Magic Lantern

Bryan McCullough · April 10th, 2010, 07:55 AM

Sure you can do it manually, but PluralEyes makes it so easy. Last night I shot an event and had my Z7U as the master shot (about 1.5 hours) and shot various cutaways with my T2i. I've got about 100 clips with the T2i. It would take hours to sync all those clips up, PluralEyes will do it in minutes.

In the past I'd just let my second camera run the full time so would only have to sync once, but with the 12 minute limit that can't be done.

Skye Giebink · April 10th, 2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan McCullough

Sure you can do it manually, but PluralEyes makes it so easy. Last night I shot an event and had my Z7U as the master shot (about 1.5 hours) and shot various cutaways with my T2i. I've got about 100 clips with the T2i. It would take hours to sync all those clips up, PluralEyes will do it in minutes.

In the past I'd just let my second camera run the full time so would only have to sync once, but with the 12 minute limit that can't be done.

This was exactly what I needed to hear to give PluralEyes a try. I wasn't sure if it could accomplish something like this, but now that I know it can, I'm going to save a lot of time in post from now on.

Bryan McCullough · April 10th, 2010, 11:58 AM

You get a 30 day trial with full features to try it out. I've got 10 days left on mine, then I'll be buying.

George Angeludis · April 11th, 2010, 05:12 AM

I am in too for a ML audio firmware.

Bryan Harley · April 13th, 2010, 11:18 PM

I would definitely donate to the cause of getting Magic Lantern firmware working for T2i.

Daniel D. Kim · April 14th, 2010, 08:45 AM

Hey Guys,

I know ML is more of an audio upgrade but was wondering if this could be possible...

1. KELVIN temperature... Haha I maybe asking too much for this but I come from still photography background and I think to be able to set your white balance on the fly is crucial! Just a wish, though lol

2. CUSTOM BUTTON CONFIG. like the 7D where you can customize each button to do something other than what they are configured to. Just like someone said, a dedicated button for white balance would be awesome

Hahaha these are a major wish lists... ;). I'd still love to donate no matter what happens.

PS. Is there a way to help out, also with the ML project, like as a developer? I'd love to give anyone a hand

Thanks!

Chris Barcellos · April 14th, 2010, 09:22 AM

Daniel: Not sure if you have been to the Wiki page yet, but check out the multitude of information there:

Magic Lantern Firmware Wiki

You can contact Tramm Hudson directly through PM from this site if you are interested in helping develop the software. Go to post 8 in this thread, click on his name to send him an email offering to help.

Tramm has been busy with the 5D's latest firmware, and getting a new version of Magic Lantern ready for it. Hopefully, this might provide developments that can "easily" be ported over for something for the T2i.

Zach Fine · April 17th, 2010, 12:41 AM

I've heard the 7D records with much less noise at multiples of 160 ISO. So 160 ISO is better than 100, 640 cleaner than 400, etc. It'd be nice to have these intermediate ISO settings enabled on the T2i/550D.

reference for the noise levels at different ISO settings:
Canon 7D ISO versus noise test images Marvelsfilm’s Blog

Daniel Rudd · April 30th, 2010, 05:42 AM

I'm in for a donation.
But it sounds like the camera is only one limitation.
Can the right kind of programmer be hired to collaborate on the magiclantern project (with a focus on the t2i)?

what if we set up a fund. used it to purchase the camera and hire a programmer.

We could all contribute $20, and then those who could afford to could invest an additional (greater) amount.

Once the software was completed, we could request a $20 donation from future users. That money would reimburse those who invested beyond the standard $20.

After that, donations from new users would go toward support and improvements.
Also, it might be appropriate to contribute financially toward the work that people are already or have done to make this project possible in the first place.

Leonard Levy · May 1st, 2010, 03:46 PM

Go down and read the comments at Marvels film blog above. turns out the 7D really has only 100-200-400-800 etc but is under or overexposing the the higher or lower ASA values to create the fractional settings. Corresponding to this there is a loss or gain in highlight range. Thus is 500 is overexposed 400 and 640 is underexposed 800 - at least that's how I read it.

Sam Piggott · May 4th, 2010, 12:09 PM

I'd happily donate, particularly if the intermediate ISO settings are made available :)

Peter Malcolm · May 6th, 2010, 03:34 PM

I would donate to this project.

Please make this a reality!

