Rode Videomic on 7D? at DVinfo.net

Tony Reidsma · May 17th, 2011, 06:38 AM

Please forgive me and be gentle with the flaming....

I have searched all over and I can't seem to get an answer to this question.

I have a 7D (duh) and would like to get clean audio, not perfect, just clean.

- Can I merely plug it into the 7D and use it, and get clean audio?

I do not want to use any hack, just plug'n play.

I do have a Zoom H2 which I like, but it doesn't do a good job for those time when people don't sit still....

Thank you for your help.

Tony

Jon Braeley · May 17th, 2011, 07:12 AM

The Rode has been designed to work with DSLR's so yes - just plugin.

The new Pro version is also a large improvement on the original videomic but I am not sure what you mean by clean?
Without any audio controls on the 7D, the Rode picks up everything and in noisy environments can sound overtaxed.
It's fine for background audio and ambient. Interviews.... not really.

Tony Reidsma · May 17th, 2011, 07:13 AM

Thanks.... I am going to do interviews.. I guess I'll go another route.

Tony

Chris Westerstrom · May 18th, 2011, 04:23 AM

key to getting good audio is getting a mic in the best possible position, I use the RVM on the 7d and it's great, for walk around, pick up someone saying something.
But i only use it for reference sound for interviews. It's far better to record with a lave or connect it to your zoom and get it closer to your subject

Doug Bailey · May 20th, 2011, 10:52 AM

I have the Sennheiser MKE 400 and a lav mic with 20ft cable (about $47) from Radioshack. Both work really well & just plug straight into the 7D, but not at the same time.

You can also buy low cost recorders from RS. For example if you have 3 people you are interviewing you can have 3 low cost lav mics with 3 pocket recorders. Make sure they are all switched on, there is also an on/off switch on the mic. Start your interview with a hand clap (warn the interviewee what you are about to do, you can also get a verbal model release on camera at this time) to sync in post. I started with the Rode Videomic, my Sennheiser is incomparably better and smaller with all switches on the outside.

Hope this helps, also check out the audio section on this forum.

Regards & happy shooting,
Doug.

Marc Brackhahn · May 20th, 2011, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Braeley

The Rode has been designed to work with DSLR's so yes - just plugin.

The new Pro version is also a large improvement on the original videomic but I am not sure what you mean by clean?
Without any audio controls on the 7D, the Rode picks up everything and in noisy environments can sound overtaxed.
It's fine for background audio and ambient. Interviews.... not really.

Do you know if the Rode Stereo Video Mic is better than the Rode Pro Video Mic?

Jackson Wan · May 21st, 2011, 06:04 AM

I also tried a shotgun type mic with 60D.. but the sound quality just doesn't cut it.

Greg Fiske · May 23rd, 2011, 10:08 AM

Get the new one. It has the +20 gain to keep the amps clean on the 7d. The old one will give you hiss once you get the levels up.

Taky Cheung · May 24th, 2011, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Brackhahn

Do you know if the Rode Stereo Video Mic is better than the Rode Pro Video Mic?

If you need a mic to pick up conversation dialog directly, you will need a shotgun mic like VideoMic that reject side and rear noise. Stereo VideoMic is omni-directional which is good for recording with ambient sound, nature sound, or music. it gives a higher fidelity.

I have Rode videomic for sale. We are RODE authorized dealer in the US. It comes with 10 year warranty.

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Chris Westerstrom · May 24th, 2011, 03:58 AM

excellent answer

Marc Brackhahn · May 24th, 2011, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taky Cheung

If you need a mic to pick up conversation dialog directly, you will need a shotgun mic like VideoMic that reject side and rear noise. Stereo VideoMic is omni-directional which is good for recording with ambient sound, nature sound, or music. it gives a higher fidelity.

I have Rode videomic for sale. We are RODE authorized dealer in the US. It comes with 10 year warranty.

RODE VideoMic Directional Condenser Microphone | L.A. Color Online

I can also offer a discount for DVINFO member. Please contact us at info@lacolorOnline.com for more info.

Thanks Taky, I assumed stereo would always be better than mono.

Taky Cheung · May 24th, 2011, 06:29 PM

No... they serves different purpose so not one is better over the other. =)

Daniel Weber · May 27th, 2011, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Bailey

I have the Sennheiser MKE 400 and a lav mic with 20ft cable (about $47) from Radioshack. Both work really well & just plug straight into the 7D, but not at the same time.

You can also buy low cost recorders from RS. For example if you have 3 people you are interviewing you can have 3 low cost lav mics with 3 pocket recorders. Make sure they are all switched on, there is also an on/off switch on the mic. Start your interview with a hand clap (warn the interviewee what you are about to do, you can also get a verbal model release on camera at this time) to sync in post. I started with the Rode Videomic, my Sennheiser is incomparably better and smaller with all switches on the outside.

Hope this helps, also check out the audio section on this forum.

Regards & happy shooting,
Doug.

