Can firmware change these? at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon EOS Full Frame for HD
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

Canon EOS Full Frame for HD
All about using the Canon 1D X, 6D, 5D Mk. IV / Mk. III / Mk. II D-SLR for 4K and HD video recording.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old December 9th, 2008, 07:40 AM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cambodia
Posts: 43
Canon 5D mark 2 firmware update.WL

it time for us to do the wish list on the next firmware update.
sine we have a very nice camera in our hand. now time for us to make action to canon.
to be true i like this camera. but there are thing i hate and i can see canon can make it good
on the firmware update.

we like to see the control same in the photo function. sine the video function is all auto,
and this is not the way we work.

and i hope you guys think the same ask me and we can work together and put on some list to canon.

thank

bad english sorry.
Bunseng Chuor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 07:48 AM   #2
Major Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 591
wish....

full manual control in movie mode.

and the ultimate would be.... to shoot "RAW" in movie mode and canon provide a raw converter.
Christopher Witz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 07:55 AM   #3
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cambodia
Posts: 43
yeah the idea of raw is good, so we can work on uncompress file, like red.
come on canon Red have this, so do you.

and other this is to fix the rolling shutter speed.
oh and focus frame rate... :)
Bunseng Chuor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 07:56 AM   #4
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
1. Menu option to re-purpose the AV output jack as a stereo headphone jack, for live monitoring of audio recording, per the entire Canon VIXIA camcorder line.

2. Option for manual audio level control (simple, ganged L+R, as on the consumer level VIXIA camcorders)
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 07:58 AM   #5
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunseng Chuor View Post
raw is good, so we can work on uncompress file, like red.
You guys should understand that RedCode Raw is most definitely *not* uncompressed...
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 08:06 AM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cambodia
Posts: 43
i'm not so sure about red raw. but the idea is to have the 4:4:4 sample so we can get the detail like the F22, i know 5dm2 is good at keying too cuz i was try it last time and it work grate, but still we need more data to work on, like raw video.

can some one correct me, is 4:4:4 can count as uncompress? i know raw have more bit then 4:4:4

thank
Bunseng Chuor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #7
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
Please realize that the *vast majority* of 5D Mk.II buyers would have no idea what to do with uncompressed video. What's wrong with the 5D Mk.II's current video implementation, anyway? Remember the law of diminishing returns: how is a minor gain in image quality worth a major expense in storage requirements? How is the current 48mbps data rate not good enough?
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #8
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portimao
Posts: 49
24/25fps and manual controls... that's all I ask

Even the manual controls... I think within a month, everyone will be used to tricking the camera to get the settings they want, but it would be great to have full manual.

Skew fix would be nice, but I think that is more sensor driven than software.
Jay Birch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 10:46 AM   #9
Major Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 591
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Hurd View Post
Please realize that the *vast majority* of 5D Mk.II buyers would have no idea what to do with uncompressed video. What's wrong with the 5D Mk.II's current video implementation, anyway? Remember the law of diminishing returns: how is a minor gain in image quality worth a major expense in storage requirements? How is the current 48mbps data rate not good enough?
I'm more interested in RAW so that the white balance, sharpness, and contrast ( especially highlight recovery ) can be adjusted in post.... not necessarily in codec quality....

and yes... manual gain control of audio and 24p ( at the same bitrate ) would be a huge improvement.
Christopher Witz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Riverside, Ca
Posts: 307
In no particular order:
- Manual Audio Control
- Audio Monitoring
- 24/25P
- Untainted HDMI Output
- Manual Control in Video Mode.

It's a lot to ask for, I know...
Matthew Roddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 01:22 PM   #11
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Camas, WA, USA
Posts: 5,513
#1 - Full Manual Video Control
WHY? - I'd rather buy Canon EF lenses, but if they want people to buy Nikon...

#2 - 24p/25p
WHY? - Blu-ray supports 24p, not 30p; Don't insult the European market.

These fixes don't just improve our lives, they will improve Canon's sales of Canon lenses worldwide, as well as 5D2 sales in Europe.

Also, these fixes seem feasible. Canon can clearly control focus, aperture, shutter and gain, so it's just a matter of making the controls available to the user. Regarding 24/25p, this is SLOWER than 30p, so it should be doable.

Other features might be nice for us, but they won't significantly improve Canon sales. For instance, better audio might be nice, but we can improve it even more with a separate XLR-input recorder. Clean HDMI would be cool, but it seems that they downgraded it for a reason (lower power? more DSP cycles for better compression?)

I think we should hammer on the two feature improvements above, and not dilute them with other requests. And we need to let Canon know that these fixes will help their bottom line.
__________________
Jon Fairhurst
Jon Fairhurst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 03:29 PM   #12
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 172
I agree Jon, 100%! If the "community" focuses on two really important things it'll be much more likely to happen.
Tyler Franco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #13
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
Let's make it three... audio monitoring would be so easy to enable on this camera.
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #14
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 181
My guess is canon didn't enable 24p because they didn't want to pay the 24p license. If that's the case, I doubt we'll see 24p enabled anytime soon.

OTOH, I'd love full manual control, 24p and the option of choosing between different bitrates. Thing is... the encoder they are using is not the best one out there, so a little extra bit rate couldn't hurt. I'm ok with RGB though :)
Luis de la Cerda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 9th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #15
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 949
My top 10

1. Manual control of Aperture, shutter, and ISO.
2. Break the 12 minute barrier (e.g. start a new file after 4 GB).
3. 24p.
4. Manual control of audio level.
5. Audio monitoring.
6. 1-4 stop "HTP" at all ISO over 1600.
7. Live RGB Histograms

Number 6 would leave 1-4 stops of highlights in the image with no penalty to read noise. (The current implementation of ISO 3200+ clips the highlights with no benefit at all.)

Things that will likely require much more horsepower than the 5D2 is capable of:

8. Sample every pixel instead of one in three, to reduce aliasing artifacts greatly.
9. Raw format of any kind (e.g. sRAW to 1872x1053, nonlinear encoding, etc.).
10. Live 1080p output with assist features (peaking, etc.)
Daniel Browning is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon EOS Full Frame for HD


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:20 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network