T2i + Sigma 18-250mm + XH-A1 Lens Hood at DVinfo.net

Taky Cheung · August 12th, 2010, 01:42 AM

It was back in 2007 I first discovered the XH-A1 lens hood can used with Canon WD-H43 and Raynox WA lens making the HV30 looks so awesome! I bought a Sigma 18-250mm Lens. It also has a 72mm front diameter. I tried the XH-A1 lens hood on it.. it is a snug fit! The screw on the hood can also be tightened. Looks great!!

T2i with Sigma 18-250mm Lens and XH-A1 Lens Hood | L.A. Color Blog

Galen Rath · August 13th, 2010, 08:28 PM

Taky, what percentage of your video time is spent using this lens?

Taky Cheung · August 13th, 2010, 08:29 PM

100% very likely.. but I just ordered the Tokina 11-16mm. I might be switching back and forth. But for now, this lens 18-250mm range is good.

Taky Cheung · August 13th, 2010, 08:53 PM

New pics with the rail

Jonathan W. Hickman · August 15th, 2010, 10:19 AM

I like the look of this rig, however, how important is it to have such a "video" looking lens hood on your camera?

I shoot a weekly TV show with a couple T2is as well as small commercial and web video projects.

When we use hoods, I use the collapsible rubber ones. I use screw on filters when shooting outside as well and they work with the rubber hoods.

But frankly, in most inside shoots, I don't need a hood. With my old Pentax m42 lenses, I use old hoods that screw onto those lenses. Other than helping with light spill (tell me if that is right), I think that those metal hoods help protect the lens, but the rubber ones have a cushioned give to them which is helpful.

What I see with my fellow filmmakers is a desire to make the DSLR look like a video camera to impress potential clients. I understand that, but the look is more important on the video not necessarily on the camera.

Taky Cheung · August 15th, 2010, 10:21 AM

Added an external monitor.. but not so sure I will keep it =)

Taky Cheung · August 15th, 2010, 10:31 AM

Jonathan, it always bring good discussion on this topic..:) do I really need to pimp my gear just for the professional look? To me (and in my opinion), it is a must. I do weddings. I have to use professional equipment for paid jobs. Also I need to show my clients I'm using better equipment than the bride's uncle is shooting with. I know it's all your skills and final work deliverable that counts. But on the wedding day, I need to impress my next potential customers too. =)

Since I'm using an entry level T2i camera, I need to pimp it up =) Besides, my XH-A1 lens hood is just sitting there. Why not mount it up.

In your situation, you don't need a lens hood as you can always adjust your angle and position when you shoot commercials or web projects. However, I have done so many wedding ceremony that all the audience is look at the sun directly. Recently, I did this wedding I was actually holding the "program" on top of the camera to block the gear. Still you can see the glare was very bad (0:51)

Galen Rath · August 15th, 2010, 12:50 PM

Keep sharing, Taky, and thanks, it's nice to get some extra mileage out of our investments. Sometimes you need a DSLR doing video to look like a still camera, sometimes it's good for it to look like a video camera, depends on the crowd you are in. As for needing a hood, I've too often thought I didn't need it on and was unexpectedly pull outside, hence, better to just have it on all the time. Also a hard hood is good for shielding the camera nose against bumps.

Taky Cheung · August 15th, 2010, 12:53 PM

Glad to share! Most of the time I don't find the hood has any use. However, it doesn't help a lot when shooting outdoor around 4pm to 7pm when the sun is setting. Sometime lens flare is pretty... but too often it becomes so distracting...

oh worst was the Raynox 6600 lens I have on HV30. The lens flare actually make the lens reading (diameter, focal length, F stop... those numbers on the front ring of the lens) on the Raynox reflected and be recorded to the footage.

