Audio: In-camera ML + Juicedlink or External?

[Dan Chung]

Peter,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I think you are going the right direction with the Juicedlink, it plays very well with Magic Lantern and pretty much any decent mic. If you want to add a separate recorder later then it will really help there too, in fact I've just been running some tests with the Juicedlink feeding my Sony PCM-D50 instead of the camera and the results are very good indeed, basically the best I can get, clean phantom power with XLRs, great preamps, and the dynamic clipping function of the Sony recorder and proper knobs instead of push buttons like the Zoom.

One other trick for the future, If you only recording mono then a radio mic linking a 5DmkII running ML and an audio recorder (or recorder + juicedlink) gives really nice in camera sound for a guide track (even as the main track if there are no interference issues). Alternatively you can run a recorder radio linked to an on camera Juicedlink on one XLR and feed the other XLR with a top mic for backup. The combinations are endless.

Dan

[Peter Chang]

Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

One possibility is to split the mic cable to feed both the left and right channels, and run one channel with a lower gain as a safety channel. No mixing is needed at all then. (Though you will want to be able to turn down the headphone monitor to reduce blasts.) It would be cool to pad one of the headphone channels to rebalance the audio.

Jon, have you tried this? This sounds like a great idea in theory. I know I have an XLR-splitter around here somewhere...

[Peter Chang]

Originally Posted by Dan Chung

One other trick for the future, If you only recording mono then a radio mic linking a 5DmkII running ML and an audio recorder (or recorder + juicedlink) gives really nice in camera sound for a guide track (even as the main track if there are no interference issues). Alternatively you can run a recorder radio linked to an on camera Juicedlink on one XLR and feed the other XLR with a top mic for backup. The combinations are endless.

Thanks for the update, Dan! These are great ideas. It would be great if you could untether things and still get quality in-camera sound.

[Ryan Koo]

Originally Posted by Dan Chung

One other trick for the future, If you only recording mono then a radio mic linking a 5DmkII running ML and an audio recorder (or recorder + juicedlink) gives really nice in camera sound for a guide track (even as the main track if there are no interference issues).

This is a great idea, as it would eliminate the problem of on-set playback not having the high quality audio, and would even be good enough for NLE editing with everything synched up -- then the separate-system sound could be dropped in for a final mix.

Anyone have any particular radio equipment suggestions for doing this?

Also, Jon Fairhurst, I've been following your audio tests on vimeo -- great and very helpful stuff. Any ETA on the "Conclusion?"

[Jon Fairhurst]

Originally Posted by Ryan Koo

Also, Jon Fairhurst, I've been following your audio tests on vimeo -- great and very helpful stuff. Any ETA on the "Conclusion?"

Hi Ryan,

I plan to re-shoot tonight. I shot it once and changed the script. I shot it again, but had a computer on 20+ feet away and didn't think it would be a problem. Hearing the audio, I didn't think it was up to snuff, so it's time for take three!