Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release

John Owen · February 4th, 2011, 03:33 PM

Hi guys

On the ML site it specifies that for monitoring, the cam 'Only outputs 480p while recording (quicktime file is still 1080p)' - But, I'm sure i saw somewhere that ML had resolved this so that the cam was able to output 1080i whilst recording?? What's the sketch? (n.b no speculation please, really need a concrete answer on this)

Much love.

Daniel Kohl · February 4th, 2011, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Winn

Not exactly accurate Daniel,

In November Tramm did release a new Magic Lantern version for the current 2.08 version of the 5D. (Link to thread below).

The biggest feature for me is the ability to turn the A/V jack into a headphone jack, that's huge and I wish Canon would design their own FW to give us this option.

Here's the thread about the newest ML version.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...c-lantern.html

Hey Danny,

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm going to try out the new version as soon as possible!

Cheers

Paul Cook · February 4th, 2011, 07:59 PM

Hi John,

The solid answer is NO it does not support 1080 over HDMI while in record at this time.

You are correct in that a long time ago Tram posted a video showing some features he was working on - and 1080i over HDMI was one of them but in the video there were visible problems meaning it was unusable so I guess this hasn't been something he was able to overcome.

At this stage I guess we just have to cross our fingers and hope that the 5dmk3 will have this along with 60p. Either that or some miracle aligning of the planets and Nikon releasing a D800 / 5dmk2 killer (I know, I laughed as I typed that)

Chris Barcellos · February 4th, 2011, 09:46 PM

For the moment, most of the development with Magic Lantern has been going on in the Canon 550/T2i realm. The new versions of Magic Lantern for that camera sport some great new features, including false colors like you would have on a pro monitor, peaking for focus aids, enhanced zebras, bit rate control, movie restart (automatic restarting of the camera, though still with a 1 second or so gap), extended multistep ISO, and a fantastic 1 button white balance. Works seems almost complete to, in dealing with the change of resolution problems on monitors that occurs when recording is started. They seem to be getting close to perfect change over for zebras and peaking overlays to allow them to be used during recording.

In his recent interview, Trammel Hudson indicates that the emphasis will be to port this to the the 5D and to the 60D, where work is currently alreadh being done.

Antony Newman is currently working on a ML version for the Canon 5D that has these newer features folded in already. It is available in an known as AJ 4.5. I have been testing it, and really find the new menu structure interesting. He also has a thing called Magic Circles that you can cycle through as a focusing aid. Essentially, a portion of the screen is magnified almost like a picture within a picture to aid in manual focusing.

Paul Cook · February 4th, 2011, 11:35 PM

Im 40 minutes into that interview - have never seen or heard Trammell before but what an amazing individual. Sadly he did pretty much confirm that 1080 out on the 5D is not going to happen. Still if they can bring all the other wonders from the 550 ML to the 5D that would be welcome.

John Owen · February 8th, 2011, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cook

Hi John,

The solid answer is NO it does not support 1080 over HDMI while in record at this time.

You are correct in that a long time ago Tram posted a video showing some features he was working on - and 1080i over HDMI was one of them but in the video there were visible problems meaning it was unusable so I guess this hasn't been something he was able to overcome.

At this stage I guess we just have to cross our fingers and hope that the 5dmk3 will have this along with 60p. Either that or some miracle aligning of the planets and Nikon releasing a D800 / 5dmk2 killer (I know, I laughed as I typed that)

Hi Paul, thanks for this. SUCH a shame - I feel like this really is a missing part of the DSLR puzzle.I currently have a 550, and want to upgrade to 5D but this is making the decision harder. I so want a full frame sensor, and all else that ML offers is so great, but the temptation to get a 7d JUST FOR THE 1080 OUTPUT is big. Shouldn't complain too much though, ML is a wonderful, innovative piece of work. As is Canons hardware. But.....

Sterling Youngman · June 2nd, 2011, 10:32 PM

I just updated to the new Canon firmware 2.0.9. Now ML won't load onto my 5D. Is there a work around? Or am I stuck. I miss the audio meters while filming.

-Sterling

Chris Barcellos · June 2nd, 2011, 10:46 PM

I have successfully retrograded from 2.08 to 2.04 in order to run A J Newmans version of Magic Lantern that includes some significant upgrades to Magic Lantern. Unless Canon has suddenly changed things, the retrograde should work from 2.09 to 2.08.

Chris Barcellos · June 2nd, 2011, 10:52 PM

double post, sorry

Sterling Youngman · June 2nd, 2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

I have successfully retrograded from 2.08 to 2.04

Chris,

Any idea where I can get the 2.04 firmware? Canon does keep legacy firmware on their site.

Cheers,

Sterling

Chris Barcellos · June 2nd, 2011, 11:42 PM

Check Out Moira O'briens site here:

Cork Photographer - Moira O'Brien Photography

Sterling Youngman · June 2nd, 2011, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

I have successfully retrograded from 2.08 to 2.04 in order to run A J Newmans version of Magic Lantern that includes some significant upgrades to Magic Lantern. Unless Canon has suddenly changed things, the retrograde should work from 2.09 to 2.08.

