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Tito Haggardt · September 27th, 2009, 06:20 AM

24-105 or 24-70
i have to sell one to buy the D5 body
which one should go?
aloha
tito

David W. Jones · September 27th, 2009, 07:07 AM

OK I'll bite.
Why do you need to sell a 24-105 or 24-70 lens to buy a 5D body?

Charles W. Hull · September 27th, 2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tito Haggardt

24-105 or 24-70
i have to sell one to buy the D5 body
which one should go?

I have both lenses and I find myself almost always using the 24-105 with the 5DII. IS is a benefit for both video and stills, and I use the extra reach fairly often. I can't tell any difference in image quality between the lenses. And use a fast prime if you want shallow DOF.

Tito Haggardt · September 27th, 2009, 03:03 PM

i inherited a canon EOS 5D and three lenses EF 24-105 F-4, EF24-70 2.8 and 50mm 1.4
my interest is video, my camera is a sony EX-1
i want to upgrade to a Mark II so i have a second video camera and a good still camera
i am not a photographer, but my interest in video production and my isolated location have forced me to do camera work. in my limited knowledge i believe that my EX-1 lens is about a 31-440mm lens in 35mm speak so i think i might have the long end covered. i also envision my needs for the Mark II to be in tight shooting situations and ones where i am looking for a certain kind of shot, a close up or a lot of depth of field.

lastly i want to develop my equipment and knowledge so that it will attract a competent camera person and i will be able to communicate my wants to him/her.

Money is an issue so i was hoping to defray some of the 5D Mark II cost by selling one of the zoom lenses. i believe, that for the most part for my video work i would be using cheaper prime lenses and the one zoom would cover my still shot needs.

my local camera dealer has suggested i sell the 24-105 and claims the 24-70 is recognized as a superior lens by those in the know. they could be looking after their own needs for all i know so i decided to ask here on the forum for a real expert opinion.
aloha
tito

Daniel Bates · September 27th, 2009, 03:08 PM

First of all, it's a 5D, not a D5. Canon puts the "D" after the numeral (noted exceptions: D30 and D60), while Nikon does the reverse. It's not a Sony 1EX, is it? :)

The 24-70/2.8 and 24-105/4 are both excellent lenses optically. The differences are fairly obvious: f/2.8 vs IS and longer reach. Personally I'd keep the 24-105; the 5D2 has outstanding high-ISO quality and I rarely need to open up past f/4. Image stabilization does come in very handy sometimes as well.

Tito Haggardt · September 27th, 2009, 03:49 PM

Daniel
i have made the corrections, thanks for pointing it out
Image stabilization only with the 24-105 and not the 24-70?
and the F 4 usable in a wider range of light?
sorry for my ignorance
aloha
tito

Daniel Bates · September 27th, 2009, 03:55 PM

The 24-70 does not have IS. It is a faster lens, though, and can be opened up to f/2.8 (which lets in more light than the 24-105's maximum aperture of f/4).

That's the tradeoff. Do you need IS, or do you need the light / DOF from f/2.8?

Tito Haggardt · September 27th, 2009, 05:57 PM

Daniel
i see your point. mostly if i am using the camera for tight shots and particular looks i think the light might be more important. since i doubt that there will be much "run and gun" the IS seems less important. but why give it up if i can compensate with shutter speed and still have the IS. am i starting to get the point yet?
aloha
tito

Nick Hiltgen · September 27th, 2009, 06:15 PM

You'll get more money for the 24-70 because the 24-105 is a kit lens and there are loads of them being sold on ebay so that people can get a different lens (probably the 24-70). That being said I don't dig the 24-105 at all so I'd sell that one.

Matt Gottshalk · September 27th, 2009, 06:44 PM

For video, the 24-105 is my "go-to" lens.

Love it.

Lawrence Kim · September 28th, 2009, 01:14 AM

24-70 wins by far, the extra stop of light coupled with the high iso capability of the 5D helps tremendously
24-105 is more of an expensive kit lens

David W. Jones · September 28th, 2009, 05:43 AM

Since still photos take back seat to your video, keep the lenses and sell the EOS 5D body,
then purchase a EOS 7D body.

Michael Richard · September 28th, 2009, 11:47 AM

I'd hardly call the 24-105 a kit lens. It's an L series lens that sells for $1150 at BH.
It's also a half pound lighter and almost an inch shorter than the 24-70.
IS trumps that extra stop in my book.........

Jon Fairhurst · September 28th, 2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Richard

IS trumps that extra stop in my book.........

But a tripod/jib/dolly/steadicam trumps IS.

As usual, it all depends on what and how you plan to shoot.

Tony Davies-Patrick · September 28th, 2009, 02:09 PM

I'd much prefer the faster, and in my view better lens, the 24-70mm f/2.8 (and would never need IS on such a lens anyway).

The other option is of course to sell both the 5D body & 24-105, keep the 24-70mm and use the money towards a 5D Mk II and another lens, such as a macro or medium telephoto.

