Advice for T2i needed at DVinfo.net

Jean Rousseau · February 11th, 2010, 07:56 PM

Im in the process of pre-ordering the T2i but would like some advices about extra accessories I should also get.

Is the battery grip a must for the dual battery capacity? (I dont know how much a battery can last while filming) (plus it gives you a bigger grip because it is a really small camera)

About the memory card. what is the minimum speed for the SDHC card, is it class 6?
Just wondering because I have a 16gig class 4 card already in my possession.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

J-F

Bruce Foreman · February 13th, 2010, 08:10 PM

The T1i (I have one) requires a Class (6) card to insure being able to keep up with data writes, and I don't see any possibility of the T2i working reliably with a slower card. In addition to the class speed rating some have found out the T1i can be brand "finicky", so I would use the same 30Mbps SanDisk Extreme III cards in the T2i that I now use in the T1i.

The first card I used with mine was the 20Mbps Extreme III and it seemed to keep up OK and the next 2 I purchased were the newer 30Mbps version, all 3 are 8GB.

I would not risk using the Class (4) card you already have, you stand a good chance of seeing a buffer bar appear, fill up, and the recording would then shut down. Folks have lost video that way and that's a heckuva way to "find out".

I would order 2 extra batteries as soon as possible, video use will run them down fast (they will likely show amazing capacity for still photography, though). I would not mess with a "grip", one of the strong points about this camera will be it's fairly compact size and low weight. If you have to have "heft" and fuller size, go with the 7D.

None of these DSLRs have the right "form factor" for handheld video use even with a battery grip, for such use some kind of a "stabilizer" will be needed. One very inexpensive type to try would be the SpiderBrace 2 (with extra Combo grip home) at around $100 shipped, or the half priced version at Easy Brace

Another absolutely necessary accessory will be some kind of viewfinder loupe. I use the CAVISION with mounting hardware. While B&H carries the CAVISION MHE52 I would contact CAVISION in Canada directly by phone because the T2i (like the T1i) will require an extra spacing "riser" part to raise the camera up to the level of the mounted MHE52 LCD viewfinder and B&H doesn't list anything but a few basic parts. What is shown in pictures is generally for the 5D MkII.

The MHE52 uses a 6X eyepiece (which is quite large) that affords a clear magnified view of the whole LCD. Here is a picture of the whole rig with the my 7D (with the T1i the loupe fit a tad high on the LCD but was still quite usable). The image is with post #26 in this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...rnative-2.html

This T2i is going to be one heckuva camera that not only will do good video but will be a great still camera. And despite some people's putting the 18-55mm "kit" lens down it's not a bad lens at all (I just hung a 16x20 print from an image shot with the original 300D Rebel and the earliest version of that "kit" lens. I'm on my 3rd Digital Rebel and have not had a bad "kit" lens with one yet. Not "L" glass but it works!

Michael Simons · February 14th, 2010, 05:05 PM

How long of a movie clip can the t2i record? The 7D can do 12 minutes. Thank you.

Chris Hurd · February 15th, 2010, 01:52 AM

T2i video = 7D video. 4GB clip length limit; about 12 minutes of 1080 HD per clip.

Joe Ogiba · February 16th, 2010, 08:13 PM

Get a Sandisk Extreme 30mb/sec SDHC card and not worry about dropped frames.

David St. Juskow · July 6th, 2010, 02:07 PM

I still don't have a focusing device for the camera and I'm not sure what I would get- they're either too expensive or not that good - there's no single great deal that way, sadly, that I've found yet. I will say, however, that after just putting the camera through its first REAL shoot, 5 days in the hot, hot sun outside, that using a big black cloth draped over my head and the camera, like a photographer would do in 1906, did wonders. First, it made focusing really easy (using the magnification feature, of course. I should add these were locked-down shots. Hand-held is a different beast.) Second, it made framing easy since, in that dark space you've created under the cloth, the screen is incredibly sharp and easy to compose with. Third, my camera used to overheat outside after 20 minutes or so before using the cloth, but now, the cloth seems to absorb the heat and keeps the camera- I wouldn't say cool, but cool enough to not over heat (yet.) The battery belt seems like a total waste since batteries are so cheap and you can only shoot 12 continuous minutes, but I guess there might be scenarios where it's really useful. Only get one if you find yourself in those scenarios, though!

David St. Juskow · July 6th, 2010, 09:59 PM

p.s. as of a couple of months ago, the best deal for cards was clearly the TRANSCEND CLASS 6 16gb cards for around $45. They are the cheapest "reliable brand" cards there are. You can pay way more for SanDisk, and get the same performance, or pay less for PATRIOT and have them crap out on you, as many people have stated on this forum. But Transcend works great for the T2i's capabilities.

Aaron Dunlap · July 8th, 2010, 10:44 AM

Some here have mentioned the fact that overheating on the T2i tends to be lessened when using a battery grip. A grip is definitely on my buy list, but I am a wedding/event/portrait photographer videographer, so I need all the juice I can get. There are plenty of aftermarket grips out now that are insanely cheap ($29.95 for a grip with no batteries included, $39.95 with 2 batteries, and $49.95 with 4).

I like many 8gb cards vs fewer 16gb cards. Less chance of losing a whole lot of data if one card goes bad. Plus its cheaper to get into.

Beyond that, save for good lenses obviously (unless you already have those), and get some sort of stabilization gear for doing video. Tons of DIY stuff is out there if you dont want to drop $1500 on a gorilla rig from Zacuto (there are also full shoulder rigs on ebay that can be had for around $300).

