Genus vs vocas MB250 matte box at DVinfo.net

Carlos Padilla · December 9th, 2009, 11:01 AM

I like how compact and light is the genus, and like the eyebrows and the overall construction of the vocas. What do you think guys?
help me to choose
The Vocas cost a little more but can buy it in my contry. Genus with shipping cost are almost the same price as vocas.

Genus Matte Box
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Mitchell Lewis · December 9th, 2009, 11:13 AM

Sorry, not an answer but....

How do you plan to "seal" the matte box to the various lenses on your camera? You don't want a big light gap between the hole in the matte box and your lens.

I'm looking at the Zacuto Universal Donut, but there maybe be even better solutions.

Carlos Padilla · December 9th, 2009, 01:44 PM

Both come with some donuts or if you want, Genus make another universal donut. Cheap thant the zacuto one
Genus Universal Donut Nun's Knickers

Mitchell Lewis · December 9th, 2009, 01:52 PM

Great find! Thanks!

Dan Chung · December 9th, 2009, 09:35 PM

I'm a Genus fan through and through now so you may want to find someone with a more impartial view, however what I can say is that I love the Genus Mattebox mainly because it will allow me to get to 17mm with no vignette in movie mode. If you plan to use wide angles I would check what the Vocas can do.

There is a guy here on a shoot with me who is using the Vocas so maybe ping me a private message and I can send his email to you, he's played with both so may give you both sides.

Dan

Peer Landa · December 10th, 2009, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Chung

I love the Genus Mattebox mainly because it will allow me to get to 17mm with no vignette in movie mode. If you plan to use wide angles I would check what the Vocas can do.

I got a Century Mattebox -- which is very nice -- but initially I had some serious vignetting when getting down to 17mm, so I trimmed it with a Dremel tool (opened it up enough for my 17-35mm lens). This silly video shows the mattbox with a mounted 70-200mm:

-- peer

Carlos Padilla · December 10th, 2009, 07:06 AM

I had a Redrock Mb and was too heavy for my needs. I think the century is the same as vocas, I like the eye-brows but the Genus seems a good option for dslr work

Takeshi Fukushima · February 6th, 2010, 12:41 AM

Dan,

Yeah, I even saw you on Genus's page!
17mm was OK? that's really great! Is that with both filters in?!
I assume from what you say, 16mm WILL vignette?
It does look like genus has a solid product.

Thanks for the info,
Takeshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Chung

I'm a Genus fan through and through now so you may want to find someone with a more impartial view, however what I can say is that I love the Genus Mattebox mainly because it will allow me to get to 17mm with no vignette in movie mode. If you plan to use wide angles I would check what the Vocas can do.

There is a guy here on a shoot with me who is using the Vocas so maybe ping me a private message and I can send his email to you, he's played with both so may give you both sides.

Dan

Carlos Padilla · February 6th, 2010, 08:24 PM

Finally I bought one Genus MB. It's a really nice MB, light and well constructed but have two things that I don't like. One is the blue filter tray. Some people find that can add some reflections. I hadn't this problem so far but in my sunny country I'll find it if it exists.
The second is that I think it have too much room beetwen filters and this can also be a problem. Anyway, I like it.
I worked some days with the vocas 250MB and I think in general is better but not tried it with wide lenses.

December 9th, 2009, 11:01 AM	#1
Carlos Padilla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 33	Genus vs vocas MB250 matte box I like how compact and light is the genus, and like the eyebrows and the overall construction of the vocas. What do you think guys? help me to choose The Vocas cost a little more but can buy it in my contry. Genus with shipping cost are almost the same price as vocas. Genus Matte Box VOCAS SYSTEMS BV

December 9th, 2009, 11:13 AM	#2
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Sorry, not an answer but.... How do you plan to "seal" the matte box to the various lenses on your camera? You don't want a big light gap between the hole in the matte box and your lens. I'm looking at the Zacuto Universal Donut, but there maybe be even better solutions. __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

December 9th, 2009, 01:52 PM	#4
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Great find! Thanks! __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

December 9th, 2009, 01:44 PM	#3
Carlos Padilla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 33	Both come with some donuts or if you want, Genus make another universal donut. Cheap thant the zacuto one Genus Universal Donut Nun's Knickers

December 9th, 2009, 09:35 PM	#5
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	I'm a Genus fan through and through now so you may want to find someone with a more impartial view, however what I can say is that I love the Genus Mattebox mainly because it will allow me to get to 17mm with no vignette in movie mode. If you plan to use wide angles I would check what the Vocas can do. There is a guy here on a shoot with me who is using the Vocas so maybe ping me a private message and I can send his email to you, he's played with both so may give you both sides. Dan

December 10th, 2009, 07:06 AM	#7
Carlos Padilla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 33	I had a Redrock Mb and was too heavy for my needs. I think the century is the same as vocas, I like the eye-brows but the Genus seems a good option for dslr work

February 6th, 2010, 08:24 PM	#9
Carlos Padilla Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 33	Finally I bought one Genus MB. It's a really nice MB, light and well constructed but have two things that I don't like. One is the blue filter tray. Some people find that can add some reflections. I hadn't this problem so far but in my sunny country I'll find it if it exists. The second is that I think it have too much room beetwen filters and this can also be a problem. Anyway, I like it. I worked some days with the vocas 250MB and I think in general is better but not tried it with wide lenses.