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Old January 15th, 2010, 06:07 AM   #1
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Price drop on the 5d

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I have noticed that the 5d has been dropped in price meaning that there is about a £400 in difference now between the 7D and the 5D..

I was planning on getting the 7D but now that it's just a £400 difference in price.. Do you think it's worth going for the 5D now??
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Old January 15th, 2010, 06:33 AM   #2
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I have both and prefer the 5D2.

Others will have different views on this obviously, depending on what features they need in a camera.

Ultimately, you must weigh up for yourself the pros and cons of each camera based on which features you like/need and which you don't.


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Old January 15th, 2010, 07:04 AM   #3
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Hmm yeah..

think am gonna save my money get a second hand 7D and splash out on good lenses :)
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Old January 16th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #4
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Where's the price drops in the US? :-)
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Old January 16th, 2010, 11:57 PM   #5
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At B&H:

Canon | EOS 5D Mark II Digital Camera (Camera Body) | 2764B003

Here's a great link for tracking availability of the 5D and accessories:

Canon 5D Mark II In Stock Tracker - NowInStock.net

Seems Nikon is bringing out and HDSLR soon, and Canon wants more people to get on board before that happens.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 08:49 AM   #6
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Yeah, Nikon has been stuck in the 720p range for the DSLR with video, but word is they are about to release a 1080p model, so I can understand Canon wanting to scope up as many videographers before that happens.
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Old January 17th, 2010, 01:24 PM   #7
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Yes, I'm looking forward to trying out the new Nikon. News is that it has full HD, although some rumours are that it will be 720p like the D3s. I'm more interested in that it will offer faster AF control during video and more manual override plus decent sound recording options etc..
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Old January 17th, 2010, 02:28 PM   #8
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The question for me isn't so much about 1080p vs. 720p. It's about the codec, and to some degree about rolling shutter. Even at 720p, the rolling shutter has been worse than Canon's. But the codec is the area where Canon really wins the game, IMHO.

If Nikon produces 1080p with lots of jello and M-JPEG, the camera still won't be able to compete on the video side. Hopefully, they'll push the market forward...
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Old January 18th, 2010, 05:37 PM   #9
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The question for me isn't so much about 1080p vs. 720p.
I'm with Jon, Varicams are 720p and I've never heard anyone complain about picture quality. I'd take clean 720p over crummy 1080p any day. And btw, 720p is every bit, in every sense, "True HD".
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Old January 18th, 2010, 06:38 PM   #10
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Funny this thread popped up as a friend with the 300s has been discussing with me dumping his Nikon gear and going Canon. He shoots both stills and video. When's Nikon supposed to have a competitor to the 5D out?
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Old January 19th, 2010, 04:29 PM   #11
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Nikon will be launching more new models soon, Robert.
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Old January 19th, 2010, 04:43 PM   #12
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I'm with Jon, Varicams are 720p and I've never heard anyone complain about picture quality. I'd take clean 720p over crummy 1080p any day. And btw, 720p is every bit, in every sense, "True HD".
Yeah, but is it "Full HD"? LOL.

Don't get me wrong, personally I'd love to be able to shoot 720p24, 720p30, and 720p60 on my 5D2. If I could, I'd probably never use 1080p given that I only distribute to the web, and 720p is ideal for HD on the web in my opinion. I think it's flat out stupid that Canon didn't put a 720p24 and/or 720p30 mode on the 7D, and given that, I'm not expecting it on the 5D2 either. But, I'll be happy with 1080p24, so maybe I should shut up now.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 09:35 AM   #13
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I was planning on getting the 7D but now that it's just a £400 difference in price.. Do you think it's worth going for the 5D now??
I certainly think it is, but then I'm primarily a still photographer. Having a full frame sensor is tremendously important to me.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 11:41 AM   #14
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Don't get me wrong, personally I'd love to be able to shoot 720p24, 720p30, and 720p60 on my 5D2. If I could, I'd probably never use 1080p given that I only distribute to the web, and 720p is ideal for HD on the web in my opinion.
Well, expect the software update to address that shortly, though if it's like the 7D, aliasing will be worse in 720p on the 5D2 than on the 1080p. Unless you need the 60p, it's probably better to shoot in 1080 and scale down to 720 in your NLE, than have the camera do it.
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Old January 21st, 2010, 05:20 PM   #15
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Hi,

I have noticed that the 5d has been dropped in price meaning that there is about a £400 in difference now between the 7D and the 5D..

I was planning on getting the 7D but now that it's just a £400 difference in price.. Do you think it's worth going for the 5D now??
Hi Lee, I sold my 5DmkII and replaced it with a 7D due to the 25p issue. When the 5DmkII gets the firmware update I'll be very tempted to switch back. The 7D is a great camera, but I really really miss using my primes with a FF camera. If you do a lot of photography on the side, I'd strongly recommend the 5DmkII, especially if you enjoy shooting with manual focus primes.

For video, the 7D is a little more user friendly with the additional buttons, but I still (personally) don't like the crop factor.
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