Daniel Rudd · May 8th, 2010, 12:09 PM

Alright, here's my attempt to get this thing in motion.

I think that if we are going to get a lot of t2i filmmakers on board with donations, potential donors need to trust that the money will go toward development, and that they will get a vote in how the money is spent.

To use the "ChipIn" service that was suggested, the donations have to go to someone's paypal account, I'm nominating myself as the person to do it.

Obviously, creating a non-profit entity with a board of directors and all kinds of accountability would be better, but that would take a very long time.

So if we really want to do this, there will have to an individual who has some solid reasons why they can be trusted to "hold" everyone's money and then disperse it according to the wishes of the group.

Here's why I think I'm a decent candidate for this:

I make a living through a small music licensing company (www.Stock20.com - Flash Detection) that primarily services independent video professionals, videographers, film-makers, and photographers. Most of my business comes through word of mouth. My company offers a 100% unconditional and unending money-back guarantee on every product we sell.

In short, my reputation online (and in this forum) is worth far more to me, then any amount of money we would raise for this project.

So finding an individual that can demonstrate a good reason for staying honest, seems like the best way to get things in motion.

If there is someone else that would fit this description better, I'd be more than willing to defer.

Otherwise, I think it's time to take some action. I really want to expand some functionality on my t2i.

I've set up a ChipIn account and posted some initial "terms" there.
ChipIn: t2i Magic Lantern Development

It's just a starting point. I can't think of a better way to get this rolling. But maybe someone else can.

If there seems to be some momentum on this, maybe others will volunteer there skills or resources to promote the project.

I think we could probably set up an inexpensive google adwords account to attract more t2i filmmaker users. But probably we could promote it best through our own connections.

Let me know what you guys think.

Bryan McCullough · May 8th, 2010, 12:27 PM

Daniel,

I think you'd be great to handle the money, I have no question about that. Personally I'm just waiting for Tramm to say he's ready and then I'll donate.

Aaron Dunlap · May 8th, 2010, 09:36 PM

That will be my impetus as well. All the money in the world wont do any good until someone with the time and knowledge to make it happen steps up to the plate. As soon as Tramm says he can do it and all that he's waiting on is a camera, I'm definitely in.

April 11th, 2010, 05:12 AM	#34
George Angeludis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece. Posts: 179	I am in too for a ML audio firmware. __________________ My Films My Works FB

April 13th, 2010, 11:18 PM	#35
Bryan Harley Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 99	I would definitely donate to the cause of getting Magic Lantern firmware working for T2i. __________________ "Who's scruffy lookin'?" http://www.amfproductions.com

April 14th, 2010, 09:22 AM	#37
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Daniel: Not sure if you have been to the Wiki page yet, but check out the multitude of information there: Magic Lantern Firmware Wiki You can contact Tramm Hudson directly through PM from this site if you are interested in helping develop the software. Go to post 8 in this thread, click on his name to send him an email offering to help. Tramm has been busy with the 5D's latest firmware, and getting a new version of Magic Lantern ready for it. Hopefully, this might provide developments that can "easily" be ported over for something for the T2i. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

April 17th, 2010, 12:41 AM	#38
Zach Fine Tourist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Studio City, CA Posts: 3	another item for the 550D ML wishlist: 160 ISO settings I've heard the 7D records with much less noise at multiples of 160 ISO. So 160 ISO is better than 100, 640 cleaner than 400, etc. It'd be nice to have these intermediate ISO settings enabled on the T2i/550D. reference for the noise levels at different ISO settings: Canon 7D ISO versus noise test images Marvelsfilm’s Blog Canon EOS 7D ISO Noise test on Vimeo

April 30th, 2010, 05:42 AM	#39
Daniel Rudd Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Muskegon, MI Posts: 213	I'm in for a donation. But it sounds like the camera is only one limitation. Can the right kind of programmer be hired to collaborate on the magiclantern project (with a focus on the t2i)? what if we set up a fund. used it to purchase the camera and hire a programmer. We could all contribute $20, and then those who could afford to could invest an additional (greater) amount. Once the software was completed, we could request a $20 donation from future users. That money would reimburse those who invested beyond the standard $20. After that, donations from new users would go toward support and improvements. Also, it might be appropriate to contribute financially toward the work that people are already or have done to make this project possible in the first place. __________________ Daniel Rudd Digital Storyteller (Sony HDV, Aspect HD) Soundtrack Creation & Royalty Free Music Production www.stock20.com

April 10th, 2010, 07:55 AM	#31
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Sure you can do it manually, but PluralEyes makes it so easy. Last night I shot an event and had my Z7U as the master shot (about 1.5 hours) and shot various cutaways with my T2i. I've got about 100 clips with the T2i. It would take hours to sync all those clips up, PluralEyes will do it in minutes. In the past I'd just let my second camera run the full time so would only have to sync once, but with the 12 minute limit that can't be done.

