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April 29th, 2009, 07:36 PM
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Sony Vegas Pro 8 - 5D2 Editing Workflow
1. Convert all mov files to avi with Neoscene 1.2.1 and above
2. Drag into Vegas timeline 3. Apply Color correction filter >> Video Systems RGB to Computer RGB (Critical Step to correct washed out image due to incorrect representation by Vegas!!!) 4. Edit as per normal and render to desired format |
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April 29th, 2009, 07:58 PM
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Wait, we still need to do the color correction trick? I thought the current version of Quicktime registers the black level correctly?
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April 29th, 2009, 11:21 PM
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You only need to convert to Computer RGB if your monitor isn't adjusted for video and you want to see how it looks. It's better if you calibrate your monitor to set the black level correctly and avoid the conversion.
If you add the Computer RGB correction, Vegas will crush your blacks and whites when you render your output.
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April 29th, 2009, 11:53 PM
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How do you calibrate your computer LCD for video?
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April 30th, 2009, 12:49 AM
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Put SMPTE colorbars on your timeline. (Insert | Generated Media | Test Pattern)
In the lower right, you will see three dark bars. The first is darker than black. The second is black. The third is lighter than black. Adjust the monitor brightness so the darker than black bar disappears. Some monitors have enough range in the brightness control to handle it. At work, I use a Sharp Aquos with brightness set at -18. My home Acer monitor doesn't have the range - in fact, I think it's a backlight, rather than brightness, control. I set my ATI Catalyst (video card) control panel brightness to -19, and that did the trick. You don't have to worry about the whites. There's no absolute reference. As long as your whites don't clip (they won't, unless you boost the contrast) you're good. This is a nice thing about Vegas using 16-235: you can pass legal SMPTE bars. NLEs that use 0-255 can't.
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April 30th, 2009, 05:07 AM
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Thanks Jon. I got the tip from Cineform. I was testing the converted avi out and found the footage washed out when compared to the original. I will do a test to see if the rendered output looks ok.
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April 30th, 2009, 06:24 AM
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Hi Jon, I followed your instructions to tune my monitor and proceeded to make a clip with the 3 settings as below, and rendered it to mpeg2 PAL for regular TV playback. All three clips turned out a little different! The best looking was soln 1. soln 2 looked ok as well as 1 & 2 looked very similar. 3 does look a little washed out but not as bad as it looks on PC. After following your calibration method it doesnt look that washed out on the PC as well but it is still noticable.
1. cineform avi + colour filter (PC RGB) 2. 5D2 mov 3. cineform avi |
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April 30th, 2009, 10:38 AM
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Open your Vegas scopes to make sure that your signal is correct. Black should be a 16 and white at 235. When you render a DVD/BD from Vegas, the levels should be perfect.
Also, my assumption is that you're running your project at 8-bits. I believe that Vegas is 0-255 when in 32-bit mode.
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