7D or 60D for HD Dslr? at DVinfo.net

Giannis Pass · March 24th, 2011, 03:07 PM

Hello,
i am a wedding videographer and i am thinking to switch to HD Dslr.
I am interesting only to video, not stills. My question is 7D or 60D?
What is the main differences between these two canon's?
And what is your suggestion?

Jon Fairhurst · March 24th, 2011, 03:10 PM

If you will use an external monitor, the 7D is superior. It outputs HD through the HDMI output while recording. If you will use the LCD on the camera, the 60D is superior - the LCD is hinged.

Jim Greene · March 24th, 2011, 03:19 PM

The 7D might have an edge with slightly better image quality, not sure, but it has also been known to have problems with overheating and file corruption. The 60D doesn't have as long a track record, but so far people have said that the 60D does not overheat. This is most likely due to the lcd screen being detached away from the sensor. I do know that I can overheat my T2i before 30 minutes of recording, but when I use Magic Lantern on it and turn the LCD off, it records for over 90 minutes without overheating.

Giannis Pass · March 24th, 2011, 03:23 PM

What about image quality?
Is it true, that 60D limits your ISO usage due to extreme graininess or not?

Bruce Foreman · March 25th, 2011, 01:07 PM

The 60D seems to not allow ISO 12800 in video mode, whereas the 7D does.

That still shouldn't cause any problems especially if one has an f1.8 lens to work with. I highly recommend the Canon EF 28mm f1.8.

Buba Kastorski · March 25th, 2011, 02:07 PM

I wouldn't use ISO 12800 anyways, and with fast lenses you will not be able to tell where is 7D and where is 60D, I prefer 7D just because of it's HDMI out for focusing, in dark receptions with fast lenses and wide aperture to get a sharp focus on that 3" screen - not with my eyesight :)

Spiros Zaharakis · March 26th, 2011, 04:08 AM

The two cameras have identical image quality, the 60D doesn't overheat, has manual audio levels, hinged screen, uses cheaper SD cards, lower price.
The 7D outputs HD on HDMI while recording (making it very suitable for external monitor use), has better build quality (the 60D isn not bad either), better AF (for stills), shoots more fps (for stills), uses more expensive but sturdy CF cards, costs more.
In my humble opinion the 60D is the better camera for video unless you plan on using it with an HD external monitor.

Both will be noise free up to ISO1250, will be fine up to ISO1600 and at ISO3200 will still be a bit better than a Z5 @ +9db

Giannis Pass · March 26th, 2011, 06:07 AM

is there a video out on 60d that i can use external monitor?
Also, to change the settings( apperture..... etc), is there external buttons as 7D or i have to go into menu?

J.J. Kim · March 26th, 2011, 07:43 AM

I have both 7D and 60D. moving to 60D as my main cam for this wedding season.
I bought Marshall 5" HDMI and cheap 7" monitor from COOLLCD - On Camera LCD Monitor, LCD Field Monitor, Video Field Monitor, HD Field Monitor,.
Review video is on the way, but I have to test out a couple of things first.
Yes, 7D puts out (close to) full screen on Marshall, but can't read the damn recording time. If I put on info on LCD, it will crop down.
ON the other hand, 60D will let me navigate around with info button, but slightly cropped (not 480i cropped, though. slightly bigger).
Again, I am borrowing SmallHD DP6 as well from director friend of mine, and will put those 3 for a side to side comparison.
Look out for status update on JJ_Orange | Facebook

For camera-wise, I have no problem with 60D whatsoever. But 7D, I had several corrupted files incident last year with SanDisk, so I am switching to Lexar (which I've heard no problem with corruptions).
Swivel LCD really kicks ass, and I do not see any image quality difference between those two.
Hope that helps.

JJ

J.J. Kim · March 26th, 2011, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giannis Pass

is there a video out on 60d that i can use external monitor?
Also, to change the settings( apperture..... etc), is there external buttons as 7D or i have to go into menu?

Shutter speed, aperture, iso, white balance (on Q button, no designated WB button), they are all changeable via buttons.

you can look at the photo to compare button layouts.
IMG_9536 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
(look at it on full res)

Chris Westerstrom · March 26th, 2011, 12:40 PM

my brother has the 60d, with manual sound, flip out lcd, no overheating and so on, it seems like a better buy for video.
For stills 7d is slightly better, but if I was a still photog, I'd have skipped the 7d and jumped to the 5d anyway.

