Intermediate Codecs for Windows Users

[Yang Wen]

Originally Posted by Keith Paisley

So I finally ended up transcoding everything into 720p using the built-in Cineform HDV codec and it worked beautifully. Watching the preview and editing at a rock solid 30.000 fps is a thing of beauty too. Oh well, it sure would be nice if Neo HD didn't cost $500. I can't see spending that much just to fix something (colorspace glitches) that we shouldn't have to worry about in the first place.

Hmm So I have Cineform HDV (the stand alone application, not the one that came with Vegas) If you're able to render it to the cineform codec from within vegas, why can't I use NeoHDV's HDLink and render my 5D2 files?

[Keith Paisley]

Originally Posted by Yang Wen

Hmm So I have Cineform HDV (the stand alone application, not the one that came with Vegas) If you're able to render it to the cineform codec from within vegas, why can't I use NeoHDV's HDLink and render my 5D2 files?

who said you couldn't do that? have you tried it? I think it should work.

[Tony Koorlander]

Hi All,
I've been messing around trying out the limits of the camera and have noticed that as mentioned, direct dragging to the timeline seems to lose some of the dynamic range. I have tried this in Vegas 8 Pro with 32 bit option selected and it seems better. The BEST quick results have been to use the Windows Media encoder direct from the Vegas timeline.
I created a new preset project at 1920x1080 30P 32 bit mode. Then drag the .mov files onto the timeline. Render out as 1920x1080 30P .wmv two pass max sharpness 8MB/s stream and it seems pretty good for wmv.

I've tried to get it to .avi using the Cineform Neo HD which is capable of 1920x1080P .. but it doesn't seem to like the 30P H264 for some reason and crashes out .. or else gives audio but no video.

I reckon Cineform'll probably do something soon .. they're very good people.

BTW if you want tryout files my website has a load of zipped .mov untouched from the camera. These were my own 'evaluation' shots .. so don't expect 'art' ;-)

location is here - Untitled Document

[Robert Martens]

Originally Posted by Keith Paisley

Ok, I tested it a little bit - it doesn't seem to change the preview framerate much for a single clip, BUT the biggest problem I see is that since you're de-interleaving the audio from the video track, it gets out of synch. On the one test clip I've been using, the audio track was shorter by about 1/2 second (0:26:16 vs 0:27:02). That could be problematic on larger projects but not such a big deal if you're using off-camera audio (except maybe in the case you're trying to synch the offcamera audio with the standard track)

I hate to dig up old discussions as much as anyone, but it's only fair to note that, inspired by this very thread, the audio truncation issue has been addressed in AVFS 1.0.0.5: http://www.turtlewar.org/avfs/

I haven't been keeping up with 5D discussions since my participation in this thread, so I imagine most of you have moved on to other editing solutions by now, but if you ever have a project that will benefit from AviSynth frameserving and the AVFS plugin, you can now safely disable interleaving without knocking your audio out of whack.

[Silas Barker]

Is there a way to import 5D footage into Adobe Premier CS3 and then use Media Encoder to get it into a better format? I am thinking about getting the 5D but I don't really want to spend money for software to make it all work if I do not have to. Advice would be appreciated.