Thanks Chris. I'll see if I can downgrade to 2.04

Chris Barcellos · June 3rd, 2011, 12:13 AM

I am not sure if you are aware of AJ Newman's version, but it is quite different from Trammel Hudson's last release in November of last year.

Latest version is AJ 5.7. It is considered test version, and has things like false colors, and significant new focusing aids.

Sterling Youngman · June 3rd, 2011, 12:24 AM

Chris,

The downgrade worked, and I have AJ's firmware installed.

Thanks for your help.

I was hired to do a three camera interview next week. The extra cameras arrive tomorrow. I have to think of something to film over the weekend. Would be a shame to waste the opportunity.

Cheers,

Sterling

Andrew Drefs · June 21st, 2011, 03:00 PM

Can anyone provide a link to this version and/or anymore detail as to what it includes/changes?

Thanks

February 4th, 2011, 03:33 PM	#106
John Owen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: London, UK Posts: 52	ML confusion Hi guys On the ML site it specifies that for monitoring, the cam 'Only outputs 480p while recording (quicktime file is still 1080p)' - But, I'm sure i saw somewhere that ML had resolved this so that the cam was able to output 1080i whilst recording?? What's the sketch? (n.b no speculation please, really need a concrete answer on this) Much love.

February 4th, 2011, 09:46 PM	#109
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	For the moment, most of the development with Magic Lantern has been going on in the Canon 550/T2i realm. The new versions of Magic Lantern for that camera sport some great new features, including false colors like you would have on a pro monitor, peaking for focus aids, enhanced zebras, bit rate control, movie restart (automatic restarting of the camera, though still with a 1 second or so gap), extended multistep ISO, and a fantastic 1 button white balance. Works seems almost complete to, in dealing with the change of resolution problems on monitors that occurs when recording is started. They seem to be getting close to perfect change over for zebras and peaking overlays to allow them to be used during recording. In his recent interview, Trammel Hudson indicates that the emphasis will be to port this to the the 5D and to the 60D, where work is currently alreadh being done. Antony Newman is currently working on a ML version for the Canon 5D that has these newer features folded in already. It is available in an known as AJ 4.5. I have been testing it, and really find the new menu structure interesting. He also has a thing called Magic Circles that you can cycle through as a focusing aid. Essentially, a portion of the screen is magnified almost like a picture within a picture to aid in manual focusing. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

June 2nd, 2011, 10:32 PM	#112
Sterling Youngman Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 62	Re: Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release I just updated to the new Canon firmware 2.0.9. Now ML won't load onto my 5D. Is there a work around? Or am I stuck. I miss the audio meters while filming. -Sterling __________________ When you get to the end of your rope, you either hang or hang on.

June 2nd, 2011, 10:46 PM	#113
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release I have successfully retrograded from 2.08 to 2.04 in order to run A J Newmans version of Magic Lantern that includes some significant upgrades to Magic Lantern. Unless Canon has suddenly changed things, the retrograde should work from 2.09 to 2.08. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

June 2nd, 2011, 10:52 PM	#114
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release double post, sorry __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

February 4th, 2011, 07:59 PM	#108
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	Hi John, The solid answer is NO it does not support 1080 over HDMI while in record at this time. You are correct in that a long time ago Tram posted a video showing some features he was working on - and 1080i over HDMI was one of them but in the video there were visible problems meaning it was unusable so I guess this hasn't been something he was able to overcome. At this stage I guess we just have to cross our fingers and hope that the 5dmk3 will have this along with 60p. Either that or some miracle aligning of the planets and Nikon releasing a D800 / 5dmk2 killer (I know, I laughed as I typed that)

February 4th, 2011, 11:35 PM	#110
Paul Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 174	Im 40 minutes into that interview - have never seen or heard Trammell before but what an amazing individual. Sadly he did pretty much confirm that 1080 out on the 5D is not going to happen. Still if they can bring all the other wonders from the 550 ML to the 5D that would be welcome.

June 2nd, 2011, 11:42 PM	#116
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release Check Out Moira O'briens site here: Cork Photographer - Moira O'Brien Photography __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

June 3rd, 2011, 12:13 AM	#118
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release I am not sure if you are aware of AJ Newman's version, but it is quite different from Trammel Hudson's last release in November of last year. Latest version is AJ 5.7. It is considered test version, and has things like false colors, and significant new focusing aids. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

June 3rd, 2011, 12:24 AM	#119
Sterling Youngman Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 62	Re: Magic Lantern 0.1.6 release Chris, The downgrade worked, and I have AJ's firmware installed. Thanks for your help. I was hired to do a three camera interview next week. The extra cameras arrive tomorrow. I have to think of something to film over the weekend. Would be a shame to waste the opportunity. Cheers, Sterling __________________ When you get to the end of your rope, you either hang or hang on.

June 21st, 2011, 03:00 PM	#120
Andrew Drefs New Boot Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 6	AJ Newman version link Can anyone provide a link to this version and/or anymore detail as to what it includes/changes? Thanks