Magic Lantern

Ed Kishel · March 9th, 2010, 03:11 PM

zebra stripes...

Ed Kishel · March 9th, 2010, 03:15 PM

I watched the firmware movie from the ML wiki, amazing. I will donate to a chipin if it is setup.

Julian Jansen · March 16th, 2010, 04:32 AM

Willing to donate!

The 550d is the greatest lowbudget cam of this moment and a serious filmtool when ML will be able to run on the 550d!

Ala Shiban · March 16th, 2010, 05:34 AM

As someone mentioned earlier -

The moment a firmware for the 550d is available (and work on porting Magic Lantern can start) - We'll set up a ChipIn and get things going

Paul Reid · March 22nd, 2010, 08:39 AM

This is my biggest need right now. I shot on the T2i yesterday and the images are incredible. Audio a mess. I recorded to a Zoom H4n and even had problems syncing in post. I shot 24p on camera.

Jef Gibbons · March 22nd, 2010, 09:45 AM

I hear ya Paul, it makes the audio input completely useless... I also shot while recording on the H4 the other day, and indeed the audio is out, but this supposed 99.9% fix seemed to be more like 99.9346 for me, and even that wasn't bang on...

I would gladly chip in $100 if I could record from the zoom straight to the H4!

David Ells · March 22nd, 2010, 09:50 AM

i'll chip.

Paul Reid · March 22nd, 2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jef Gibbons

I would gladly chip in $100 if I could record from the zoom straight to the H4!

Hey Jef...just to make sure...you meant "from the zoom straight to the T2i" right?

I'd like to pitch in, though I can't do a lot. This is actually my FIRST DSLR so I am buying everything from scratch. But I could pitch in $20. I'd donate my camera for a little bit, but I leave the country soon and need to learn how to use it!

Jef Gibbons · March 22nd, 2010, 01:39 PM

Hi Paul, YUP! "Zoom to the H4"... doesn't make much sense does it!

Yeah, if we could take the output of the zoom straight to the T2i with no AGC that would be amazing, but being a mic input on the T2i, I'm guessing the line signal from the H4 might be too loud anyhow.

I'm actually a sound guy pretending to be a video guy, so syncing up in my DAW is no problem, but I can imagine it being tough for non-audio folks.

Colin Rowe · March 22nd, 2010, 05:50 PM

Try PluralEyes, no sync problems at all (only works in Vegas Pro and FCP)

Ed Kishel · April 1st, 2010, 02:14 PM

is the reason that canon seems so hesitant to add firware features like AGC kill, zebra stripes, audio levels, etc is because they fear that a HDSLR full featured will take sales away from thier pro level video products? Like the H1 series?

John Vincent · April 2nd, 2010, 04:17 PM

Perhaps. Of course, this camera already offers an amazing value. To be frank, I've always thought zebra stripes were over-rated (of course, most of what I shoot is at night) - if you need 'em that bad, get a light meter.

MUCH more anoying is how the camera white balances - a dedicated button would make a lot more sense - even just for stills - then about any other upgrade.

Second would be manual audio control, although for cameras this size I'm not sure how good the sound can possibly be (no xlrs). Remember that every pro film set uses a secondary sound recording source - and even then, as much as 80% of the dialouge will be looped anyway.

For news gathering, I'd agree, but I think this cam is ill suited for that purpose.

In the end, I don't think Canon would be too worried about their video camera sales - mainly because so few people will actually end up making features with the T2 (or even the Mark II).

jdv

David St. Juskow · April 3rd, 2010, 06:34 PM

Having been a t2i owner for a week, here's my magic lantern wish list. I have no idea if these are possible via firmware hacking or not, but-

1) enabling that "focus assist / magnification" button so that it works during video recording- wow, what a focusing lifesaver! would totally revolutionize the camera!

2) if there was some way to create an HD movie crop mode... that movie crop mode is awesome and brilliant- there's no reason why you couldn't do the same thing but with an HD frame size- obviously it's not going to magnify as much, but who cares- having a built-in telefoto like that is great. Shooting HD all the time, the SD movie crop is kinda limited, so why not tweak it a little?

3) all the usual obvious suspects- manual audio, etc.

thanks! let me know when i can chip in...

Aaron Dunlap · April 9th, 2010, 10:56 AM

I would definitely be in for this. The features of ML look amazing.

One question though (speaking from complete ignorance on the subject), what is the big deal with syncing from something like H4N in post? Aren't the waveforms similar enough to line up the H4N/etc audio with whatever is recorded by the camera itself?

Is it terribly noticeable if the audio is a few pixels of alignment off?

John Mastrogiacomo · April 9th, 2010, 08:59 PM

There is nothing wrong with lining it up yourself. I do it that way all the time. You just have to make sure your NLE lets you move the audio in sub-frame increments. PP works fine.