Sorry Doug, but the Sennheiser 400 is not a better mic than the Rode. Not even close in quality. I own both and have compared the audio. The only advantage of the Sennheiser is the small size. That's it. I am not the only person to say this as well. Most of the well know DSLR shooters will tell you the same thing. Don't mean to flame you, just wanted to put my .02 cents in on this.

Daniel Weber

Andy Wilkinson · May 27th, 2011, 08:59 AM

Lots of info about this in the audio section on DVinfo. Judge the sound quality for yourself - cue Chad's excellent comparative film!

Andy Popple · June 3rd, 2011, 04:57 AM

Andy, that video link was excellent. Chad did a great job. He reaffirmed, for me, my decision to use the Rode mics. The sound produced seems to be the most natural to me. It would be nice if Rode had an auto shutoff/on. Kind of hard to do through a A/V jack I guess. Sometimes I forget to turn mine on or turn it off (yes, I know --use headphone and this will not happen). A price for run and gun shooting I guess. Batteries are cheap.......

On thing I would add is how easily the silicon bands break on the Rode. I am careful with mine and they still seem to break periodically. I have tried alternatives to the Rode bands however everything I try "squeaks" when the mic moves.

:-)

May 17th, 2011, 06:38 AM	#1
Tony Reidsma Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 69	Rode Videomic on 7D? Please forgive me and be gentle with the flaming.... I have searched all over and I can't seem to get an answer to this question. I have a 7D (duh) and would like to get clean audio, not perfect, just clean. - Can I merely plug it into the 7D and use it, and get clean audio? I do not want to use any hack, just plug'n play. I do have a Zoom H2 which I like, but it doesn't do a good job for those time when people don't sit still.... Thank you for your help. Tony

May 17th, 2011, 07:12 AM	#2
Jon Braeley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 528	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? The Rode has been designed to work with DSLR's so yes - just plugin. The new Pro version is also a large improvement on the original videomic but I am not sure what you mean by clean? Without any audio controls on the 7D, the Rode picks up everything and in noisy environments can sound overtaxed. It's fine for background audio and ambient. Interviews.... not really.

May 17th, 2011, 07:13 AM	#3
Tony Reidsma Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 69	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? Thanks.... I am going to do interviews.. I guess I'll go another route. Tony

May 18th, 2011, 04:23 AM	#4
Chris Westerstrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 259	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? key to getting good audio is getting a mic in the best possible position, I use the RVM on the 7d and it's great, for walk around, pick up someone saying something. But i only use it for reference sound for interviews. It's far better to record with a lave or connect it to your zoom and get it closer to your subject

May 20th, 2011, 10:52 AM	#5
Doug Bailey Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 164	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? I have the Sennheiser MKE 400 and a lav mic with 20ft cable (about $47) from Radioshack. Both work really well & just plug straight into the 7D, but not at the same time. You can also buy low cost recorders from RS. For example if you have 3 people you are interviewing you can have 3 low cost lav mics with 3 pocket recorders. Make sure they are all switched on, there is also an on/off switch on the mic. Start your interview with a hand clap (warn the interviewee what you are about to do, you can also get a verbal model release on camera at this time) to sync in post. I started with the Rode Videomic, my Sennheiser is incomparably better and smaller with all switches on the outside. Hope this helps, also check out the audio section on this forum. Regards & happy shooting, Doug. Last edited by Doug Bailey; May 21st, 2011 at 05:24 AM. Reason: Addition

May 21st, 2011, 06:04 AM	#7
Jackson Wan New Boot Join Date: May 2011 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 7	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? I also tried a shotgun type mic with 60D.. but the sound quality just doesn't cut it.

May 23rd, 2011, 10:08 AM	#8
Greg Fiske Major Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Santa Ana, CA Posts: 499	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? Get the new one. It has the +20 gain to keep the amps clean on the 7d. The old one will give you hiss once you get the levels up.

May 24th, 2011, 03:58 AM	#10
Chris Westerstrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 259	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? excellent answer

May 24th, 2011, 06:29 PM	#12
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? No... they serves different purpose so not one is better over the other. =) __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

May 27th, 2011, 08:59 AM	#14
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D (versus other options) Lots of info about this in the audio section on DVinfo. Judge the sound quality for yourself - cue Chad's excellent comparative film! Shootout of the Mini Shotguns! on Vimeo __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

June 3rd, 2011, 04:57 AM	#15
Andy Popple New Boot Join Date: May 2011 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 11	Re: Rode Videomic on 7D? Andy, that video link was excellent. Chad did a great job. He reaffirmed, for me, my decision to use the Rode mics. The sound produced seems to be the most natural to me. It would be nice if Rode had an auto shutoff/on. Kind of hard to do through a A/V jack I guess. Sometimes I forget to turn mine on or turn it off (yes, I know --use headphone and this will not happen). A price for run and gun shooting I guess. Batteries are cheap....... On thing I would add is how easily the silicon bands break on the Rode. I am careful with mine and they still seem to break periodically. I have tried alternatives to the Rode bands however everything I try "squeaks" when the mic moves. :-)