Personally, I have the 7d and am a bit disappointed.
All the new models seem to have so much more bang for the buck, especially since ML has been able to crack them and offer them some amazing software.
I've shot with the 5d and think it's considerably better as well, especially in low light, but it does require more expensive lenses across the board.

Seems odd that Canon put so much effort in to protect the 7d but they offer no great software solutions or updates themselves. It's really annoying that we haven't seen some new features that cameras half the price have.

Alan Halfhill · March 30th, 2011, 01:00 AM

Had a 7D, sold it. Now 60D, Nuff said.

Jeff Troiano · March 30th, 2011, 07:29 AM

I didn't want to start a new thread, and thought this might be slightly relevant here. I've been saving for a 7D, and have been in the same debate, 7D or 60D. I noticed the last few days the 7Ds have been out of stock on B&H and Adorama, and the prices for the different resellers on Amazon have jumped about $500 or $600 more then they were.

Would this have something to do with the disaster in Japan? Any chance they are going to bring out a new model, and they've sold out of existing stock much sooner then they thought? I would love a 5D, and if they bring out a new model in that, by the time I have my money together, I will go that route. Til them, I am still torn between 7D and 60D. I want for both video and Stills, but don't want to go for a 5D unless a new model emerges.

Chris Westerstrom · March 30th, 2011, 07:42 AM

i am a 7d owner as you can see in what I wrote above.
My brother has the 60d and a company I work for has the 5d

If I were to buy today, primarily for videos, 60d no question. Maybe even t2 with magic lantern stuff.

For stills and video, I'd skip it all and go 5d only.
It's by far a better stills camera. Video is noticeably better in low light as well.

Azadul Haq · April 11th, 2011, 01:00 PM

Hi Folks,

I am thinking about getting a 60D as my second camera. I am using Sony HVR Z7U for the longer shoots and main camera. I some time have 3-4 hours long shoots in a day.

What others gears do you use along with 60D for video shoots? Such as any stabilizers, lights, Zacuto, follow focus etc all the time?

I have Zoom H4N, Rode mic, booms etc. that I can use. I am just looking for those shallow dof shots to blend in with my other footage.

Since I have couple of Nikon prime lens, can I use them in the Canon with an adaptor without any known issues?

These are lots of questions, but I need you advices before maiking any decision,. I appreciate your advices.

Thanks in advance.

March 24th, 2011, 03:07 PM	#1
Giannis Pass Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 120	7D or 60D for HD Dslr? Hello, i am a wedding videographer and i am thinking to switch to HD Dslr. I am interesting only to video, not stills. My question is 7D or 60D? What is the main differences between these two canon's? And what is your suggestion?

March 24th, 2011, 03:10 PM	#2
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? If you will use an external monitor, the 7D is superior. It outputs HD through the HDMI output while recording. If you will use the LCD on the camera, the 60D is superior - the LCD is hinged. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

March 24th, 2011, 03:19 PM	#3
Jim Greene Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 74	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? The 7D might have an edge with slightly better image quality, not sure, but it has also been known to have problems with overheating and file corruption. The 60D doesn't have as long a track record, but so far people have said that the 60D does not overheat. This is most likely due to the lcd screen being detached away from the sensor. I do know that I can overheat my T2i before 30 minutes of recording, but when I use Magic Lantern on it and turn the LCD off, it records for over 90 minutes without overheating.

March 24th, 2011, 03:23 PM	#4
Giannis Pass Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 120	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? What about image quality? Is it true, that 60D limits your ISO usage due to extreme graininess or not?

March 25th, 2011, 01:07 PM	#5
Bruce Foreman Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Angelo Texas Posts: 1,518	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? The 60D seems to not allow ISO 12800 in video mode, whereas the 7D does. That still shouldn't cause any problems especially if one has an f1.8 lens to work with. I highly recommend the Canon EF 28mm f1.8.

March 25th, 2011, 02:07 PM	#6
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? I wouldn't use ISO 12800 anyways, and with fast lenses you will not be able to tell where is 7D and where is 60D, I prefer 7D just because of it's HDMI out for focusing, in dark receptions with fast lenses and wide aperture to get a sharp focus on that 3" screen - not with my eyesight :) __________________ I love this place!

