Neo Scene 1.1.2 (Win) with better 5D support

Per Kristensen · March 11th, 2009, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guillaume Roques

I had similar issues until I activated "fast" playback:

Go to Start->Programs->CineForm->NeoScene->tools->Desktop Playback -- Fast

Guillaume

Now my trial has expired so I dont really have any clips to test it on :(

Per Kristensen · March 11th, 2009, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hahn

Also, make sure premiere is set to draft quality display.

I cannot find that setting?

Ray Bell · March 11th, 2009, 04:26 AM

with Premiere open.... look at the top right corner of the preview screen... there you will see a small arrow . Click on the arrow and lots of display items become available...

including the draft quality display setting.

You should check out each setting as there are some that are important there... like the
scopes for example...

Mark Hahn · March 11th, 2009, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Bell

with Premiere open.... look at the top right corner of the preview screen... there you will see a small arrow . Click on the arrow and lots of display items become available...

including the draft quality display setting.

You should check out each setting as there are some that are important there... like the
scopes for example...

On CS3 it's on the right click menu.

Per Kristensen · March 11th, 2009, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Bell

with Premiere open.... look at the top right corner of the preview screen... there you will see a small arrow . Click on the arrow and lots of display items become available...

including the draft quality display setting.

You should check out each setting as there are some that are important there... like the
scopes for example...

No such thing. Mind you this is Elements 7 I am using.

Jay Birch · March 11th, 2009, 07:11 AM

I get a "format not supported" error message when trying to convert.

Windows XP / 64 bit

Mark Hahn · March 11th, 2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Birch

I get a "format not supported" error message when trying to convert.

Windows XP / 64 bit

Do you have Quicktime Installed on your PC? Make sure and get the latest.

Andy Todzia · March 13th, 2009, 07:12 PM

I just installed the trial version of NeoScene on a VISTA 64 bit PC. It does the conversions of the Canon 5D Mark II HD MOV files but when I drag the clips to the Vegas Pro 8.1 timeline all I get is the audio portion. If I double click on a converted AVI file it opens it up in Windows Media Player and it plays fine. Any ideas on why Vegas does not see the video, just the audio?

David Newman · March 13th, 2009, 07:31 PM

Vegas 8.1 is not compatilible with 32-bit VfW codecs, you need 8.0c.

Andy Todzia · March 13th, 2009, 07:38 PM

Is CineForm going to have a 64 bit version of NeoScene? Does this mean that if i want to use NeoScene I can't use Vegas Pro 8.1 ? I wonder if anyone can speak to the pros / cons of going backwards to 32 bit Vegas on Vista 64 bit to use NeoScene, or am I better off just staying with Vegas 8.1 and not use NeoScene? This whole video thing is new to me with the 5D, which I bought mainly for it's still picture capability.

David Newman · March 13th, 2009, 07:45 PM

8.0c and 8.1 are pretty much the same. You are not likely to experience any difference, other than more AVI sources will work (including ours.) We have no immediate plans for the 64-bit of a Video for Windows codec.

Andy Todzia · March 13th, 2009, 08:14 PM

I just installed Vegas 8.0c and NeoScene seems to work fine as far as the preview displaying smoothly (haven't gotten any further). When I tried to install that suggested free AC3 filter I had an error and it wouldn't install (maybe because I am using Vista 64 bit). I will just be recording in stereo and outputting in stereo, so is there any need for me to even install an AC3 filter?

Mark Hahn · March 13th, 2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David Newman

8.0c and 8.1 are pretty much the same. You are not likely to experience any difference, other than more AVI sources will work (including ours.) We have no immediate plans for the 64-bit of a Video for Windows codec.

The mmx and sse extensions to the processor for video processing have always been something very big like 64-bits, 128-bit, or even 256-bits (maybe). The software running at "64-bits" has no real advantage over "32-bits".

It's more complicated than I'm explaining here (not because I'm simplifying, but because I don't really know), but the concept is valid.

David Newman · March 13th, 2009, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Hahn

The mmx and sse extensions to the processor for video processing have always been something very big like 64-bits, 128-bit, or even 256-bits (maybe). The software running at "64-bits" has no real advantage over "32-bits".

It's more complicated than I'm explaining here (not because I'm simplifying, but because I don't really know), but the concept is valid.

Agreed, CineForm uses 128-bit instructions for media processing. "64-bit" is an addressing thing so applications can use more then 4GB at once -- we don't need that.

David Newman · March 13th, 2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Todzia

I just installed Vegas 8.0c and NeoScene seems to work fine as far as the preview displaying smoothly (haven't gotten any further). When I tried to install that suggested free AC3 filter I had an error and it wouldn't install (maybe because I am using Vista 64 bit). I will just be recording in stereo and outputting in stereo, so is there any need for me to even install an AC3 filter?

Most of these cameras encode stereo as AC3, we use any AC-3 decoder to decompress the audio, but systems not have a decoder installed that is way we recommend this filter.

March 13th, 2009, 07:31 PM	#39
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Vegas 8.1 is not compatilible with 32-bit VfW codecs, you need 8.0c. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 13th, 2009, 07:45 PM	#41
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	8.0c and 8.1 are pretty much the same. You are not likely to experience any difference, other than more AVI sources will work (including ours.) We have no immediate plans for the 64-bit of a Video for Windows codec. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 11th, 2009, 04:26 AM	#33
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	with Premiere open.... look at the top right corner of the preview screen... there you will see a small arrow . Click on the arrow and lots of display items become available... including the draft quality display setting. You should check out each setting as there are some that are important there... like the scopes for example...

March 11th, 2009, 07:11 AM	#36
Jay Birch Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Portimao Posts: 49	I get a "format not supported" error message when trying to convert. Windows XP / 64 bit

March 13th, 2009, 07:12 PM	#38
Andy Todzia Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 34	I just installed the trial version of NeoScene on a VISTA 64 bit PC. It does the conversions of the Canon 5D Mark II HD MOV files but when I drag the clips to the Vegas Pro 8.1 timeline all I get is the audio portion. If I double click on a converted AVI file it opens it up in Windows Media Player and it plays fine. Any ideas on why Vegas does not see the video, just the audio?

March 13th, 2009, 07:38 PM	#40
Andy Todzia Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 34	Is CineForm going to have a 64 bit version of NeoScene? Does this mean that if i want to use NeoScene I can't use Vegas Pro 8.1 ? I wonder if anyone can speak to the pros / cons of going backwards to 32 bit Vegas on Vista 64 bit to use NeoScene, or am I better off just staying with Vegas 8.1 and not use NeoScene? This whole video thing is new to me with the 5D, which I bought mainly for it's still picture capability.

March 13th, 2009, 08:14 PM	#42
Andy Todzia Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Posts: 34	I just installed Vegas 8.0c and NeoScene seems to work fine as far as the preview displaying smoothly (haven't gotten any further). When I tried to install that suggested free AC3 filter I had an error and it wouldn't install (maybe because I am using Vista 64 bit). I will just be recording in stereo and outputting in stereo, so is there any need for me to even install an AC3 filter?