Fader ND Question at DVinfo.net

George Chinn · November 16th, 2009, 05:55 AM

Hello,

I am fairly new to the the world of 5D, and as a such I am still putting together a basic kit. One part of this kit is the Fader ND (Ebay one). I currently have the 24 - 105 F4 L (77mm filter thread) kit lens and a non L 50mm 1.8 (52mm filter thread). I want to buy a size of filter that is going to be able to be used on my current and all future lenses. My questions are as follows:

1) Are there many lenses that take the largest filter thread of 82mm?

2) Would I be able to use step down rings to accommodate the 77mm filter down to the 52mm of the 50mm 1.8 lens?

3) If I can use step down rings, is there any optical loss?

4) Are there any particular make of step down rings that people have used and are pleased with?

Many Thanks in advance,

George

George Chinn · November 17th, 2009, 08:08 AM

Does anyone have the ebay fader ND, and are they happy with it?

Richard Gooderick · November 17th, 2009, 10:02 AM

I too have got the 5D with the 24-105 lens, and some old Nikon primes.
So, same problem.
I bought two Fader NDs because I couldn't be bothered with stepdown rings and the Fader ND is not expensive.
Stepdown rings seem like one more thing to go wrong or get lost during a shoot.
Have not used the Fader NDs extensively (because I've been shooting a lot in low light) but they seem to work fine.
Boniface at Light Craft Workshop (the supplier) has been efficient and helpful.

Dan Brockett · November 17th, 2009, 11:11 AM

I have three of them, couldn't do much with the 5D MKII without them.

Great value and they work well.

I skipped step up and step down rings and just ordered the sizes I needed for each lens.

Dan

Olof Ekbergh · November 17th, 2009, 09:12 PM

I have one and it works very well but, you can't use your lens shade with it.

I have actually thought about building a special matte box just for this filter.

George Chinn · November 18th, 2009, 05:42 AM

Thanks for all the info. I've gone ahead and ordered the 77mm and can't wait to get it!

Wayne Avanson · November 18th, 2009, 08:24 AM

I have them too and think they're great especially for the money. I also didn't bother with step rings, I got a 77mm for my 24-70 and 70-200, and a 58 for my 85mm lens. Just ordered a 52mm dia one and had to order another 77mm one because I found out they're don't take kindly to being sat on.

Ouch. What and idiot…

Ozan Biron · November 27th, 2009, 02:45 PM

question... does the FaderND have any stop-marker points on the filter like the Singhray filter?

Ive be looking at the pictures of the filter and seems like there isnt any from what i can see?

anyone?

has anynotice these issues with the faderND?

http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/fo...t=26001&page=5

Ron Coker · November 27th, 2009, 04:51 PM

I recently purchased ND Fader with front thread size 86 mm. Allows wide angle zooms to function with out excessive clipping of the image frame.

Down side of this, an 86 mm lens hood is hard to come by, at a sane price. I settled on WA metal version. It's OK.

Charles Baisden · December 18th, 2009, 12:07 AM

Two stupid noob questions here:

1) How do I figure out what MM filter I need?

2) Can someone supply an actual link on where to purchase there? I'd love to compare the eBay version, and maybe something at B&H I could actually return if needed.

Thank you!
~ Charles

Wayne Avanson · December 18th, 2009, 02:53 PM

This is the one I bought recently off ebay for my 24-70/70-200 lenses

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ht_3561wt_1088

It says 77mm and that's the size i needed

Avey

November 16th, 2009, 05:55 AM	#1
George Chinn New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 22	Fader ND Question Hello, I am fairly new to the the world of 5D, and as a such I am still putting together a basic kit. One part of this kit is the Fader ND (Ebay one). I currently have the 24 - 105 F4 L (77mm filter thread) kit lens and a non L 50mm 1.8 (52mm filter thread). I want to buy a size of filter that is going to be able to be used on my current and all future lenses. My questions are as follows: 1) Are there many lenses that take the largest filter thread of 82mm? 2) Would I be able to use step down rings to accommodate the 77mm filter down to the 52mm of the 50mm 1.8 lens? 3) If I can use step down rings, is there any optical loss? 4) Are there any particular make of step down rings that people have used and are pleased with? Many Thanks in advance, George

November 17th, 2009, 10:02 AM	#3
Richard Gooderick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 795	I too have got the 5D with the 24-105 lens, and some old Nikon primes. So, same problem. I bought two Fader NDs because I couldn't be bothered with stepdown rings and the Fader ND is not expensive. Stepdown rings seem like one more thing to go wrong or get lost during a shoot. Have not used the Fader NDs extensively (because I've been shooting a lot in low light) but they seem to work fine. Boniface at Light Craft Workshop (the supplier) has been efficient and helpful. __________________ http://www.gooderick.com Last edited by Richard Gooderick; November 18th, 2009 at 03:38 AM.

November 27th, 2009, 02:45 PM	#8
Ozan Biron Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 137	question... does the FaderND have any stop-marker points on the filter like the Singhray filter? Ive be looking at the pictures of the filter and seems like there isnt any from what i can see? anyone? has anynotice these issues with the faderND? http://digitalphotographer.com.ph/fo...t=26001&page=5 __________________ www.ozan.ca Last edited by Ozan Biron; November 27th, 2009 at 03:33 PM.

November 27th, 2009, 04:51 PM	#9
Ron Coker Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Randwick Australia Posts: 59	86 mm ND Fader I recently purchased ND Fader with front thread size 86 mm. Allows wide angle zooms to function with out excessive clipping of the image frame. Down side of this, an 86 mm lens hood is hard to come by, at a sane price. I settled on WA metal version. It's OK.

December 18th, 2009, 12:07 AM	#10
Charles Baisden Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 94	Two stupid noob questions here: 1) How do I figure out what MM filter I need? 2) Can someone supply an actual link on where to purchase there? I'd love to compare the eBay version, and maybe something at B&H I could actually return if needed. Thank you! ~ Charles __________________ charles baisden \| paper pusher & owner http://www.fusionphotovideo.com

November 17th, 2009, 08:08 AM	#2
George Chinn New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 22	Does anyone have the ebay fader ND, and are they happy with it?

November 17th, 2009, 11:11 AM	#4
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	I have three of them, couldn't do much with the 5D MKII without them. Great value and they work well. I skipped step up and step down rings and just ordered the sizes I needed for each lens. Dan

November 17th, 2009, 09:12 PM	#5
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	I have one and it works very well but, you can't use your lens shade with it. I have actually thought about building a special matte box just for this filter.

November 18th, 2009, 05:42 AM	#6
George Chinn New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 22	Thanks for all the info. I've gone ahead and ordered the 77mm and can't wait to get it!

November 18th, 2009, 08:24 AM	#7
Wayne Avanson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancashire UK Posts: 496	I have them too and think they're great especially for the money. I also didn't bother with step rings, I got a 77mm for my 24-70 and 70-200, and a 58 for my 85mm lens. Just ordered a 52mm dia one and had to order another 77mm one because I found out they're don't take kindly to being sat on. Ouch. What and idiot…

December 18th, 2009, 02:53 PM	#11
Wayne Avanson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancashire UK Posts: 496	This is the one I bought recently off ebay for my 24-70/70-200 lenses http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ht_3561wt_1088 It says 77mm and that's the size i needed Avey