Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera

Robert Turchick · July 23rd, 2012, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Nunez

I'm willing to bet a "pro" version will come out- this is too basic to appeal to prosumers.
Give us mic-in and HDMI out for monitoring and some manual dials and you will have something EOS shooters will want!

From Canon...

Video Out Terminal
(1) Video OUT terminal: NTSC/PAL selectable

(2) mini-HDMI OUT terminal

Mic in would have been nice but is certainly not a deal breaker. To most of us pro shooters, this will be a supplementary camera anyway. I don't even consider full-size DSLR's a main camera.

Chris Hurd · July 23rd, 2012, 05:23 PM

Yes, it would have been nice if that video out terminal -- a standard triple-ring stereo mini jack -- had been a headphone jack instead. Who uses those SD video outputs anymore? Nobody I know. We've been living in an HDMI world for awhile now.

Jay Kavi · July 23rd, 2012, 05:41 PM

Wow, looks sweet. it'll make a great travel cam for when I don't wanna lug around the 5d. Finally Canon!!

Tim Polster · July 23rd, 2012, 07:26 PM

If Canon puts clean HDMI output on this a lot of people are going to scream...including me.

Yes, these cameras will give GoPro cameras a run. A comparison would be interesting once everything is on the market. Although the new mirrorless is quite a bit more money than GoPro.

This is a tough space for Canon to compete for video as the GH2 is so popular and the GH3 is probably not far away. Great to see new camera models.

Charles W. Hull · July 23rd, 2012, 07:46 PM

I have the EFS 17-55 stabilized f/2.8 that's been sitting around waiting for a camera like this. To me it's one of the best Canon zooms, APS-C or not. My difficult question about the EOS M will be what color to get.

Lee Mullen · July 23rd, 2012, 09:17 PM

How does it compare with the Sony RX100 for specs?

Dylan Couper · July 23rd, 2012, 10:46 PM

Why don't you google RX100 specs and report back to us with what you find?

The no mic input is the only thing disappointing to me. That would have been a deal maker.

Andy Wilkinson · July 24th, 2012, 01:45 AM

Damn. I missed that it had no mic input! Seems a waste to give it manual audio level controls just for using with those top mounted stereo holes.

May not be a deal breaker for me, as I would still be using a main cam for the sound capture and just need a reference audio track to help sync the cutaways to.

I guess mic input jack is something they are holding back for the higher price market segment that they will aim a semi-pro variant at, sometime in the future.

Ryan Jones · July 24th, 2012, 06:51 AM

This looks as compact as their point and shoot cams, with more flexibility. Easier to carry around than the 7D.

If its smaller than a GH2, like it looks, I'll be in.

Min Lee · July 24th, 2012, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Wilkinson

Also, I think I read (somewhere, can't find it now!) that it has the 3x and 10x digital zoom function (that they omitted to put on the 5DMkIII), the 3X being the most desirable one of course for video. Scanned the official specs but did not see this feature mentioned - may have missed it as I'm tired. It's been a long hot day here in England. Not said that for a while! I really hope it does have that feature. Can anyone confirm?

I'm also very interested in the 3x crop. The point of these mirrorless cameras are supposed to be small and this would allow you to use a small prime as a telephoto in video. It would seal the deal for me if this camera had this feature.

Also, the camera does have a mic jack.

Edit* Found the 3x here!
http://m.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m

Andy Wilkinson · July 24th, 2012, 10:40 AM

Excellent news about the mic - thanks Min. Just checked - I'm not tired now - its still blummin hot here thought!

Screen grab below from the official spec page on the Canon site. It clearly states 3.5mm mic jack input so that's now nailed. Yippee!

Now all we need is confirmation on the 3x sensor crop (and less useful 10x crop) in video mode and I'll be getting very interested in getting one with that f2 lens - and the EF/EF-S adapter of course (albeit availability on that is even further off).

I'd want the camera in black of course...they don't do pink with green spots - well not yet!

Jon Fairhurst · July 24th, 2012, 10:44 AM

Add an anti-aliasing filter in the body or EF adapter and it could be very interesting.