Taky Cheung · August 15th, 2010, 12:55 PM

Btw, Here's a breakdown of the cost

T2i ($799)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/675617-REG/Canon_4462B001_Canon_EOS_Rebel_T2i.html

Battery grip ($159)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/676247-REG/Canon_4516B001.html

Light and sound bracket ($33)
Light and Sound Video Bracket | L.A. Color Shop

Flash bracket ($21)
Universal Camera Bracket with Accessory Shoe | L.A. Color Shop

Sigma 18-250mm Lens ($478)

Amazon.com: Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM IF Lens for Canon Digital SLR…

Lens hood ($33)
Lens Hood for Canon XH Series Camcorder | L.A. Color Shop

Rode VideoMic ($123)
http://www.jacksmusicfactory.com/che...quoteID=90162Q (best price to get... Jack is very reliable)

Comer 1800 LED light ($389)
Comer CM-LBPS1800 On-Camera LED Light | L.A. Color Shop

Sandisk 16GB Class 6 SDHC ($61)

Amazon.com: SanDisk 16GB Extreme HD Video - SDHC Class 6 High Performance memory card…

LP-E8 Battery ($23)
LP-E8 Canon Compatible Li-Ion Battery | L.A. Color Shop

External LCD monitor ($184)
7" LCD Monitor Kit w/ Shoe Mount & Battery Adapter

Only I'm returning the external monitor .. as it doesn't help much in focusing since it is in SD resolution. Also, mounting it with all the wires and additional battery adapter is a pain.

Sigmund Reboquio · August 17th, 2010, 01:57 PM

Tacky,
Pimping it is really nice, however, if you'll be using this rig for the wedding (even just for the ceremony) you might find it really heavy, especially with extra batteries on board.

Taky Cheung · August 17th, 2010, 01:58 PM

haha.. it's on tripod.. I am using XH-A1 with wide angle lens and other attachment. It's heavy.. I can handle that =)

Jonathan W. Hickman · August 18th, 2010, 04:38 PM

Taky, I like your work and I once had the Sony HD1000U for this very purpose.

One way I kinda tricked out the T2i is to add a battery grip. Of course, it is great to have one. But the camera looks and feels more substantial and robust. Below the battery grip is my Beachtek DSLR adapter (the one that spoofs the AGC). Around the camera I have a large flash bracket with my wireless mics and a Sony video light in the middle. It is pretty substantial and all of you have rigged the camera similarly.

While I'm considering a lens hood that looks like it is for video, I'm interested in a hood that works. The old video style ones may not necessarily be the best for the DSLR. Can you address whether the video style hood is superior to the rubber DSLR ones?

A filmmaker friend of mine bought a very substantial matte box for his 7D on ebay and I was licking my chops over it. It seemed to be very functional. Your comment about using the program is very telling. We've all done exactly that over the years. But a matte box with dog-ears is clearly the way to go.

I've only shot one wedding and it was on the beach. I used a couple filters and came out okay. I was way lucky.

Mainly, I'm shooting under very controlled conditions. So your points are well made.

The great thing about this forum is we can let it all hang out.

My latest venture is to use Skype to do video interviews with filmmakers. Here's a clip from the first of such interviews:

<embed src="http://blip.tv/play/hb0ygfWleQA%2Em4v" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed>

Note that this interview features a nice discussion about using the DSLR in filmmaking.

That first attempt was very rough. I'm thinking about using one of my old Sony video cams as a studio camera and then just capture the incoming stream from the subject from Skype. To trick out my set, I'm going to have both my T2i's on tripods in the background. The DSLRs become props!

Anyway, thanks for being very open in this discussion.

Jonathan W. Hickman · August 18th, 2010, 04:39 PM

Here's the link to that interview that I tried to embed. Sorry, I never tried embedding to this forum before: http://blip.tv/file/3999938

Jonathan W. Hickman · August 18th, 2010, 04:41 PM

Sorry again, I used the link to my dashboard. Here's the interview link: The Film Fix Interview: Filmmaker Jesse Rosten Part 2

