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Mark Slocombe · March 12th, 2010, 12:17 PM

I can't figure how to keep Live View on with an external monitor attached, anyone?

Jon Fairhurst · March 12th, 2010, 12:25 PM

There is a Live View timeout setting in the camera's menu system.

Colin Rowe · March 12th, 2010, 01:47 PM

I believe live view is disabled if an HDMI cable is connected to the camera.

Mark Slocombe · March 12th, 2010, 02:07 PM

Cheers, was using the a/v cable out to a HD monitor, and had liveView timeout set to never; maybe I need an HDMI to component or SDI conversion cable as my monitor has no HDMI.

Ed Kishel · March 12th, 2010, 02:52 PM

so unless you are using the hdmi out, the lcd will timeout if you are using the AV out?

Mark Slocombe · March 14th, 2010, 02:04 PM

To be clear - I'm wanting to know how to keep an external monitor constantly on during shot set up and shooting - do more experienced users advise that this can only be achieved with an hdmi-connected monitor, and the LiveView set to Never?

Robert Turchick · March 14th, 2010, 02:43 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...-550d-t2i.html

Check this out...here's your solution. Use a laptop with the Canon software to get the live view on both your camera and computer. All you need is a long usb cord or an extension for the provided one!

The whole camera can be controlled from the computer, including the aperture/iso/shutter and auto focus! really cool!

Mark Slocombe · March 14th, 2010, 03:13 PM

Cheers Robert - the laptop monitor solution will be great indoors, but I'm thinking more about use outdoors, solo shooting, where having the laptop won't be so practical (have MacBook Pro 15" - too big). And need to monitor externally eg if camera is at ground level or above my height on a tripod.

Just been through the menus again - there is no setting to disable the LiveView switching-off, only a setting to stop the LCD switch-off when your eye nears the viewfinder.

So it'd be great if anyone can confirm if the HDMI monitor solution leaves the picture always on, or if it continues to switch off after x seconds, like the composite output.

Colin Rowe · March 14th, 2010, 03:52 PM

As mentioned above. I believe the cameras lcd output is disabled as soon as an HDMI cable is connected.

Robert Turchick · March 14th, 2010, 04:14 PM

Colin is correct as I have tried it with my SmallHD DP1 via hdmi.

Mark Slocombe · March 14th, 2010, 04:22 PM

Understand the LCD goes off - but does the HDMI monitor stay on or keep getting switched off by the camera like the liveview on the lcd?

Robert Turchick · March 14th, 2010, 04:42 PM

no, it stays on.

Just to open up another can of worms for you, you mentioned you wanted to use an lcd outdoors?
Unless you have a hood and a pretty bright monitor, it's not going to be what you expect. I suppose you could use it for framing. Also, if you are planning to use it for focus, keep in mind that the hdmi out shows 1080 until you hit record then switches to 480 which isn't that great. I was hoping to use my DP1 with the T2i but it just isn't ideal, so I use the monitor with my Panasonic which helps that camera a lot!
Since I shoot a LOT outdoors here in AZ, I have purchased a Zacuto Z-finder (though there are plenty of cheaper options) This gives me a MUCH better view for focus and works flawlessly in sunlight. Though if I had to mount the camera high up or on a jib, it wouldn't work.

These DSLR's are great for some stuff but terrible for others. That's why I will always have a camcorder in my rig.

Mark Slocombe · March 14th, 2010, 04:53 PM

Cheers Robert, we have a Panasonic 9in BTLH-80W HD-SDI monitor that we use with our Ex1 / Letus, but it doesn't have HDMI in, "just" SDI and component - I'll try a HDMI > component cable and report back.

