DVi Review: Learn 2 Shoot Great Video on Your Canon 7D with Philip Bloom DVD at DVinfo.net

Jenn Kramer · October 26th, 2009, 06:13 PM

Our review of F-Stop Academy's newest release is up:

Review: Learn 2 Shoot Great Video on Your Canon 7D with Philip Bloom DV Info Net

Comments, questions and corrections welcome!

David Chapman · October 26th, 2009, 09:01 PM

I would love to see some of Philip Bloom's secrets in creating some of his shots, but this sounds more like something you can get from blogs online about the camera. Does he actually go into detail on creating some of that Bloom essence or is it all pretty basic for a more "experienced" DSLR shooter?

I just don't want to watch a video telling me how to change settings on my 7D. Settings he or others have already blogged about.

Jenn Kramer · October 26th, 2009, 10:26 PM

If you spend a lot of time on the forums and reading blogs you're probably not going to get a lot that you haven't heard somewhere else already, especially if you followed the 5D. Aside from the obvious differences, actually using the cameras is pretty similar. It is nice to see someone doing it, but take into account that the video's only an hour. If you're an experienced DSLR shooter and have video experience, there's going to be less for you than someone coming from just a video or photo background or someone completely new to media production.

If you're interested in hearing some stuff from him about the look you might want to check out the thing they have up on F-Stop Academy for free right now:

Learn to Create the Film Look

They also might have some behind-the-scenes stuff for ____'s People in there somewhere.

I'm somewhat torn on the price point. On one hand, I know how much time and energy this stuff takes to produce, and this DVD is a polished presentation. On the other, I know how popular the 7D is and how many people want to shoot video with it, and it seems like a lower price point might allow a broader reach. At a lower price it would be a no-brainer for anyone interested in HD with the 7D, especially with digital distribution and no media cost/instant gratification. That's Philip and Dennis's call, though, it's their DVD and it's your call on whether or not you think it's worth it for you.

David Chapman · October 26th, 2009, 10:59 PM

Ok, thanks. That's what I was thinking. I would have dropped $50 or so just to check it out—even if it was slightly redundant info.

Bruce S. Yarock · October 27th, 2009, 02:50 AM

Where is the dvd for sale?
bruce yarock

Jenn Kramer · October 27th, 2009, 08:46 AM

It's available as a digital download now, the DVDs will be available in a week or so. I think Zacuto might be taking pre-orders:

Philip Bloom Blog Archive 7D and 5DmkII training videos now available as digital downloads

Michael Nistler · October 27th, 2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenn Kramer

Our review of F-Stop Academy's newest release is up:

Review: Learn 2 Shoot Great Video on Your Canon 7D with Philip Bloom DV Info Net

Comments, questions and corrections welcome!

Excellent review, Jenn!! Your write-up was clear, detailed, and candid with lots of insights. As an owner of Philip's 5D DVD, I also appreciate your effort to compare and contrast the two DVDs as well as the intended target audience.

On this or another forum, some were rumoring that owners of Philip's "Learn 5D Mark II Canon Cinematography" DVD would be entitled free access to the download version of the upcoming 7D video. Is this correct?

Incidentally, as of today the only place the media (DVD or download) seems to be available is here - it's not on the F-Stop Academy website.

LearnDSLRvideo - Learn 2 shoot great video on your Canon 7D with Philip Bloom (Instant Access Download)

*** Correction ***
While google isn't picking this up, indeed I find the DVD and download at Philip's personal website here:

http://philipbloom.co.uk/2009/10/26/...tal-downloads/

Again, thanks for providing an excellent review!

Michael

Jenn Kramer · October 27th, 2009, 11:55 AM

Thanks, Michael. I haven't heard anything about a free or discounted digital download of the 7D disc, you'd have to ask Phil.

Roberto Lanczos · October 27th, 2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Nistler

On this or another forum, some were rumoring that owners of Philip's "Learn 5D Mark II Canon Cinematography" DVD would be entitled free access to the download version of the upcoming 7D video. Is this correct?

Is not a rumor. It was stated somewhere in this forum.
I'm really counting on it

i bought the 5D DVD just a week ago to start doing some practice with my 7D, and i just can't believe the 7D DVD is out.

so unfair.

At least free access to the relevant chapters for the 7D Users would be great.