April 10th, 2010, 11:58 AM	#33
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	You get a 30 day trial with full features to try it out. I've got 10 days left on mine, then I'll be buying.

April 14th, 2010, 08:45 AM	#36
Daniel D. Kim Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NY Posts: 36	Hey Guys, I know ML is more of an audio upgrade but was wondering if this could be possible... 1. KELVIN temperature... Haha I maybe asking too much for this but I come from still photography background and I think to be able to set your white balance on the fly is crucial! Just a wish, though lol 2. CUSTOM BUTTON CONFIG. like the 7D where you can customize each button to do something other than what they are configured to. Just like someone said, a dedicated button for white balance would be awesome Hahaha these are a major wish lists... ;). I'd still love to donate no matter what happens. PS. Is there a way to help out, also with the ML project, like as a developer? I'd love to give anyone a hand Thanks!

May 1st, 2010, 03:46 PM	#40
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Go down and read the comments at Marvels film blog above. turns out the 7D really has only 100-200-400-800 etc but is under or overexposing the the higher or lower ASA values to create the fractional settings. Corresponding to this there is a loss or gain in highlight range. Thus is 500 is overexposed 400 and 640 is underexposed 800 - at least that's how I read it.

May 4th, 2010, 12:09 PM	#41
Sam Piggott New Boot Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 23	I'd happily donate, particularly if the intermediate ISO settings are made available :)

May 6th, 2010, 03:34 PM	#42
Peter Malcolm Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 53	I would donate to this project. Please make this a reality!

May 8th, 2010, 12:09 PM	#43
Daniel Rudd Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Muskegon, MI Posts: 213	Let's Do This. Alright, here's my attempt to get this thing in motion. I think that if we are going to get a lot of t2i filmmakers on board with donations, potential donors need to trust that the money will go toward development, and that they will get a vote in how the money is spent. To use the "ChipIn" service that was suggested, the donations have to go to someone's paypal account, I'm nominating myself as the person to do it. Obviously, creating a non-profit entity with a board of directors and all kinds of accountability would be better, but that would take a very long time. So if we really want to do this, there will have to an individual who has some solid reasons why they can be trusted to "hold" everyone's money and then disperse it according to the wishes of the group. Here's why I think I'm a decent candidate for this: I make a living through a small music licensing company (www.Stock20.com - Flash Detection) that primarily services independent video professionals, videographers, film-makers, and photographers. Most of my business comes through word of mouth. My company offers a 100% unconditional and unending money-back guarantee on every product we sell. In short, my reputation online (and in this forum) is worth far more to me, then any amount of money we would raise for this project. So finding an individual that can demonstrate a good reason for staying honest, seems like the best way to get things in motion. If there is someone else that would fit this description better, I'd be more than willing to defer. Otherwise, I think it's time to take some action. I really want to expand some functionality on my t2i. I've set up a ChipIn account and posted some initial "terms" there. ChipIn: t2i Magic Lantern Development It's just a starting point. I can't think of a better way to get this rolling. But maybe someone else can. If there seems to be some momentum on this, maybe others will volunteer there skills or resources to promote the project. I think we could probably set up an inexpensive google adwords account to attract more t2i filmmaker users. But probably we could promote it best through our own connections. Let me know what you guys think. __________________ Daniel Rudd Digital Storyteller (Sony HDV, Aspect HD) Soundtrack Creation & Royalty Free Music Production www.stock20.com

May 8th, 2010, 12:27 PM	#44
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Daniel, I think you'd be great to handle the money, I have no question about that. Personally I'm just waiting for Tramm to say he's ready and then I'll donate.

May 8th, 2010, 09:36 PM	#45
Aaron Dunlap Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 49	That will be my impetus as well. All the money in the world wont do any good until someone with the time and knowledge to make it happen steps up to the plate. As soon as Tramm says he can do it and all that he's waiting on is a camera, I'm definitely in.