I like the idea of having a 24/1.4L, 50/1.2L, and 100/2.8L IS with both a full frame and crop body. That would give an effective lens set of 24, 38.4, 50, 80, 100, and 160mm and enable two camera shoots. But for now, the 7D with VAF is the only crop DSLR that doesn't alias, AFAIK.

Chris Hurd · July 24th, 2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Min Lee

Also, the camera does have a mic jack.

Thank you very much for reporting that! Somehow I missed it when I looked through the specs.

Robert Turchick · July 24th, 2012, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Thank you very much for reporting that! Somehow I missed it when I looked through the specs.

I think we all missed it! :) or it wasn't in the documents we read!
I'm still curious why there are 2 HDMI ports.
Guesses?

Jon Fairhurst · July 24th, 2012, 11:35 AM

Does it really have two HDMI ports? Or is this just a matter of...

(1) This is the first item.
(2) This is the second item. There are not two second items.

July 23rd, 2012, 05:23 PM	#17
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July 23rd, 2012, 05:41 PM	#18
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July 23rd, 2012, 07:26 PM	#19
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera If Canon puts clean HDMI output on this a lot of people are going to scream...including me. Yes, these cameras will give GoPro cameras a run. A comparison would be interesting once everything is on the market. Although the new mirrorless is quite a bit more money than GoPro. This is a tough space for Canon to compete for video as the GH2 is so popular and the GH3 is probably not far away. Great to see new camera models.

July 23rd, 2012, 07:46 PM	#20
Charles W. Hull Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canyon Country, CA Posts: 445	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera I have the EFS 17-55 stabilized f/2.8 that's been sitting around waiting for a camera like this. To me it's one of the best Canon zooms, APS-C or not. My difficult question about the EOS M will be what color to get.

July 23rd, 2012, 09:17 PM	#21
Lee Mullen Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Western Australia Posts: 576	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera How does it compare with the Sony RX100 for specs?

July 23rd, 2012, 10:46 PM	#22
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera Why don't you google RX100 specs and report back to us with what you find? The no mic input is the only thing disappointing to me. That would have been a deal maker. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

July 24th, 2012, 01:45 AM	#23
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera Damn. I missed that it had no mic input! Seems a waste to give it manual audio level controls just for using with those top mounted stereo holes. May not be a deal breaker for me, as I would still be using a main cam for the sound capture and just need a reference audio track to help sync the cutaways to. I guess mic input jack is something they are holding back for the higher price market segment that they will aim a semi-pro variant at, sometime in the future. __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

July 24th, 2012, 06:51 AM	#24
Ryan Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 124	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera This looks as compact as their point and shoot cams, with more flexibility. Easier to carry around than the 7D. If its smaller than a GH2, like it looks, I'll be in.

July 24th, 2012, 10:40 AM	#26
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera Excellent news about the mic - thanks Min. Just checked - I'm not tired now - its still blummin hot here thought! Screen grab below from the official spec page on the Canon site. It clearly states 3.5mm mic jack input so that's now nailed. Yippee! Now all we need is confirmation on the 3x sensor crop (and less useful 10x crop) in video mode and I'll be getting very interested in getting one with that f2 lens - and the EF/EF-S adapter of course (albeit availability on that is even further off). I'd want the camera in black of course...they don't do pink with green spots - well not yet! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

July 24th, 2012, 10:44 AM	#27
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera Add an anti-aliasing filter in the body or EF adapter and it could be very interesting. I like the idea of having a 24/1.4L, 50/1.2L, and 100/2.8L IS with both a full frame and crop body. That would give an effective lens set of 24, 38.4, 50, 80, 100, and 160mm and enable two camera shoots. But for now, the 7D with VAF is the only crop DSLR that doesn't alias, AFAIK. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

July 24th, 2012, 11:35 AM	#30
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Re: Canon USA Announces EOS M Mirrorless APS-C Camera Does it really have two HDMI ports? Or is this just a matter of... (1) This is the first item. (2) This is the second item. There are not two second items. __________________ Jon Fairhurst