March 9th, 2010, 03:11 PM	#16
Ed Kishel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 80	zebra stripes... Attached Images

March 22nd, 2010, 08:39 AM	#20
Paul Reid Tourist Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sana'a, Yemen Posts: 2	subscribing This is my biggest need right now. I shot on the T2i yesterday and the images are incredible. Audio a mess. I recorded to a Zoom H4n and even had problems syncing in post. I shot 24p on camera.

March 22nd, 2010, 05:50 PM	#25
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	Try PluralEyes, no sync problems at all (only works in Vegas Pro and FCP) __________________ Colin

March 9th, 2010, 03:15 PM	#17
Ed Kishel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 80	I watched the firmware movie from the ML wiki, amazing. I will donate to a chipin if it is setup.

March 16th, 2010, 04:32 AM	#18
Julian Jansen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 38	Willing to donate! The 550d is the greatest lowbudget cam of this moment and a serious filmtool when ML will be able to run on the 550d!

March 16th, 2010, 05:34 AM	#19
Ala Shiban New Boot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 16	As someone mentioned earlier - The moment a firmware for the 550d is available (and work on porting Magic Lantern can start) - We'll set up a ChipIn and get things going

March 22nd, 2010, 09:45 AM	#21
Jef Gibbons Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greater Vancouver, BC Posts: 33	I hear ya Paul, it makes the audio input completely useless... I also shot while recording on the H4 the other day, and indeed the audio is out, but this supposed 99.9% fix seemed to be more like 99.9346 for me, and even that wasn't bang on... I would gladly chip in $100 if I could record from the zoom straight to the H4!

March 22nd, 2010, 09:50 AM	#22
David Ells Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beverly, MA Posts: 87	i'll chip.

March 22nd, 2010, 01:39 PM	#24
Jef Gibbons Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greater Vancouver, BC Posts: 33	Hi Paul, YUP! "Zoom to the H4"... doesn't make much sense does it! Yeah, if we could take the output of the zoom straight to the T2i with no AGC that would be amazing, but being a mic input on the T2i, I'm guessing the line signal from the H4 might be too loud anyhow. I'm actually a sound guy pretending to be a video guy, so syncing up in my DAW is no problem, but I can imagine it being tough for non-audio folks.

April 1st, 2010, 02:14 PM	#26
Ed Kishel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 80	is the reason that canon seems so hesitant to add firware features like AGC kill, zebra stripes, audio levels, etc is because they fear that a HDSLR full featured will take sales away from thier pro level video products? Like the H1 series?

April 2nd, 2010, 04:17 PM	#27
John Vincent Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,065	Perhaps. Of course, this camera already offers an amazing value. To be frank, I've always thought zebra stripes were over-rated (of course, most of what I shoot is at night) - if you need 'em that bad, get a light meter. MUCH more anoying is how the camera white balances - a dedicated button would make a lot more sense - even just for stills - then about any other upgrade. Second would be manual audio control, although for cameras this size I'm not sure how good the sound can possibly be (no xlrs). Remember that every pro film set uses a secondary sound recording source - and even then, as much as 80% of the dialouge will be looped anyway. For news gathering, I'd agree, but I think this cam is ill suited for that purpose. In the end, I don't think Canon would be too worried about their video camera sales - mainly because so few people will actually end up making features with the T2 (or even the Mark II). jdv

April 3rd, 2010, 06:34 PM	#28
David St. Juskow Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: new york city Posts: 113	Having been a t2i owner for a week, here's my magic lantern wish list. I have no idea if these are possible via firmware hacking or not, but- 1) enabling that "focus assist / magnification" button so that it works during video recording- wow, what a focusing lifesaver! would totally revolutionize the camera! 2) if there was some way to create an HD movie crop mode... that movie crop mode is awesome and brilliant- there's no reason why you couldn't do the same thing but with an HD frame size- obviously it's not going to magnify as much, but who cares- having a built-in telefoto like that is great. Shooting HD all the time, the SD movie crop is kinda limited, so why not tweak it a little? 3) all the usual obvious suspects- manual audio, etc. thanks! let me know when i can chip in...

April 9th, 2010, 10:56 AM	#29
Aaron Dunlap Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 49	I would definitely be in for this. The features of ML look amazing. One question though (speaking from complete ignorance on the subject), what is the big deal with syncing from something like H4N in post? Aren't the waveforms similar enough to line up the H4N/etc audio with whatever is recorded by the camera itself? Is it terribly noticeable if the audio is a few pixels of alignment off?

April 9th, 2010, 08:59 PM	#30
John Mastrogiacomo Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 85	There is nothing wrong with lining it up yourself. I do it that way all the time. You just have to make sure your NLE lets you move the audio in sub-frame increments. PP works fine.