Backup camera for my 7D (Canon HV or HF series) at DVinfo.net

Johannes Soetandi · June 9th, 2010, 09:21 PM

I'm considering to buy a HDV camera for a backup of my 7D used on wedding. Last wedding we use 2 7Ds and a HV40, sharp image quality and liking it very much. We don't use it for wedding highlight but might use it for few full-day edit footage.

However a few question I have (I'm not really a camera expert so an input or two would be greatly appreciated!):

1. What is the quality of HF series compared to HV? HF uses HDD which is a big advantage as I hate having to change tape during ceremony.

2. If I'm buying from US (NTSC), using it in Australia (PAL), will I have any problem editing on FCP and combining with my 7D PAL footage? Cost of the camera here in Australia is ridiculously expensive!

I'm still hiring HV40 for backup camera at the moment. But all that money.. I'd rather buy one for myself as price from US is getting affordable.

Cheers,

John

Jim Martin · June 10th, 2010, 11:03 AM

If you want the same look, buy another 7D. If you want a more user friendly camera and you like the look of the HV40, then I'd suggest the XH-A1s....3 chips better color and depth-of picture, XLRs, cine gamma, etc. Here in LA, you can take the A1s down to Canon in Irvine, pay them $500, and they will turn the PAL side on so you'll have both! As for the XFs, in your situation, I don't see the justification to spend the extra money.

Jim Martin
Filmtools.com

Bill Pryor · June 10th, 2010, 01:56 PM

Sometimes for shooting events you'd want a camera capable of longer runs. If that's the case, I'd vote to stay tapeless and go with the HF. But if what you want is a backup camera, then why not the T2i?

Johannes Soetandi · June 10th, 2010, 08:46 PM

Thanks for the response.

I dont want a DSLR for my backup camera as I want to leave it alone most of the time (no operator). So I need it AF and obviously more than 12 mins recording time so we dont need to keep reminding ourselves to press record as we are already occupied with our 7Ds. Just in case we miss a footage atleast we have a backup camera recording the whole ceremony.. of course, from a safe/uninterrupted place

Now, XH-A1 is overkill, I have not the budget to afford it. It would be nice.. but It'd mean a whole month of eating cup noodle. :P

I am considering HF series but not sure if the image quality, when mixed with 7D will be atleast acceptable (I know its nowhere comparable). HV seems fine to me but I do prefer tapeless.

Also, I suspect if I buy the camera from US as NTSC, I will have problem as in Austraia its widely PAL sysem.

Cheers,

John

Josh Fung · June 11th, 2010, 09:57 PM

Canon HFS21 seems very promising..

June 9th, 2010, 09:21 PM	#1
Johannes Soetandi Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 387	Backup camera for my 7D (Canon HV or HF series) I'm considering to buy a HDV camera for a backup of my 7D used on wedding. Last wedding we use 2 7Ds and a HV40, sharp image quality and liking it very much. We don't use it for wedding highlight but might use it for few full-day edit footage. However a few question I have (I'm not really a camera expert so an input or two would be greatly appreciated!): 1. What is the quality of HF series compared to HV? HF uses HDD which is a big advantage as I hate having to change tape during ceremony. 2. If I'm buying from US (NTSC), using it in Australia (PAL), will I have any problem editing on FCP and combining with my 7D PAL footage? Cost of the camera here in Australia is ridiculously expensive! I'm still hiring HV40 for backup camera at the moment. But all that money.. I'd rather buy one for myself as price from US is getting affordable. Cheers, John

June 10th, 2010, 11:03 AM	#2
Jim Martin Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Burbank, CA 91502 Posts: 949	If you want the same look, buy another 7D. If you want a more user friendly camera and you like the look of the HV40, then I'd suggest the XH-A1s....3 chips better color and depth-of picture, XLRs, cine gamma, etc. Here in LA, you can take the A1s down to Canon in Irvine, pay them $500, and they will turn the PAL side on so you'll have both! As for the XFs, in your situation, I don't see the justification to spend the extra money. Jim Martin Filmtools.com

June 10th, 2010, 01:56 PM	#3
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Sometimes for shooting events you'd want a camera capable of longer runs. If that's the case, I'd vote to stay tapeless and go with the HF. But if what you want is a backup camera, then why not the T2i?

June 10th, 2010, 08:46 PM	#4
Johannes Soetandi Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 387	Thanks for the response. I dont want a DSLR for my backup camera as I want to leave it alone most of the time (no operator). So I need it AF and obviously more than 12 mins recording time so we dont need to keep reminding ourselves to press record as we are already occupied with our 7Ds. Just in case we miss a footage atleast we have a backup camera recording the whole ceremony.. of course, from a safe/uninterrupted place Now, XH-A1 is overkill, I have not the budget to afford it. It would be nice.. but It'd mean a whole month of eating cup noodle. :P I am considering HF series but not sure if the image quality, when mixed with 7D will be atleast acceptable (I know its nowhere comparable). HV seems fine to me but I do prefer tapeless. Also, I suspect if I buy the camera from US as NTSC, I will have problem as in Austraia its widely PAL sysem. Cheers, John

June 11th, 2010, 09:57 PM	#5
Josh Fung Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 81	Canon HFS21 seems very promising..