Slow mo at 720 60p with 7D?

[Sean Seah]

Guys, I read a claim that slow mo can be done with the 7D at 720 50/60p. From what I know, 7D does not have native overcranking functions. The only way I see is to record in 50P and play back in 30p or 24p to "slow down" natively from the cam.

Pls enlighten me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

[Logan McMillan]

Switch the camera into NTSC from the menu and you can then shoot 60p 1280 x 720

Then use cinema tools (Mac only - not sure what the software is on a PC) to conform the 50 or 60p to 24 or 25p.

That is true slow motion.

Example: Every frame from 1 second of 50p gets matched to frames in 25p - So 50 frames becomes 2 seconds.

Hope that makes sense.

[Randall Rodriguez]

I use sony vegas, and all you have you have to do is right click the video clip, select properties and set footage to ".400". Which will make the 60fps footage, run at the speed of 24fps.

[Michael Nistler]

Originally Posted by Sean Seah

Guys, I read a claim that slow mo can be done with the 7D at 720 50/60p. From what I know, 7D does not have native overcranking functions. The only way I see is to record in 50P and play back in 30p or 24p to "slow down" natively from the cam.

Pls enlighten me if I'm wrong. Thanks!

Yes, you are correct - the Canon 7D does not overcrank. Indeed, it's done by sampling at its higher frame rate and playing it back at a lower time rate within the NLE.

Michael

[Logan McMillan]

"the Canon 7D does not overcrank. Indeed, it's done by sampling at its higher frame rate and playing it back at a lower time rate within the NLE."

Um......what do you think 'overcranking' is in the digital world? It shoots at 50 / 60p - just the same as any other camera that shoots at 50 / 60p.

[Jon Fairhurst]

True. However, it doesn't mark the file for 24p playback. When you play it back in the camera or NLE, it plays at full speed. You need to manually slow it down in the NLE.

Of course, the end result is the same. You just can't review the footage in the camera in slow mo.

[Bill Pryor]

Sorta like film. You've got to play it back at the standard speed after it's been shot at a faster speed, otherwise it wouldn't be slomo.

[Logan McMillan]

Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

True. However, it doesn't mark the file for 24p playback. When you play it back in the camera or NLE, it plays at full speed. You need to manually slow it down in the NLE.

Of course, the end result is the same. You just can't review the footage in the camera in slow mo.

On the 7D? You can play it back in slow motion - in the playback options to the right of 'play' is 'slow motion'.

Also - on a Mac you can batch conform all the movies into 24p using cinema tools. So they do playback as 24p.

[Jon Fairhurst]

Cool. I didn't know that. So the only thing missing is the ability to set the file header to 24p in the camera. That's pretty minor.

[Sean Seah]

thaz cool Logan. I didnt know we can watch in slow mo. I felt that a true overcranking camera is one that allows me to watch the footage natively in slow mo like the XDCAM EX series but this is interesting.

Just to push this further.. No way for the undercranking rite?

[Olof Ekbergh]

There is a difference in some cameras like the Sony EX series where the data-rate actually doubles when you over crank so each frame has as much information as a normal 30p frame even if you over crank to 60 fps at 30p. This makes for very clean over crank.

[Mike Calla]

Originally Posted by Logan McMillan

On the 7D? You can play it back in slow motion - in the playback options to the right of 'play' is 'slow motion'. (...)

Wow, that really helps a lot, thanks!!

[Logan McMillan]

Yeah - it took me awhile to notice the slow mo playback. Coming from the 5D it's just one of those menus that you don't pay much attention to.

[Ethan Lane]

Originally Posted by Randall Rodriguez

I use sony vegas, and all you have you have to do is right click the video clip, select properties and set footage to ".400". Which will make the 60fps footage, run at the speed of 24fps.

you can do it in final cut that way too, it's just better with cinema tools because you can do 23.976

[Mike Calla]

Originally Posted by Ethan Lane

you can do it in final cut that way too, it's just better with cinema tools because you can do 23.976

interesting!! So how do we get Vegas do to do exactly 23.976...?? I've never done this before!

In Vegas' properties box we can only input 3 digits. 60 to 23.976 would 0.3996. But we can only input 400 or 399?

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