cheap wide angle??

Manus Sweeney · February 17th, 2010, 11:25 AM

i'd probably use it with the 17-55 or as a last resort with the 18-135.. (77mm or 67mm threads)

Paul Cronin · February 17th, 2010, 03:24 PM

Well my Tokina 11-16 showed up today and it was for a Nikon. Frustrating to be told one thing and have the other show up.

I keep thinking of selling my 7d and going for a 5d to have all the great wide lens options. For me wide is key for my time laps.

Michael Maier · February 17th, 2010, 08:42 PM

The Zenitar 16mm is pretty affordable.

Manus Sweeney · February 18th, 2010, 01:14 AM

true enough but personally im covered pretty close with the 17-55 and wouldnt buy a new lens for only a millimeter of extra coverage :)

Jean-Philippe Archibald · February 18th, 2010, 06:50 AM

At the wide end, 1mm means a lot! going from 18 (29mm equivalent) to 15mm (24mm equivalent) is about as obvious in your framing as going from 200mm to 300mm.

Paul Cronin · February 18th, 2010, 07:32 AM

Agree I would like to have a 8-10mm that is decent quality.

Paul Cronin · February 21st, 2010, 10:36 AM

Since I can not find a Tokina 11-16 anywhere for sale. Did they stop making this?

Has anyone tried this lens?
Sigma | 10mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Fisheye Lens for Can | 477-101

Andy Wilkinson · February 21st, 2010, 12:36 PM

Don't know about that Sigma, but the Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 is still made (as far as I know) but is in such demand that every time a shipment arrives they all seem to be pre-sold/fly off the shelves...

As it happens, I bought a Canon 10-22mm (instead of the Tokina) for my 7D and I'm absolutely delighted with it's performance - see my objective personal comparison between the two for video use on the link below and judge for yourself if it's a worthy choice for your wide specific angle needs. Today, I've just returned from the Arctic - where it produced some stunning images! There are advantages and disadvantages between these two wide angle lenses (for both stills and video). Both get very highly rated on photography review sites but I hope this helps you narrow the choice.

CanonWideAngle

Paul Cronin · February 21st, 2010, 12:49 PM

Thanks Andy,

I had a Canon 10-22 on my Birger mount with the Red One and it was nice. Would go for it in a second if it was faster. That is what had me looking at the Sigma 10mm.

Should be going to NYC in a few weeks maybe I will wait and test a few options.

Andy Wilkinson · February 21st, 2010, 12:55 PM

There are rumours that Canon will eventually bring out a F2.0 wide angle - I think I read it somewhere on here that they have a patent for this - no idea how many months or years away that might be though!

Paul Cronin · February 21st, 2010, 01:14 PM

Thanks Andy if I can't wait I will go for the 10-22. Agree who know when Canon would bring out a 2.0 wide.

Olof Ekbergh · February 21st, 2010, 01:48 PM

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Lens Review

The above is a link to a review of the 10-22 Canon.

The site is very good for all Canon information. Mostly from a still photo viewpoint, but I find it very useful and full of information

Andy Wilkinson · February 21st, 2010, 02:22 PM

Yes that is an excellent site. And another useful link for this discussion...

Canon 10-22 F3.5-4.5 USM v Tokina 11-16 F2.8 ATX DX PRO Photo Gallery by lightrules at pbase.com

Paul Cronin · February 21st, 2010, 02:43 PM

Olof, Andy, great links thanks. I think this will do it for me I ordering a 10-22.

Olof do you have this lens on your new 7d?

Olof Ekbergh · February 21st, 2010, 03:03 PM

Paul,

I don't have that lens. I have not tried it yet. I have the 16-40L f4. It is a very nice lens, both on the 7 but on the 5DmkII it is really nice. One I often use on interior shots.

If you are still thinking of the 5DmkII, you may want to hold off. The 16-35l f2.8 is also a great lens and usable on FF cams later, but 2x the price. Though I am sure the 10-22 would be easy to sell with the 7D.