August 12th, 2010, 01:42 AM	#1
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	T2i + Sigma 18-250mm + XH-A1 Lens Hood It was back in 2007 I first discovered the XH-A1 lens hood can used with Canon WD-H43 and Raynox WA lens making the HV30 looks so awesome! I bought a Sigma 18-250mm Lens. It also has a 72mm front diameter. I tried the XH-A1 lens hood on it.. it is a snug fit! The screw on the hood can also be tightened. Looks great!! T2i with Sigma 18-250mm Lens and XH-A1 Lens Hood \| L.A. Color Blog Attached Thumbnails __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 13th, 2010, 08:29 PM	#3
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	100% very likely.. but I just ordered the Tokina 11-16mm. I might be switching back and forth. But for now, this lens 18-250mm range is good. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 13th, 2010, 08:53 PM	#4
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	New pics with the rail Attached Thumbnails __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 15th, 2010, 10:21 AM	#6
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Added an external monitor.. but not so sure I will keep it =) Attached Thumbnails __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 15th, 2010, 10:31 AM	#7
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Jonathan, it always bring good discussion on this topic..:) do I really need to pimp my gear just for the professional look? To me (and in my opinion), it is a must. I do weddings. I have to use professional equipment for paid jobs. Also I need to show my clients I'm using better equipment than the bride's uncle is shooting with. I know it's all your skills and final work deliverable that counts. But on the wedding day, I need to impress my next potential customers too. =) Since I'm using an entry level T2i camera, I need to pimp it up =) Besides, my XH-A1 lens hood is just sitting there. Why not mount it up. In your situation, you don't need a lens hood as you can always adjust your angle and position when you shoot commercials or web projects. However, I have done so many wedding ceremony that all the audience is look at the sun directly. Recently, I did this wedding I was actually holding the "program" on top of the camera to block the gear. Still you can see the glare was very bad (0:51) Onboard Shotgun Mic vs Sound Recorder with Wired Lav Mic on Vimeo __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 13th, 2010, 08:28 PM	#2
Galen Rath Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 323	Taky, what percentage of your video time is spent using this lens?

August 15th, 2010, 10:19 AM	#5
Jonathan W. Hickman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: United States Posts: 81	I like the look of this rig, however, how important is it to have such a "video" looking lens hood on your camera? I shoot a weekly TV show with a couple T2is as well as small commercial and web video projects. When we use hoods, I use the collapsible rubber ones. I use screw on filters when shooting outside as well and they work with the rubber hoods. But frankly, in most inside shoots, I don't need a hood. With my old Pentax m42 lenses, I use old hoods that screw onto those lenses. Other than helping with light spill (tell me if that is right), I think that those metal hoods help protect the lens, but the rubber ones have a cushioned give to them which is helpful. What I see with my fellow filmmakers is a desire to make the DSLR look like a video camera to impress potential clients. I understand that, but the look is more important on the video not necessarily on the camera.

August 15th, 2010, 12:50 PM	#8
Galen Rath Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 323	Keep sharing, Taky, and thanks, it's nice to get some extra mileage out of our investments. Sometimes you need a DSLR doing video to look like a still camera, sometimes it's good for it to look like a video camera, depends on the crowd you are in. As for needing a hood, I've too often thought I didn't need it on and was unexpectedly pull outside, hence, better to just have it on all the time. Also a hard hood is good for shielding the camera nose against bumps.

