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Arne Johnson · March 5th, 2010, 04:15 PM

Hello all,

We're getting a T2i, and were only able to find the body available...We're going to be able to afford some nicer glass in a month or two, but want a starter lens for some initial shoots. Any recommendations for lenses on the lower end of the price scale? For instance, I was on KEH and saw lots of zooms in the $180-225 range. Ideally, it'd be a single zoom that would allow us some flexibility until we get higher end stuff. Here's one that was listed on KEH for $180:

Canon EOS - Zoom Lenses
24-85 F3.5-4.5 ULTRASONIC SILVER (67)
35MM SLR AUTO FOCUS ZOOM
WIDE ANGLE LENS

Thanks for any help!

Arne
Mission Pictures

Arne Johnson · March 5th, 2010, 04:27 PM

This one gets lotsa good reviews on Amazon and is $275 on KEH:

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
USM Standard Zoom Lens for Canon SLR Cameras

Stan Chase · March 5th, 2010, 06:28 PM

Many of the posters on the Canon photography forums say the 18-55 kit lens is as good as you'll find under $300. For a noticeably better walk around zoom, you'll need to spend at least double that. I'm talking new prices here. The T2i's image quality really comes alive with a Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS..it's more expensive than the camera itself..but worth it to some.

For a starter lens, you'll have a hard time beating the $99 (or less used) Canon EF 50mm 1.8 II 'Nifty Fifty' for sharpness and low available light photography. For video, the Nifty needs support like a tripod, monopod, shoulder mount, or loupe to lessen the 'jitters'.

Roger Shealy · March 5th, 2010, 07:27 PM

I've had good results with 2 different copies of the Tamron 17-50 VC @ $650. More expensive than many of the other lens listed, but extremely sharp and you get IS (VC).

Kin Lau · March 5th, 2010, 07:49 PM

Lots of choices in the under $300- category. Some of my lenses like the Sigma 30/1.4, 24-60/2.8, 20-40/2.8, Tokina 28-70/2.8 were all under $300- and some were new at the time.

I see Canon 17-85IS and 28-135IS on Ebay frequently under $300-.

Stan Chase · March 5th, 2010, 07:51 PM

Roger, have you seen an objective comparison of the Tamron 17-50 VC to the Canon 17-55 IS anywhere? Some of the reviews of the VC weren't very flattering. I was strongly considering one but the USM and resale value of the 17-55 won me over.

Kin Lau · March 5th, 2010, 07:58 PM

BTW, the EF35/2 is around $300- and the EF50/1.8 is a lot cheaper. They're not zooms but image quality is very good.

Roger Shealy · March 5th, 2010, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Chase

Roger, have you seen an objective comparison of the Tamron 17-50 VC to the Canon 17-55 IS anywhere? Some of the reviews of the VC weren't very flattering. I was strongly considering one but the USM and resale value of the 17-55 won me over.

Stan, there is no doubt the Canon 17-55 is a great lens and as I stated in another string I probably would have chosen it if I made a living at this crazy sport called videography. I think either of these lenses can be a great choice. Which is the "best" is a much tougher decision and depends on a lot of user criteria. I haven't used them side by side, but would love the opportunity.

A while back I read a number of articles on both lenses but I'm not sure how many of them were objective. At the time I was researching, most articles put the Tamron (Canon mount) as optically equal and focus speed and quietness going to the Canon. The only real dings against the Canon were its lack of weather sealing and its price. I didn't like its small focus ring for manual focus and I also like the Tamron's direction of focus as it matches my much older Takumar primes I use for video. Most of the negative reviews of the Tamron 17-50 VC were directed at the Nikon mount and back focusing issues with the Nikon host. My personal cons for the Tamron is the focus ring is a little sticky when making precise manual adjustments and the VC is noisy on the camera's internal microphone. Optically I've found mine very sharp, colors good, and the autofocus precise as long as there is adequate light and some amount of texture on the subject. In general I'm very impressed with the Tamron lens, enough so to purchase the 2nd one.

Arne Johnson · March 6th, 2010, 01:46 AM

Thanks everyone! Sadly, EVS informed me that they hadn't updated their website yet and were sold out of the t2i, so am still looking! But this is very helpful for when we hunt one down...everyone seems sold out.

Arif Syed · March 6th, 2010, 05:33 PM

I plan on using the 18-55 off my old XSI...that the same kit lens for the t2i correct?

Jason Xuereb · March 6th, 2010, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arne Johnson

Thanks everyone! Sadly, EVS informed me that they hadn't updated their website yet and were sold out of the t2i, so am still looking! But this is very helpful for when we hunt one down...everyone seems sold out.

I bought mine from Hong Kong digitarev.com. I'm in Australia ordered on Wednesday got the camera on Friday. My mistake is that I should of ordered a lense with the body so I could of started playing with it :P

Bruce Foreman · March 6th, 2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arne Johnson

This one gets lotsa good reviews on Amazon and is $275 on KEH:

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
USM Standard Zoom Lens for Canon SLR Cameras

My son has this one for his 40D and when zoomed out and extended the inner barrel has an incredible loose amount of sideways (and up and down) play. Close to 1/2 inch of "slop" when he showed it to me over Thanksgiving.

