60D video questions at DVinfo.net

Steve Mullen · January 9th, 2011, 09:00 PM

The 60D does not have shutter priority so as I understand it when you must before shooting video go into the menu and set shutter speed and use cheesy back dial to set the aperture. So that means button press to get to menu. The button presses to select MANUAL. Then set speed and aperture. Then exit menu.

Now you can press shutter half way to get AF which takes another second

Now press record. Now press again to stop.

Then you once again have to go into the menu system in order to set an aperture for the next shot.

This sounds too crazy to be true. Is it correct?

When you leave video MODE are your shutter speed and aperture settings lost?

And, does exposure comp work in video mode? I think not, but if it does -- does it alter speed (NOT ACCEPTBLE) and/or aperture? If EC worked on just the aperture you could set a base aperture in the menu and then use the EC dial before each shot to set the correct exposure!

Am I correct that you can only see what you are shooting via the LCD? Which means no VF in the sun? In fact, in the sun you will be unable to see what settings you are making because both back and top LCDs will be washed out.

Lastly, is the little top LCD back lit?

Rainer Listing · January 10th, 2011, 06:52 PM

Hi Steve
No-one ever claimed DSLRs were perfect for video. But they are not as bad as all that. You set the framerate, size, mode to manual in the menu (only use menu once). Then dial up your shutter speed with the thumb dial on top and the aperture with the cheesy thumb wheel on the back. AF is not compulsory, but it can be live. Like every other video cam you press record to stop and start. Yes, you can't use the EVF for video. To shoot in bright sunlight you can boost the LCD brightness but it's better if you cover yourself and the camera with a dark blanket. Users more commonly squint while looking closely at the screen, or use a loupe or monitor. And then you have to worry about dual sound. Aperture and shutter speed are retained when you switch modes or turn off the camera. There's a little button with a lightbulb near the top of the LCD which let's you illuminate it. If you're asking because you wonder whether or not to buy one, don't hesitate, buy one, you will totally love it.

Sam Kanter · January 10th, 2011, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Mullen

The 60D does not have shutter priority so as I understand it when you must before shooting video go into the menu and set shutter speed and use cheesy back dial to set the aperture. So that means button press to get to menu. The button presses to select MANUAL. Then set speed and aperture. Then exit menu.

Now you can press shutter half way to get AF which takes another second

Now press record. Now press again to stop.

Then you once again have to go into the menu system in order to set an aperture for the next shot.

This sounds too crazy to be true. Is it correct?

When you leave video MODE are your shutter speed and aperture settings lost?

And, does exposure comp work in video mode? I think not, but if it does -- does it alter speed (NOT ACCEPTBLE) and/or aperture? If EC worked on just the aperture you could set a base aperture in the menu and then use the EC dial before each shot to set the correct exposure!

Am I correct that you can only see what you are shooting via the LCD? Which means no VF in the sun? In fact, in the sun you will be unable to see what settings you are making because both back and top LCDs will be washed out.

Lastly, is the little top LCD back lit?

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/9/030000...s60d-im-en.pdf

Rainer Listing · January 11th, 2011, 12:46 AM

Ah yes... the manual. But it doesn't mention focus blankets (actually, I'm really posting to correct my earlier post point about live focus which it wont let me edit - although it can say live focus on the LCD you do actually have to depress the shutter button to AF in video mode).

Stelios Christofides · January 11th, 2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Mullen

The 60D does not have shutter priority so as I understand it when you must before shooting video go into the menu and set shutter speed and use cheesy back dial to set the aperture. So that means button press to get to menu. The button presses to select MANUAL. Then set speed and aperture. Then exit menu.

Now you can press shutter half way to get AF which takes another second

Now press record. Now press again to stop.

Then you once again have to go into the menu system in order to set an aperture for the next shot.

This sounds too crazy to be true. Is it correct?

When you leave video MODE are your shutter speed and aperture settings lost?

And, does exposure comp work in video mode? I think not, but if it does -- does it alter speed (NOT ACCEPTBLE) and/or aperture? If EC worked on just the aperture you could set a base aperture in the menu and then use the EC dial before each shot to set the correct exposure!

Am I correct that you can only see what you are shooting via the LCD? Which means no VF in the sun? In fact, in the sun you will be unable to see what settings you are making because both back and top LCDs will be washed out.

