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APS-C sensor cameras including the 80D, 70D, 7D Mk. II, 7D, EOS M and Rebel models for HD video recording.

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Old May 24th, 2011, 09:56 AM   #1
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What am I doing wrong?

The quality and clarity of my videos have significantly decreased over the past few weeks. I can't seem to pinpoint the issue. When I first started shooting, I had the majority of the settings to default on my camera (T2i). Well my most recent video looks like complete garbage and I can't seem to figure it out.

Here is the first video I made. The colors seem pretty accurate and everything is clear.
YouTube - Dimension Mar 2011 - TMHS

Now this was my most recent video.
YouTube - Event 1, TPA Cup 2011 - TMHS

Can anyone give me any sort of leads as to what I am doing wrong? Shooting in 720 60p, shutter speed of 125 (Normally), using a 70-210 Canon FD lens.

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Old May 24th, 2011, 09:57 AM   #2
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What are the exact specs of your SD card(s)?
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Old May 24th, 2011, 10:44 AM   #3
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Re: What am I doing wrong?

One thing I see is a tremendous difference in daytime lighting conditions between those two samples. I didn't watch them all the way through but the first one evidenced daytime sunlight which is a very clear contrasty kind of light that renders colors well.

The second video appears to have been done on a rainy day, lots of wet ground evident, looks like even some "fog" or mist and I saw at least one person outside the fence holding an umbrella over his head. Both contrast (which affects apparent sharpness) and colors are muted, typical of foggy, rainy conditions.

I don't think anything is wrong with your camera and I don't really think you are doing anything wrong. Weather conditions will OFTEN affect the look of your images.

You mention using a 70-210 FD lens. Most comments I have seen on this on various forums is that adapted FD lenses do not always give acceptable results. Especially if your adapter has some optics in it so you can focus to infinity. Many report visible image degradation from this and it can easily account for the dramatic difference in look between the two segments.

It will ALWAYS tend to look better in sunlight or bright daylight but if the rainy day was not foggy as well that adapter and lens combination could easily account the very "misty" look.

My advice: Get either the Canon EF-S 55-250mm f4 - 5.6 on sale at BH (reg $299) for $199 until mid June. Excellent inexpensive telephoto zoom for the price (I paid $214 for mine refurb), or even the Canon EF 70-200 f4L for $699.

I have both lenses and have never disliked the image quality and tonal values either lens gave me.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 11:35 AM   #4
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Re: What am I doing wrong?

I am using a 16GB which is.. class 4 I think.

Well I would assume that the lighting certainly has an affect on things but it was a little extreme. It was not foggy at all, that's what I don't get. It is as if there was a layer of white put on to everything that I shot. I just wouldn't imagine that the lens has that big of an effect on the final product.

Thank you for your comments, I appreciate it!
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Old May 24th, 2011, 02:30 PM   #5
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Re: What am I doing wrong?

T.J. - How did you get such smooth "slow motions" shots. I editin Vegas and my slow-mo always looks tacky
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Old May 24th, 2011, 02:33 PM   #6
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Re: What am I doing wrong?

I assume you have an adapter to fit the FD lens to the camera, with a lens in it that allows focus to infinity. I am not happy with my experiences so far doing that, certainly at low apertures (1.4/2.8) on some lenses the sharpness is not great, so the picture is not great. Maybe your adapter has a lower quality lens that really struggles when the conditions are not great. If anyone knows who makes the best Canon FD adaptor with the best lens in it, I would like to hear it.

You need to do some manual shooting so you can compare your videos knowing what the camera settings were. What was your ISO? That is important, too
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Old May 24th, 2011, 03:05 PM   #7
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Re: What am I doing wrong?

To me, it looks like second shot were:

1. Maybe shot in a different setting, like in neutral or super flat

2. Or the there was fog on the lens somewhere along the line from condensation.

3. and/or in post, you did something to gain or another level or color correcting setting.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #8
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I am using a 16GB which is.. class 4 I think.
You really need to be using Class 6 cards, to be on the safe side.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #9
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T.J. - How did you get such smooth "slow motions" shots. I editin Vegas and my slow-mo always looks tacky
Hey Rob, I shot all of my footage in 60p. When in post, I slow it down to 30 (29.97). This gives it the smooth slow motion. You can also utilize plug ins like Twixtor which interpolate the frames.

Thanks for all of the feedback guys. It seems I will just struggle until I buy some new equipment. None of my settings were drastically different. My ISO is usually just set to auto, so I don't really know where it was.

And I will look into getting better cards. Thanks for the tip!
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Old May 24th, 2011, 06:55 PM   #10
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Re: What am I doing wrong?

It looks to me like the glass was fogged.
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