77mm Fader ND Filter at DVinfo.net

Jeff Reagan · November 4th, 2009, 10:23 PM

I'm about to purchase a 77mm Fader ND filter which fits these three lenses:

17-40mm F4L
24-105mm F4L
EF-S 10-22mm F3.5

Does anyone know if this filter vignettes with any of these lenses and, if it does, how much? Thanks!

Craig Coston · November 4th, 2009, 11:17 PM

I can't comment on those lenses, but I can say that I went the cheaper route and bought a linear polarizer to stack with my existing 72mm circular polarizer and use it as a variable ND on my 28-135 lens. It works fine. If you have concerns about vignetting, why not just purchase a step up ring and the next size up of the filter you want? 77 to 82mm step up rings are less than $10 at B&H I believe.

Jeff Reagan · November 4th, 2009, 11:43 PM

The 77mm Fader ND is $108.

Thanks for the advice, but I currently don't have any 82mm filters. I'd need to purchase the step-up ring and both of the 82mm polarizing filters. How much would that cost? (I suspect far more than $108)

David Chapman · November 5th, 2009, 04:44 PM

Where do you purchase a Fader ND? I can only find normal ND filters on B&H and Google searching only shows blog posts and discussion topics about them (including this thread).

Jeff Reagan · November 5th, 2009, 04:50 PM

Here is the link that I've seen to purchase:

Online Shop - Fader ND

Glen Elliott · November 6th, 2009, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Reagan

Does anyone know if this filter vignettes with any of these lenses and, if it does, how much? Thanks!

I can't imagine encountering any vignetting with the 7D due to it's 1.6x crop.

Jon Fairhurst · November 6th, 2009, 11:28 AM

You'd only have to worry about vignetting with EF-S lenses. But they usually have small thread diameters, so you'd be using a step up to 77mm, before the Fader ND. Vignetting is highly unlikely.

Nigel Barker · November 8th, 2009, 04:24 PM

The 77mm Fader ND is basically an 82mm filter in a 77mm step-down ring so I would be amazed if there was any vignetting with the 1.6X crop of the 7D.

Richard Hunter · November 8th, 2009, 06:32 PM

Has anyone here tried this fader ND? What is the quality like?

Richard

Nate Haustein · November 8th, 2009, 07:27 PM

Like it. A lot. Like a second iris control on front of the camera. Shot all day with it and it worked great: excellent quality and no vignetting on a Canon 24-105mm. Only thing is that the lens hood has to go on the lens after the filter because of the 82mm filter size.

Richard Hunter · November 9th, 2009, 01:38 AM

OK, thanks Nate.

Richard

Evan C. King · December 2nd, 2009, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Haustein

Like it. A lot. Like a second iris control on front of the camera. Shot all day with it and it worked great: excellent quality and no vignetting on a Canon 24-105mm. Only thing is that the lens hood has to go on the lens after the filter because of the 82mm filter size.

Nate what hood do you have that fits over it?

Nate Haustein · December 2nd, 2009, 02:39 AM

Stock hood that comes with Canon 24-105mm F4L. Model number is EW-83H.

I might be more clear - the hood needs to go on first, then you need to screw on the filter somehow. My earlier post was misleading, my apologies, the lens has to go on after the hood.

Dale Baglo · December 2nd, 2009, 03:13 AM

I wonder how the Fader ND compares to the Singh-Ray. That's the one I was thinking of getting, along with a 58 to 77mm step up.

Singh-Ray | 77mm Vari-ND Variable Neutral | VARI-NDTHIN77MM

Dan Chung · December 2nd, 2009, 05:41 AM

The Fader ND will work on all the lenses you list but on the 10-22 you might get some vignetting especially if using the camera for stills. In video the 16x9 frame crop should cut most of the vignette out if there is any.

November 4th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#1
Jeff Reagan Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 28	77mm Fader ND Filter I'm about to purchase a 77mm Fader ND filter which fits these three lenses: 17-40mm F4L 24-105mm F4L EF-S 10-22mm F3.5 Does anyone know if this filter vignettes with any of these lenses and, if it does, how much? Thanks!

November 4th, 2009, 11:43 PM	#3
Jeff Reagan Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 28	The 77mm Fader ND is $108. Thanks for the advice, but I currently don't have any 82mm filters. I'd need to purchase the step-up ring and both of the 82mm polarizing filters. How much would that cost? (I suspect far more than $108) Last edited by Jeff Reagan; November 5th, 2009 at 08:06 AM.

November 5th, 2009, 04:44 PM	#4
David Chapman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	Where do you purchase a Fader ND? I can only find normal ND filters on B&H and Google searching only shows blog posts and discussion topics about them (including this thread). __________________ David Chapman www.davechapfilms.com

November 5th, 2009, 04:50 PM	#5
Jeff Reagan Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 28	Fader ND Purchase Here is the link that I've seen to purchase: Online Shop - Fader ND

November 6th, 2009, 11:28 AM	#7
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	You'd only have to worry about vignetting with EF-S lenses. But they usually have small thread diameters, so you'd be using a step up to 77mm, before the Fader ND. Vignetting is highly unlikely. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

November 4th, 2009, 11:17 PM	#2
Craig Coston Major Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 232	I can't comment on those lenses, but I can say that I went the cheaper route and bought a linear polarizer to stack with my existing 72mm circular polarizer and use it as a variable ND on my 28-135 lens. It works fine. If you have concerns about vignetting, why not just purchase a step up ring and the next size up of the filter you want? 77 to 82mm step up rings are less than $10 at B&H I believe.

November 8th, 2009, 04:24 PM	#8
Nigel Barker Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Posts: 3,531	The 77mm Fader ND is basically an 82mm filter in a 77mm step-down ring so I would be amazed if there was any vignetting with the 1.6X crop of the 7D.

November 8th, 2009, 06:32 PM	#9
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Has anyone here tried this fader ND? What is the quality like? Richard

November 8th, 2009, 07:27 PM	#10
Nate Haustein Trustee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,313	Like it. A lot. Like a second iris control on front of the camera. Shot all day with it and it worked great: excellent quality and no vignetting on a Canon 24-105mm. Only thing is that the lens hood has to go on the lens after the filter because of the 82mm filter size. __________________ Nate Haustein PXW-FX9 / FCPX www.flightcreativemedia.com

November 9th, 2009, 01:38 AM	#11
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	OK, thanks Nate. Richard

December 2nd, 2009, 02:39 AM	#13
Nate Haustein Trustee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,313	Stock hood that comes with Canon 24-105mm F4L. Model number is EW-83H. I might be more clear - the hood needs to go on first, then you need to screw on the filter somehow. My earlier post was misleading, my apologies, the lens has to go on after the hood. __________________ Nate Haustein PXW-FX9 / FCPX www.flightcreativemedia.com

December 2nd, 2009, 03:13 AM	#14
Dale Baglo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 64	I wonder how the Fader ND compares to the Singh-Ray. That's the one I was thinking of getting, along with a 58 to 77mm step up. Singh-Ray \| 77mm Vari-ND Variable Neutral \| VARI-NDTHIN77MM __________________ Need a narration? www.dalebaglo.com

December 2nd, 2009, 05:41 AM	#15
Dan Chung Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Beijing Posts: 665	The Fader ND will work on all the lenses you list but on the 10-22 you might get some vignetting especially if using the camera for stills. In video the 16x9 frame crop should cut most of the vignette out if there is any.