February 11th, 2010, 07:56 PM	#1
Jean Rousseau Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38	Advice for T2i needed Im in the process of pre-ordering the T2i but would like some advices about extra accessories I should also get. Is the battery grip a must for the dual battery capacity? (I dont know how much a battery can last while filming) (plus it gives you a bigger grip because it is a really small camera) About the memory card. what is the minimum speed for the SDHC card, is it class 6? Just wondering because I have a 16gig class 4 card already in my possession. Thanks in advance for your replies. J-F

February 15th, 2010, 01:52 AM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	T2i video = 7D video. 4GB clip length limit; about 12 minutes of 1080 HD per clip. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 13th, 2010, 08:10 PM	#2
Bruce Foreman Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Angelo Texas Posts: 1,518	The T1i (I have one) requires a Class (6) card to insure being able to keep up with data writes, and I don't see any possibility of the T2i working reliably with a slower card. In addition to the class speed rating some have found out the T1i can be brand "finicky", so I would use the same 30Mbps SanDisk Extreme III cards in the T2i that I now use in the T1i. The first card I used with mine was the 20Mbps Extreme III and it seemed to keep up OK and the next 2 I purchased were the newer 30Mbps version, all 3 are 8GB. I would not risk using the Class (4) card you already have, you stand a good chance of seeing a buffer bar appear, fill up, and the recording would then shut down. Folks have lost video that way and that's a heckuva way to "find out". I would order 2 extra batteries as soon as possible, video use will run them down fast (they will likely show amazing capacity for still photography, though). I would not mess with a "grip", one of the strong points about this camera will be it's fairly compact size and low weight. If you have to have "heft" and fuller size, go with the 7D. None of these DSLRs have the right "form factor" for handheld video use even with a battery grip, for such use some kind of a "stabilizer" will be needed. One very inexpensive type to try would be the SpiderBrace 2 (with extra Combo grip home) at around $100 shipped, or the half priced version at Easy Brace Another absolutely necessary accessory will be some kind of viewfinder loupe. I use the CAVISION with mounting hardware. While B&H carries the CAVISION MHE52 I would contact CAVISION in Canada directly by phone because the T2i (like the T1i) will require an extra spacing "riser" part to raise the camera up to the level of the mounted MHE52 LCD viewfinder and B&H doesn't list anything but a few basic parts. What is shown in pictures is generally for the 5D MkII. The MHE52 uses a 6X eyepiece (which is quite large) that affords a clear magnified view of the whole LCD. Here is a picture of the whole rig with the my 7D (with the T1i the loupe fit a tad high on the LCD but was still quite usable). The image is with post #26 in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...rnative-2.html This T2i is going to be one heckuva camera that not only will do good video but will be a great still camera. And despite some people's putting the 18-55mm "kit" lens down it's not a bad lens at all (I just hung a 16x20 print from an image shot with the original 300D Rebel and the earliest version of that "kit" lens. I'm on my 3rd Digital Rebel and have not had a bad "kit" lens with one yet. Not "L" glass but it works!

February 14th, 2010, 05:05 PM	#3
Michael Simons Major Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Red Bank, NJ Posts: 553	How long of a movie clip can the t2i record? The 7D can do 12 minutes. Thank you.

February 16th, 2010, 08:13 PM	#5
Joe Ogiba Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 194	Get a Sandisk Extreme 30mb/sec SDHC card and not worry about dropped frames.

July 6th, 2010, 02:07 PM	#6
David St. Juskow Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: new york city Posts: 113	I still don't have a focusing device for the camera and I'm not sure what I would get- they're either too expensive or not that good - there's no single great deal that way, sadly, that I've found yet. I will say, however, that after just putting the camera through its first REAL shoot, 5 days in the hot, hot sun outside, that using a big black cloth draped over my head and the camera, like a photographer would do in 1906, did wonders. First, it made focusing really easy (using the magnification feature, of course. I should add these were locked-down shots. Hand-held is a different beast.) Second, it made framing easy since, in that dark space you've created under the cloth, the screen is incredibly sharp and easy to compose with. Third, my camera used to overheat outside after 20 minutes or so before using the cloth, but now, the cloth seems to absorb the heat and keeps the camera- I wouldn't say cool, but cool enough to not over heat (yet.) The battery belt seems like a total waste since batteries are so cheap and you can only shoot 12 continuous minutes, but I guess there might be scenarios where it's really useful. Only get one if you find yourself in those scenarios, though!

July 6th, 2010, 09:59 PM	#7
David St. Juskow Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: new york city Posts: 113	p.s. as of a couple of months ago, the best deal for cards was clearly the TRANSCEND CLASS 6 16gb cards for around $45. They are the cheapest "reliable brand" cards there are. You can pay way more for SanDisk, and get the same performance, or pay less for PATRIOT and have them crap out on you, as many people have stated on this forum. But Transcend works great for the T2i's capabilities.

July 8th, 2010, 10:44 AM	#8
Aaron Dunlap Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 49	Some here have mentioned the fact that overheating on the T2i tends to be lessened when using a battery grip. A grip is definitely on my buy list, but I am a wedding/event/portrait photographer videographer, so I need all the juice I can get. There are plenty of aftermarket grips out now that are insanely cheap ($29.95 for a grip with no batteries included, $39.95 with 2 batteries, and $49.95 with 4). I like many 8gb cards vs fewer 16gb cards. Less chance of losing a whole lot of data if one card goes bad. Plus its cheaper to get into. Beyond that, save for good lenses obviously (unless you already have those), and get some sort of stabilization gear for doing video. Tons of DIY stuff is out there if you dont want to drop $1500 on a gorilla rig from Zacuto (there are also full shoulder rigs on ebay that can be had for around $300).