dvinfo was set up for this. Just a few points to add: 1. We sell the Uno and DLSR grips alone so you can purchase an UNO with two grips. 2. The Uno can be ordered with a single base plate support, or two. We suggest two like you're using in this review. I should mention too that we have a new base plate in the works which will provide quick release functionality for 3 common sizes of plates, still allow sliding, but also release straight upwards. So basically the quick-release system Glenn added will be integrated into our Proteus base system. 3. When Uno is used with our Durus Follow Focus, the follow focus itself is the third point of contact. It's designed to take (and we've demonstrated) 35lb pound hanging loads. Matt Jeppsen aludes to this in his Durus review at FreshDV. Cheers, Dennis Wood www.cinevate.com

February 3rd, 2010, 08:45 PM	#18
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	thaz a great video Dennis! The only thing to figure out is how to allow event shooters to trigger the start/stop button with this config.

February 4th, 2010, 12:58 AM	#19
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	Dennis, The use of the single rail mount of the Durus with the Uno does look handy for sure. Sean, I have the solution to your trigger problem, Its a hack for a regular remote and I had it made at Sim Lim Square when I was over last year. Drop me a PM and I'll get you the info. Dan

February 4th, 2010, 09:39 AM	#20
Cody Dulock Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: arlington, texas Posts: 420	When I got my hands on the UNO at IN[FOCUS] I wasn't very impressed with the way the ball joints slipped for the hand grip (even when I tried cranking down on the screw). Typically, shooters hold the grip with there right hand or both hands on their right shoulder. I tried adjusting the ball joint so the grip would be in a comfortable position and it would slip after tightening. I applaud you for being able to hold the grip with your left hand, have the stock pressed against your right shoulder, and pull focus with your right hand. I'm so used to shooting with video cameras that have everything geared toward using your right hand as the stabilizer (ENG cams you put your hand on the zoom controls on the lens, usually all of the weight is geared toward the right shoulder, etc...).

February 4th, 2010, 11:25 AM	#21
Norm Rehm Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Keizer, OR Posts: 66	Dan, Would you please give more information about the hack you had done to your remote? Thanks Norm

February 4th, 2010, 04:50 PM	#22
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Cody, we did several months of testing specifically related to the ball material, clamping force and stability. There is a wide variation in grip possible depending on how much clamp force is used. We did this because we know some will want to be able to dynamically adjust, while others will want the links "locked" down. One thing that is important to note is that as the clamp system is tightened, the clamps bed into the ball material. This is by design so that the longer a joint is left into the position (particularly if tightened properly), the better the grip. Upon release, the ball surface deformation recovers quickly to ensure full adjustability. They do work.

May 2nd, 2010, 12:37 AM	#28
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Scott, the Durus would serve as the third point of contact when in use and is built to take this load with no issues. With regard to the quick release system, we debuted that at NAB2010. As promised, it allows 3 different plates to be used and allows upward ejection of all three while retaining sliding adjustment too. We're expecting full integration to the entire product line in about two weeks. Cheers, Dennis Wood www.cinevate.com