Lastly, is the little top LCD back lit?

I agree with you Steve. Although the video capabilities of the DSLR cameras is great I still believe that (at least with this generation of DSLRs) if you want to shoot video use a camcorder, if you want to shoot photos use a camera. Video in DSLR is an accessory to the video camera.

Stelios

Sam Kanter · January 23rd, 2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stelios Christofides

I agree with you Steve. Although the video capabilities of the DSLR cameras is great I still believe that (at least with this generation of DSLRs) if you want to shoot video use a camcorder, if you want to shoot photos use a camera. Video in DSLR is an accessory to the video camera.

Stelios

Can you show me a video camera with interchangeable lenses, 35mm-size sensor and tremendous low-light capability for under $50,000?

This is why filmmakers are willing to work around issues with video in DSLRs, and why DSLRs are a revelation for independent filmmakers.

If you are a -novice- at video and want home movies of your kids playing soccer, you are better off with a cheap camcorder. And, you may as well get a point-and-shoot for stills as well.

Jon Fairhurst · January 23rd, 2011, 10:44 PM

Under $50k? RED ONE. And soon, Epic-S. Though they still aren't cheap.

For most of us, these are viable rentals, while we can own a DSLR 365 days a year. Personally, I like owning a shooting on a DSLR to build skill and vision. The day I want to do that special, well-scheduled project, I'll be ready to rent a RED.

Sam Kanter · January 27th, 2011, 09:02 PM

Red One, with a few lenses and accessories could approach $50,000. In any case - it's a rental. How much is rental for a week?

I think I'll stick with my 60D...

January 9th, 2011, 09:00 PM	#1
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	60D video questions The 60D does not have shutter priority so as I understand it when you must before shooting video go into the menu and set shutter speed and use cheesy back dial to set the aperture. So that means button press to get to menu. The button presses to select MANUAL. Then set speed and aperture. Then exit menu. Now you can press shutter half way to get AF which takes another second Now press record. Now press again to stop. Then you once again have to go into the menu system in order to set an aperture for the next shot. This sounds too crazy to be true. Is it correct? When you leave video MODE are your shutter speed and aperture settings lost? And, does exposure comp work in video mode? I think not, but if it does -- does it alter speed (NOT ACCEPTBLE) and/or aperture? If EC worked on just the aperture you could set a base aperture in the menu and then use the EC dial before each shot to set the correct exposure! Am I correct that you can only see what you are shooting via the LCD? Which means no VF in the sun? In fact, in the sun you will be unable to see what settings you are making because both back and top LCDs will be washed out. Lastly, is the little top LCD back lit? __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

January 23rd, 2011, 10:44 PM	#7
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Under $50k? RED ONE. And soon, Epic-S. Though they still aren't cheap. For most of us, these are viable rentals, while we can own a DSLR 365 days a year. Personally, I like owning a shooting on a DSLR to build skill and vision. The day I want to do that special, well-scheduled project, I'll be ready to rent a RED. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

January 10th, 2011, 06:52 PM	#2
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Hi Steve No-one ever claimed DSLRs were perfect for video. But they are not as bad as all that. You set the framerate, size, mode to manual in the menu (only use menu once). Then dial up your shutter speed with the thumb dial on top and the aperture with the cheesy thumb wheel on the back. AF is not compulsory, but it can be live. Like every other video cam you press record to stop and start. Yes, you can't use the EVF for video. To shoot in bright sunlight you can boost the LCD brightness but it's better if you cover yourself and the camera with a dark blanket. Users more commonly squint while looking closely at the screen, or use a loupe or monitor. And then you have to worry about dual sound. Aperture and shutter speed are retained when you switch modes or turn off the camera. There's a little button with a lightbulb near the top of the LCD which let's you illuminate it. If you're asking because you wonder whether or not to buy one, don't hesitate, buy one, you will totally love it.

January 11th, 2011, 12:46 AM	#4
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Ah yes... the manual. But it doesn't mention focus blankets (actually, I'm really posting to correct my earlier post point about live focus which it wont let me edit - although it can say live focus on the LCD you do actually have to depress the shutter button to AF in video mode).

January 27th, 2011, 09:02 PM	#8
Sam Kanter Major Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 205	Red One, with a few lenses and accessories could approach $50,000. In any case - it's a rental. How much is rental for a week? I think I'll stick with my 60D...