He took it back to the Austin camera shop where he bought it and the sales guy behind the counter showed him the new ones still in the box were the same. He's been getting annoying "soft" images and they tried to tell him the "slop" had no effect on IQ.

I would avoid this one like the plague. And that's a shame because Canon usually has excellent quality control in their lens line. Even the much "maligned" 18-55mm EF-S f3.5 to f5.6 IS "kit" lens is not a bad one, I'm on my 3rd Digital Rebel (T1i) with the most recent version of this one and I've not had a bad one yet.

This "kit" lens can be found on ebay for as low as $100 or sometimes less.

I've had an EF 17-40mm f4 L for a few weeks and an EF 70-200mm f4 L for a week now for my 7D so when I say I feel the 18-55mm "kit" lens is not bad I do have something to compare it with. Yes, it's not one of Canon's best but it does give the new owner a lens that is reasonably sharp with a very usable focal length range that can cover most "general" photography.

Kenneth Tong · March 7th, 2010, 07:54 AM

The best bargain lens is perhaps the kit lens. It has IS and the image quality is OK for video. Play it until you think you need another lens to cover:

For example :

a) Low light situations (50mm 1.8)
b) Ultra wide angle for landscape (anything from 10mm to 24mm)
c) Telephoto for things far away (any zoom lens with IS)

Regards,

Kenneth

March 5th, 2010, 04:15 PM	#1
Arne Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: United States Posts: 88	Best Bargain Lens? Hello all, We're getting a T2i, and were only able to find the body available...We're going to be able to afford some nicer glass in a month or two, but want a starter lens for some initial shoots. Any recommendations for lenses on the lower end of the price scale? For instance, I was on KEH and saw lots of zooms in the $180-225 range. Ideally, it'd be a single zoom that would allow us some flexibility until we get higher end stuff. Here's one that was listed on KEH for $180: Canon EOS - Zoom Lenses 24-85 F3.5-4.5 ULTRASONIC SILVER (67) 35MM SLR AUTO FOCUS ZOOM WIDE ANGLE LENS Thanks for any help! Arne Mission Pictures

March 5th, 2010, 06:28 PM	#3
Stan Chase Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 75	Many of the posters on the Canon photography forums say the 18-55 kit lens is as good as you'll find under $300. For a noticeably better walk around zoom, you'll need to spend at least double that. I'm talking new prices here. The T2i's image quality really comes alive with a Canon EF-S 17-55 2.8 IS..it's more expensive than the camera itself..but worth it to some. For a starter lens, you'll have a hard time beating the $99 (or less used) Canon EF 50mm 1.8 II 'Nifty Fifty' for sharpness and low available light photography. For video, the Nifty needs support like a tripod, monopod, shoulder mount, or loupe to lessen the 'jitters'. __________________ [T2i/550D] [17-55 IS USM] [Zoom H2] [HoodLoupe/HoodMAG 3.0]

March 5th, 2010, 07:51 PM	#6
Stan Chase Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 75	Roger, have you seen an objective comparison of the Tamron 17-50 VC to the Canon 17-55 IS anywhere? Some of the reviews of the VC weren't very flattering. I was strongly considering one but the USM and resale value of the 17-55 won me over. __________________ [T2i/550D] [17-55 IS USM] [Zoom H2] [HoodLoupe/HoodMAG 3.0]

March 7th, 2010, 07:54 AM	#13
Kenneth Tong Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 71	Kit Lens The best bargain lens is perhaps the kit lens. It has IS and the image quality is OK for video. Play it until you think you need another lens to cover: For example : a) Low light situations (50mm 1.8) b) Ultra wide angle for landscape (anything from 10mm to 24mm) c) Telephoto for things far away (any zoom lens with IS) Regards, Kenneth

March 5th, 2010, 04:27 PM	#2
Arne Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: United States Posts: 88	This one gets lotsa good reviews on Amazon and is $275 on KEH: Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Standard Zoom Lens for Canon SLR Cameras

March 5th, 2010, 07:27 PM	#4
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	I've had good results with 2 different copies of the Tamron 17-50 VC @ $650. More expensive than many of the other lens listed, but extremely sharp and you get IS (VC).

March 5th, 2010, 07:49 PM	#5
Kin Lau Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 385	Lots of choices in the under $300- category. Some of my lenses like the Sigma 30/1.4, 24-60/2.8, 20-40/2.8, Tokina 28-70/2.8 were all under $300- and some were new at the time. I see Canon 17-85IS and 28-135IS on Ebay frequently under $300-.

March 5th, 2010, 07:58 PM	#7
Kin Lau Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 385	BTW, the EF35/2 is around $300- and the EF50/1.8 is a lot cheaper. They're not zooms but image quality is very good.

March 6th, 2010, 01:46 AM	#9
Arne Johnson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: United States Posts: 88	Thanks everyone! Sadly, EVS informed me that they hadn't updated their website yet and were sold out of the t2i, so am still looking! But this is very helpful for when we hunt one down...everyone seems sold out.

March 6th, 2010, 05:33 PM	#10
Arif Syed Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Elmont, New York Posts: 143	I plan on using the 18-55 off my old XSI...that the same kit lens for the t2i correct?