March 12th, 2010, 12:17 PM	#1
Mark Slocombe Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 120	live view on I can't figure how to keep Live View on with an external monitor attached, anyone? __________________ Mark Slocombe, CreationVideo http://www.creationvideo.com

March 12th, 2010, 12:25 PM	#2
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	There is a Live View timeout setting in the camera's menu system. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

March 12th, 2010, 01:47 PM	#3
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	I believe live view is disabled if an HDMI cable is connected to the camera. __________________ Colin

March 12th, 2010, 02:07 PM	#4
Mark Slocombe Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 120	Cheers, was using the a/v cable out to a HD monitor, and had liveView timeout set to never; maybe I need an HDMI to component or SDI conversion cable as my monitor has no HDMI. __________________ Mark Slocombe, CreationVideo http://www.creationvideo.com

March 14th, 2010, 02:04 PM	#6
Mark Slocombe Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 120	To be clear - I'm wanting to know how to keep an external monitor constantly on during shot set up and shooting - do more experienced users advise that this can only be achieved with an hdmi-connected monitor, and the LiveView set to Never? __________________ Mark Slocombe, CreationVideo http://www.creationvideo.com

March 12th, 2010, 02:52 PM	#5
Ed Kishel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 80	so unless you are using the hdmi out, the lcd will timeout if you are using the AV out?

March 14th, 2010, 02:43 PM	#7
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...-550d-t2i.html Check this out...here's your solution. Use a laptop with the Canon software to get the live view on both your camera and computer. All you need is a long usb cord or an extension for the provided one! The whole camera can be controlled from the computer, including the aperture/iso/shutter and auto focus! really cool! __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

March 14th, 2010, 03:13 PM	#8
Mark Slocombe Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 120	Cheers Robert - the laptop monitor solution will be great indoors, but I'm thinking more about use outdoors, solo shooting, where having the laptop won't be so practical (have MacBook Pro 15" - too big). And need to monitor externally eg if camera is at ground level or above my height on a tripod. Just been through the menus again - there is no setting to disable the LiveView switching-off, only a setting to stop the LCD switch-off when your eye nears the viewfinder. So it'd be great if anyone can confirm if the HDMI monitor solution leaves the picture always on, or if it continues to switch off after x seconds, like the composite output. __________________ Mark Slocombe, CreationVideo http://www.creationvideo.com

March 14th, 2010, 03:52 PM	#9
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	As mentioned above. I believe the cameras lcd output is disabled as soon as an HDMI cable is connected. __________________ Colin

March 14th, 2010, 04:14 PM	#10
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	Colin is correct as I have tried it with my SmallHD DP1 via hdmi. __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

March 14th, 2010, 04:22 PM	#11
Mark Slocombe Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 120	Understand the LCD goes off - but does the HDMI monitor stay on or keep getting switched off by the camera like the liveview on the lcd? __________________ Mark Slocombe, CreationVideo http://www.creationvideo.com

March 14th, 2010, 04:42 PM	#12
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	no, it stays on. Just to open up another can of worms for you, you mentioned you wanted to use an lcd outdoors? Unless you have a hood and a pretty bright monitor, it's not going to be what you expect. I suppose you could use it for framing. Also, if you are planning to use it for focus, keep in mind that the hdmi out shows 1080 until you hit record then switches to 480 which isn't that great. I was hoping to use my DP1 with the T2i but it just isn't ideal, so I use the monitor with my Panasonic which helps that camera a lot! Since I shoot a LOT outdoors here in AZ, I have purchased a Zacuto Z-finder (though there are plenty of cheaper options) This gives me a MUCH better view for focus and works flawlessly in sunlight. Though if I had to mount the camera high up or on a jib, it wouldn't work. These DSLR's are great for some stuff but terrible for others. That's why I will always have a camcorder in my rig. __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

March 14th, 2010, 04:53 PM	#13
Mark Slocombe Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 120	Cheers Robert, we have a Panasonic 9in BTLH-80W HD-SDI monitor that we use with our Ex1 / Letus, but it doesn't have HDMI in, "just" SDI and component - I'll try a HDMI > component cable and report back. __________________ Mark Slocombe, CreationVideo http://www.creationvideo.com Last edited by Mark Slocombe; March 14th, 2010 at 06:04 PM.