August 15th, 2010, 12:53 PM	#9
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Glad to share! Most of the time I don't find the hood has any use. However, it doesn't help a lot when shooting outdoor around 4pm to 7pm when the sun is setting. Sometime lens flare is pretty... but too often it becomes so distracting... oh worst was the Raynox 6600 lens I have on HV30. The lens flare actually make the lens reading (diameter, focal length, F stop... those numbers on the front ring of the lens) on the Raynox reflected and be recorded to the footage. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 15th, 2010, 12:55 PM	#10
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	Btw, Here's a breakdown of the cost T2i ($799) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/675617-REG/Canon_4462B001_Canon_EOS_Rebel_T2i.html Battery grip ($159) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/676247-REG/Canon_4516B001.html Light and sound bracket ($33) Light and Sound Video Bracket \| L.A. Color Shop Flash bracket ($21) Universal Camera Bracket with Accessory Shoe \| L.A. Color Shop Sigma 18-250mm Lens ($478) Amazon.com: Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM IF Lens for Canon Digital SLR… Amazon.com: Sigma 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 DC OS HSM IF Lens for Canon Digital SLR… Lens hood ($33) Lens Hood for Canon XH Series Camcorder \| L.A. Color Shop Rode VideoMic ($123) http://www.jacksmusicfactory.com/che...quoteID=90162Q (best price to get... Jack is very reliable) Comer 1800 LED light ($389) Comer CM-LBPS1800 On-Camera LED Light \| L.A. Color Shop Sandisk 16GB Class 6 SDHC ($61) Amazon.com: SanDisk 16GB Extreme HD Video - SDHC Class 6 High Performance memory card… Amazon.com: SanDisk 16GB Extreme HD Video - SDHC Class 6 High Performance memory card… LP-E8 Battery ($23) LP-E8 Canon Compatible Li-Ion Battery \| L.A. Color Shop External LCD monitor ($184) 7" LCD Monitor Kit w/ Shoe Mount & Battery Adapter Only I'm returning the external monitor .. as it doesn't help much in focusing since it is in SD resolution. Also, mounting it with all the wires and additional battery adapter is a pain. __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 17th, 2010, 01:57 PM	#11
Sigmund Reboquio Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 212	Tacky, Pimping it is really nice, however, if you'll be using this rig for the wedding (even just for the ceremony) you might find it really heavy, especially with extra batteries on board. __________________ Bay Area Wedding Videographerwww.reb6studios.com

August 17th, 2010, 01:58 PM	#12
Taky Cheung Inner Circle Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 2,114	haha.. it's on tripod.. I am using XH-A1 with wide angle lens and other attachment. It's heavy.. I can handle that =) __________________ LA Color Pros Blog RODE Authorized Reseller . Comer LED Camera Lights . TakyBox HTML5 Menu Generator

August 18th, 2010, 04:38 PM	#13
Jonathan W. Hickman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: United States Posts: 81	Taky, I like your work and I once had the Sony HD1000U for this very purpose. One way I kinda tricked out the T2i is to add a battery grip. Of course, it is great to have one. But the camera looks and feels more substantial and robust. Below the battery grip is my Beachtek DSLR adapter (the one that spoofs the AGC). Around the camera I have a large flash bracket with my wireless mics and a Sony video light in the middle. It is pretty substantial and all of you have rigged the camera similarly. While I'm considering a lens hood that looks like it is for video, I'm interested in a hood that works. The old video style ones may not necessarily be the best for the DSLR. Can you address whether the video style hood is superior to the rubber DSLR ones? A filmmaker friend of mine bought a very substantial matte box for his 7D on ebay and I was licking my chops over it. It seemed to be very functional. Your comment about using the program is very telling. We've all done exactly that over the years. But a matte box with dog-ears is clearly the way to go. I've only shot one wedding and it was on the beach. I used a couple filters and came out okay. I was way lucky. Mainly, I'm shooting under very controlled conditions. So your points are well made. The great thing about this forum is we can let it all hang out. My latest venture is to use Skype to do video interviews with filmmakers. Here's a clip from the first of such interviews: <embed src="http://blip.tv/play/hb0ygfWleQA%2Em4v" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed> Note that this interview features a nice discussion about using the DSLR in filmmaking. That first attempt was very rough. I'm thinking about using one of my old Sony video cams as a studio camera and then just capture the incoming stream from the subject from Skype. To trick out my set, I'm going to have both my T2i's on tripods in the background. The DSLRs become props! Anyway, thanks for being very open in this discussion.

August 18th, 2010, 04:39 PM	#14
Jonathan W. Hickman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: United States Posts: 81	Here's the link to that interview that I tried to embed. Sorry, I never tried embedding to this forum before: http://blip.tv/file/3999938 Last edited by Jonathan W. Hickman; August 18th, 2010 at 04:41 PM. Reason: Wrong link...

August 18th, 2010, 04:41 PM	#15
Jonathan W. Hickman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: United States Posts: 81	Sorry again, I used the link to my dashboard. Here's the interview link: The Film Fix Interview: Filmmaker Jesse Rosten Part 2