February 17th, 2010, 03:24 PM	#17
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Well my Tokina 11-16 showed up today and it was for a Nikon. Frustrating to be told one thing and have the other show up. I keep thinking of selling my 7d and going for a 5d to have all the great wide lens options. For me wide is key for my time laps. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

February 18th, 2010, 06:50 AM	#20
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	At the wide end, 1mm means a lot! going from 18 (29mm equivalent) to 15mm (24mm equivalent) is about as obvious in your framing as going from 200mm to 300mm. __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

February 18th, 2010, 07:32 AM	#21
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Agree I would like to have a 8-10mm that is decent quality. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

February 21st, 2010, 10:36 AM	#22
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Since I can not find a Tokina 11-16 anywhere for sale. Did they stop making this? Has anyone tried this lens? Sigma \| 10mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Fisheye Lens for Can \| 477-101 __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

February 21st, 2010, 12:36 PM	#23
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Don't know about that Sigma, but the Tokina 11-16mm F2.8 is still made (as far as I know) but is in such demand that every time a shipment arrives they all seem to be pre-sold/fly off the shelves... As it happens, I bought a Canon 10-22mm (instead of the Tokina) for my 7D and I'm absolutely delighted with it's performance - see my objective personal comparison between the two for video use on the link below and judge for yourself if it's a worthy choice for your wide specific angle needs. Today, I've just returned from the Arctic - where it produced some stunning images! There are advantages and disadvantages between these two wide angle lenses (for both stills and video). Both get very highly rated on photography review sites but I hope this helps you narrow the choice. CanonWideAngle __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

February 17th, 2010, 11:25 AM	#16
Manus Sweeney Major Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 217	i'd probably use it with the 17-55 or as a last resort with the 18-135.. (77mm or 67mm threads)

February 17th, 2010, 08:42 PM	#18
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	The Zenitar 16mm is pretty affordable.

February 18th, 2010, 01:14 AM	#19
Manus Sweeney Major Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 217	true enough but personally im covered pretty close with the 17-55 and wouldnt buy a new lens for only a millimeter of extra coverage :)

February 21st, 2010, 12:49 PM	#24
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Thanks Andy, I had a Canon 10-22 on my Birger mount with the Red One and it was nice. Would go for it in a second if it was faster. That is what had me looking at the Sigma 10mm. Should be going to NYC in a few weeks maybe I will wait and test a few options. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

February 21st, 2010, 12:55 PM	#25
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	There are rumours that Canon will eventually bring out a F2.0 wide angle - I think I read it somewhere on here that they have a patent for this - no idea how many months or years away that might be though! __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

February 21st, 2010, 01:14 PM	#26
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Thanks Andy if I can't wait I will go for the 10-22. Agree who know when Canon would bring out a 2.0 wide. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

February 21st, 2010, 01:48 PM	#27
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM Lens Review The above is a link to a review of the 10-22 Canon. The site is very good for all Canon information. Mostly from a still photo viewpoint, but I find it very useful and full of information

February 21st, 2010, 02:22 PM	#28
Andy Wilkinson Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 2,853	Yes that is an excellent site. And another useful link for this discussion... Canon 10-22 F3.5-4.5 USM v Tokina 11-16 F2.8 ATX DX PRO Photo Gallery by lightrules at pbase.com __________________ Andy K Wilkinson - https://www.shootingimage.co.uk Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production

February 21st, 2010, 02:43 PM	#29
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Olof, Andy, great links thanks. I think this will do it for me I ordering a 10-22. Olof do you have this lens on your new 7d? __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

February 21st, 2010, 03:03 PM	#30
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	Paul, I don't have that lens. I have not tried it yet. I have the 16-40L f4. It is a very nice lens, both on the 7 but on the 5DmkII it is really nice. One I often use on interior shots. If you are still thinking of the 5DmkII, you may want to hold off. The 16-35l f2.8 is also a great lens and usable on FF cams later, but 2x the price. Though I am sure the 10-22 would be easy to sell with the 7D.