March 26th, 2011, 04:08 AM	#7
Spiros Zaharakis Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 171	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? The two cameras have identical image quality, the 60D doesn't overheat, has manual audio levels, hinged screen, uses cheaper SD cards, lower price. The 7D outputs HD on HDMI while recording (making it very suitable for external monitor use), has better build quality (the 60D isn not bad either), better AF (for stills), shoots more fps (for stills), uses more expensive but sturdy CF cards, costs more. In my humble opinion the 60D is the better camera for video unless you plan on using it with an HD external monitor. Both will be noise free up to ISO1250, will be fine up to ISO1600 and at ISO3200 will still be a bit better than a Z5 @ +9db

March 26th, 2011, 06:07 AM	#8
Giannis Pass Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 120	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? is there a video out on 60d that i can use external monitor? Also, to change the settings( apperture..... etc), is there external buttons as 7D or i have to go into menu?

March 26th, 2011, 07:43 AM	#9
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? I have both 7D and 60D. moving to 60D as my main cam for this wedding season. I bought Marshall 5" HDMI and cheap 7" monitor from COOLLCD - On Camera LCD Monitor, LCD Field Monitor, Video Field Monitor, HD Field Monitor,. Review video is on the way, but I have to test out a couple of things first. Yes, 7D puts out (close to) full screen on Marshall, but can't read the damn recording time. If I put on info on LCD, it will crop down. ON the other hand, 60D will let me navigate around with info button, but slightly cropped (not 480i cropped, though. slightly bigger). Again, I am borrowing SmallHD DP6 as well from director friend of mine, and will put those 3 for a side to side comparison. Look out for status update on JJ_Orange \| Facebook For camera-wise, I have no problem with 60D whatsoever. But 7D, I had several corrupted files incident last year with SanDisk, so I am switching to Lexar (which I've heard no problem with corruptions). Swivel LCD really kicks ass, and I do not see any image quality difference between those two. Hope that helps. JJ

March 26th, 2011, 12:40 PM	#11
Chris Westerstrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 259	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? my brother has the 60d, with manual sound, flip out lcd, no overheating and so on, it seems like a better buy for video. For stills 7d is slightly better, but if I was a still photog, I'd have skipped the 7d and jumped to the 5d anyway. Personally, I have the 7d and am a bit disappointed. All the new models seem to have so much more bang for the buck, especially since ML has been able to crack them and offer them some amazing software. I've shot with the 5d and think it's considerably better as well, especially in low light, but it does require more expensive lenses across the board. Seems odd that Canon put so much effort in to protect the 7d but they offer no great software solutions or updates themselves. It's really annoying that we haven't seen some new features that cameras half the price have.

March 30th, 2011, 01:00 AM	#12
Alan Halfhill Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sequim, WA Posts: 127	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? Had a 7D, sold it. Now 60D, Nuff said.

March 30th, 2011, 07:29 AM	#13
Jeff Troiano Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 480	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? I didn't want to start a new thread, and thought this might be slightly relevant here. I've been saving for a 7D, and have been in the same debate, 7D or 60D. I noticed the last few days the 7Ds have been out of stock on B&H and Adorama, and the prices for the different resellers on Amazon have jumped about $500 or $600 more then they were. Would this have something to do with the disaster in Japan? Any chance they are going to bring out a new model, and they've sold out of existing stock much sooner then they thought? I would love a 5D, and if they bring out a new model in that, by the time I have my money together, I will go that route. Til them, I am still torn between 7D and 60D. I want for both video and Stills, but don't want to go for a 5D unless a new model emerges.

March 30th, 2011, 07:42 AM	#14
Chris Westerstrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 259	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? i am a 7d owner as you can see in what I wrote above. My brother has the 60d and a company I work for has the 5d If I were to buy today, primarily for videos, 60d no question. Maybe even t2 with magic lantern stuff. For stills and video, I'd skip it all and go 5d only. It's by far a better stills camera. Video is noticeably better in low light as well.

April 11th, 2011, 01:00 PM	#15
Azadul Haq Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 34	Re: 7D or 60D for HD Dslr? Hi Folks, I am thinking about getting a 60D as my second camera. I am using Sony HVR Z7U for the longer shoots and main camera. I some time have 3-4 hours long shoots in a day. What others gears do you use along with 60D for video shoots? Such as any stabilizers, lights, Zacuto, follow focus etc all the time? I have Zoom H4N, Rode mic, booms etc. that I can use. I am just looking for those shallow dof shots to blend in with my other footage. Since I have couple of Nikon prime lens, can I use them in the Canon with an adaptor without any known issues? These are lots of questions, but I need you advices before maiking any decision,. I appreciate your advices. Thanks in advance.