September 27th, 2009, 06:20 AM	#1
Tito Haggardt Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ocean View Hawaii Posts: 88	one lens has to go 24-105 or 24-70 i have to sell one to buy the D5 body which one should go? aloha tito Last edited by Tito Haggardt; September 27th, 2009 at 06:21 AM. Reason: misspelling

September 27th, 2009, 03:03 PM	#4
Tito Haggardt Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ocean View Hawaii Posts: 88	i inherited a canon EOS 5D and three lenses EF 24-105 F-4, EF24-70 2.8 and 50mm 1.4 my interest is video, my camera is a sony EX-1 i want to upgrade to a Mark II so i have a second video camera and a good still camera i am not a photographer, but my interest in video production and my isolated location have forced me to do camera work. in my limited knowledge i believe that my EX-1 lens is about a 31-440mm lens in 35mm speak so i think i might have the long end covered. i also envision my needs for the Mark II to be in tight shooting situations and ones where i am looking for a certain kind of shot, a close up or a lot of depth of field. lastly i want to develop my equipment and knowledge so that it will attract a competent camera person and i will be able to communicate my wants to him/her. Money is an issue so i was hoping to defray some of the 5D Mark II cost by selling one of the zoom lenses. i believe, that for the most part for my video work i would be using cheaper prime lenses and the one zoom would cover my still shot needs. my local camera dealer has suggested i sell the 24-105 and claims the 24-70 is recognized as a superior lens by those in the know. they could be looking after their own needs for all i know so i decided to ask here on the forum for a real expert opinion. aloha tito Last edited by Tito Haggardt; September 27th, 2009 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Error in model number

September 27th, 2009, 06:15 PM	#9
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	You'll get more money for the 24-70 because the 24-105 is a kit lens and there are loads of them being sold on ebay so that people can get a different lens (probably the 24-70). That being said I don't dig the 24-105 at all so I'd sell that one. __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

September 28th, 2009, 02:09 PM	#15
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	I'd much prefer the faster, and in my view better lens, the 24-70mm f/2.8 (and would never need IS on such a lens anyway). The other option is of course to sell both the 5D body & 24-105, keep the 24-70mm and use the money towards a 5D Mk II and another lens, such as a macro or medium telephoto. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

September 27th, 2009, 07:07 AM	#2
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	OK I'll bite. Why do you need to sell a 24-105 or 24-70 lens to buy a 5D body?

September 27th, 2009, 03:08 PM	#5
Daniel Bates Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Daegu, Korea Posts: 180	First of all, it's a 5D, not a D5. Canon puts the "D" after the numeral (noted exceptions: D30 and D60), while Nikon does the reverse. It's not a Sony 1EX, is it? :) The 24-70/2.8 and 24-105/4 are both excellent lenses optically. The differences are fairly obvious: f/2.8 vs IS and longer reach. Personally I'd keep the 24-105; the 5D2 has outstanding high-ISO quality and I rarely need to open up past f/4. Image stabilization does come in very handy sometimes as well.

September 27th, 2009, 03:49 PM	#6
Tito Haggardt Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ocean View Hawaii Posts: 88	Daniel i have made the corrections, thanks for pointing it out Image stabilization only with the 24-105 and not the 24-70? and the F 4 usable in a wider range of light? sorry for my ignorance aloha tito

September 27th, 2009, 03:55 PM	#7
Daniel Bates Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Daegu, Korea Posts: 180	The 24-70 does not have IS. It is a faster lens, though, and can be opened up to f/2.8 (which lets in more light than the 24-105's maximum aperture of f/4). That's the tradeoff. Do you need IS, or do you need the light / DOF from f/2.8?

September 27th, 2009, 05:57 PM	#8
Tito Haggardt Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ocean View Hawaii Posts: 88	Daniel i see your point. mostly if i am using the camera for tight shots and particular looks i think the light might be more important. since i doubt that there will be much "run and gun" the IS seems less important. but why give it up if i can compensate with shutter speed and still have the IS. am i starting to get the point yet? aloha tito

September 27th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#10
Matt Gottshalk Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Posts: 215	For video, the 24-105 is my "go-to" lens. Love it.

September 28th, 2009, 01:14 AM	#11
Lawrence Kim New Boot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 11	24-70 wins by far, the extra stop of light coupled with the high iso capability of the 5D helps tremendously 24-105 is more of an expensive kit lens

September 28th, 2009, 05:43 AM	#12
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	Since still photos take back seat to your video, keep the lenses and sell the EOS 5D body, then purchase a EOS 7D body.

September 28th, 2009, 11:47 AM	#13
Michael Richard Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Midcoast, Maine Posts: 89	I'd hardly call the 24-105 a kit lens. It's an L series lens that sells for $1150 at BH. It's also a half pound lighter and almost an inch shorter than the 24-70. IS trumps that extra stop in my book.........