HD-Out over HDMI while recording

Jon Fairhurst · March 1st, 2010, 07:35 PM

I have an Acer 23" monitor and it's great for a computer monitor and for reviewing clips from the camera. However, you can't use it as a monitor when recording on all Canon DvSLRs. It doesn't switch to 480 mode and locks up the 5D2.

Fei Meng · March 1st, 2010, 07:43 PM

Interesting. I wonder which or how many other monitors suffer from that issue.

Daniel von Euw · March 2nd, 2010, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Turchick

... bit of a disappointment but still very useable.

You think also usefull for follow focus things?

PS: I think if you set the camera on pal it will output a 576p signal.

Daniel

Emil Gustafsson Ryderup · March 2nd, 2010, 08:52 AM

"PS: I think if you set the camera on pal it will output a 576p signal."

i wish it could record in 720x576 (16x9).

Emil Gustafsson Ryderup · March 2nd, 2010, 02:19 PM

Can you have an external monitor and the LCD-display running at the same time? One for the operator and one for the focus puller?

Chris Hurd · March 2nd, 2010, 02:27 PM

No. The camera's LCD display panel is automatically turned off when cabling out via A/V or HDMI. There is no way around this that I'm aware of.

Robert Turchick · March 2nd, 2010, 02:37 PM

I had a similar thing happen with my HMC-150, needed to output to two monitors and the HDMI and component outs cancel each other. I got around this using an HDMI splitter from Kanex for $80. You will be locked into sending the 480p to both monitors though.

Robert Turchick · March 2nd, 2010, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel von Euw

You think also usefull for follow focus things?

PS: I think if you set the camera on pal it will output a 576p signal.

Yes I think it's fine for follow focus.

Randall Rodriguez · March 3rd, 2010, 10:46 AM

just tested my friends T2I - connected it to my LCD (PC) monitor via HDMI, and my monitor kept flashing black, then blue when I hit record (doesn't do this with 7D). I can only assume that it's doing this because it doesn't support the low resolution output of T2I (when recording). So under that assumption, I connected it to my SmallHD monitor - it worked, but at a very low resolution.

Much more difficult to determine focus IMO. I think most T2I users are better off pulling focus with the camera's LCD.

Stan Chase · March 3rd, 2010, 01:27 PM

Here's some interesting info:

Canon T2i/550D HDMI Output Footages

Chris Hurd · March 3rd, 2010, 02:09 PM

Compare these two images (click to embiggen). The first is the live HDMI output. Hopefully you can see how it's slightly windowed, plus there's the red recording icon. The second is the actual HDMI playback, which fills the screen as you'd expect. The overall wonkiness is due to the wide-angle lens of my little point & shoot digicam.

Michiel van Baasbank · March 21st, 2010, 01:34 AM

Still, do you guys think there's a big chance a Magic Lantern hack for the T2i will emerge soon and enables HD-output during record?

Jon Fairhurst · March 21st, 2010, 12:48 PM

It won't be soon. Tramm is focusing 100% on the new 5D2 2.0.4 firmware. After that, I believe that the 7D would be the next most likely. I have no idea if he even has a 550D/T2i right now, though he does have a 7D.

Bryan Harley · June 21st, 2010, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

I have an Acer 23" monitor and it's great for a computer monitor and for reviewing clips from the camera. However, you can't use it as a monitor when recording on all Canon DvSLRs. It doesn't switch to 480 mode and locks up the 5D2.

Yeah, I can confirm this. My Acer 23" does not play nice with my T2i via Mini-HDMI. When I hit record on the camera the monitor goes blank and the camera freezes up. Nothing is recorded.

Sam Tansey · June 21st, 2010, 07:17 AM

First post and someone who is about to buy a 550d, this thread made me curious.

Is there any reason that you cannot capture the 1080i live view output?

edit: one more related question, is there any possible way of viewing the 550d hdmi output wirelessly? ie if its running along a cable or attached to an RC helicopter?

March 1st, 2010, 07:35 PM	#31
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	I have an Acer 23" monitor and it's great for a computer monitor and for reviewing clips from the camera. However, you can't use it as a monitor when recording on all Canon DvSLRs. It doesn't switch to 480 mode and locks up the 5D2. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

March 1st, 2010, 07:43 PM	#32
Fei Meng Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 78	Interesting. I wonder which or how many other monitors suffer from that issue. __________________ Current cameras: Canon EOS Digital Rebel T2i (coming soon) \| Panasonic LUMIX DMC-GH1 \| Sony HDR-SR11 (infrared modded)

March 2nd, 2010, 02:27 PM	#36
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	No. The camera's LCD display panel is automatically turned off when cabling out via A/V or HDMI. There is no way around this that I'm aware of. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 2nd, 2010, 02:37 PM	#37
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	I had a similar thing happen with my HMC-150, needed to output to two monitors and the HDMI and component outs cancel each other. I got around this using an HDMI splitter from Kanex for $80. You will be locked into sending the 480p to both monitors though. __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

March 3rd, 2010, 01:27 PM	#40
Stan Chase Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 75	Here's some interesting info: Canon T2i/550D HDMI Output Footages __________________ [T2i/550D] [17-55 IS USM] [Zoom H2] [HoodLoupe/HoodMAG 3.0]

March 2nd, 2010, 08:52 AM	#34
Emil Gustafsson Ryderup New Boot Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 24	"PS: I think if you set the camera on pal it will output a 576p signal." i wish it could record in 720x576 (16x9).

March 2nd, 2010, 02:19 PM	#35
Emil Gustafsson Ryderup New Boot Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 24	Can you have an external monitor and the LCD-display running at the same time? One for the operator and one for the focus puller?

March 3rd, 2010, 10:46 AM	#39
Randall Rodriguez New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 19	just tested my friends T2I - connected it to my LCD (PC) monitor via HDMI, and my monitor kept flashing black, then blue when I hit record (doesn't do this with 7D). I can only assume that it's doing this because it doesn't support the low resolution output of T2I (when recording). So under that assumption, I connected it to my SmallHD monitor - it worked, but at a very low resolution. Much more difficult to determine focus IMO. I think most T2I users are better off pulling focus with the camera's LCD.

March 3rd, 2010, 02:09 PM	#41
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Compare these two images (click to embiggen). The first is the live HDMI output. Hopefully you can see how it's slightly windowed, plus there's the red recording icon. The second is the actual HDMI playback, which fills the screen as you'd expect. The overall wonkiness is due to the wide-angle lens of my little point & shoot digicam. Attached Thumbnails __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 21st, 2010, 01:34 AM	#42
Michiel van Baasbank Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 63	Still, do you guys think there's a big chance a Magic Lantern hack for the T2i will emerge soon and enables HD-output during record?

March 21st, 2010, 12:48 PM	#43
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	It won't be soon. Tramm is focusing 100% on the new 5D2 2.0.4 firmware. After that, I believe that the 7D would be the next most likely. I have no idea if he even has a 550D/T2i right now, though he does have a 7D. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

June 21st, 2010, 07:17 AM	#45
Sam Tansey Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 59	First post and someone who is about to buy a 550d, this thread made me curious. Is there any reason that you cannot capture the 1080i live view output? edit: one more related question, is there any possible way of viewing the 550d hdmi output wirelessly? ie if its running along a cable or attached to an RC helicopter?