Jenn Kramer · October 27th, 2009, 02:30 PM

FWIW, the 7D DVD was announced on the 13th:

Philip Bloom Blog Archive 7D Video training DVD/ digital download coming soon

Michael Nistler · October 28th, 2009, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenn Kramer

Thanks, Michael. I haven't heard anything about a free or discounted digital download of the 7D disc, you'd have to ask Phil.

Okay, I'll let y'all know the status when I've received Philip's response...

Regards, Michael

Lloyd Ubshura · November 9th, 2009, 11:38 AM

Don't want to sound like a big jerk, but $100+ for a DVD? Ouch! I'm not saying that the value isn't there for some, but I can buy a movie DVD for $15 that cost the producers millions to produce.

I would probably spend up to $50 on something like this, but even that would be pushing it. I think the DVD is probably great, and I want it, but just my comments would be it's very pricey!

I'm going to have to pass. :(

Jon Fairhurst · November 9th, 2009, 12:47 PM

It's not rare for specialty training videos to be expensive. They have a very small target market, so they generally charge a lot to try to make their money back.

That said, you don't need to spend the money, if you don't want to. I think it depends on how you learn. Some people learn best by reading manuals, watching videos and such. Others learn by exploring and trying things hands-on. I'm in the second group, so I tend not to buy training stuff. For people in the first group, it could be an excellent investment.

Anders Dahl · April 10th, 2010, 02:58 AM

Does Philip talk about sliders in this video?

Chris Westerstrom · April 10th, 2010, 04:23 AM

i bought it, found it very useful at times, but not nearly as useful as this forum!

For the price, I thought they could have included a bit more detail. There was far too much about what gear you need as opposed to a guide about settings and even getting started with the basics.

Some of the stuff was, however, invaluable, so I am glad I did get it.

October 26th, 2009, 06:13 PM	#1
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	DVi Review: Learn 2 Shoot Great Video on Your Canon 7D with Philip Bloom DVD Our review of F-Stop Academy's newest release is up: Review: Learn 2 Shoot Great Video on Your Canon 7D with Philip Bloom DV Info Net Comments, questions and corrections welcome!

October 26th, 2009, 09:01 PM	#2
David Chapman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	I would love to see some of Philip Bloom's secrets in creating some of his shots, but this sounds more like something you can get from blogs online about the camera. Does he actually go into detail on creating some of that Bloom essence or is it all pretty basic for a more "experienced" DSLR shooter? I just don't want to watch a video telling me how to change settings on my 7D. Settings he or others have already blogged about. __________________ David Chapman www.davechapfilms.com

October 26th, 2009, 10:59 PM	#4
David Chapman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	Ok, thanks. That's what I was thinking. I would have dropped $50 or so just to check it out—even if it was slightly redundant info. __________________ David Chapman www.davechapfilms.com

November 9th, 2009, 12:47 PM	#13
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	It's not rare for specialty training videos to be expensive. They have a very small target market, so they generally charge a lot to try to make their money back. That said, you don't need to spend the money, if you don't want to. I think it depends on how you learn. Some people learn best by reading manuals, watching videos and such. Others learn by exploring and trying things hands-on. I'm in the second group, so I tend not to buy training stuff. For people in the first group, it could be an excellent investment. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

October 26th, 2009, 10:26 PM	#3
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	If you spend a lot of time on the forums and reading blogs you're probably not going to get a lot that you haven't heard somewhere else already, especially if you followed the 5D. Aside from the obvious differences, actually using the cameras is pretty similar. It is nice to see someone doing it, but take into account that the video's only an hour. If you're an experienced DSLR shooter and have video experience, there's going to be less for you than someone coming from just a video or photo background or someone completely new to media production. If you're interested in hearing some stuff from him about the look you might want to check out the thing they have up on F-Stop Academy for free right now: Learn to Create the Film Look They also might have some behind-the-scenes stuff for ____'s People in there somewhere. I'm somewhat torn on the price point. On one hand, I know how much time and energy this stuff takes to produce, and this DVD is a polished presentation. On the other, I know how popular the 7D is and how many people want to shoot video with it, and it seems like a lower price point might allow a broader reach. At a lower price it would be a no-brainer for anyone interested in HD with the 7D, especially with digital distribution and no media cost/instant gratification. That's Philip and Dennis's call, though, it's their DVD and it's your call on whether or not you think it's worth it for you.

October 27th, 2009, 02:50 AM	#5
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Where is the dvd for sale? bruce yarock

October 27th, 2009, 08:46 AM	#6
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	It's available as a digital download now, the DVDs will be available in a week or so. I think Zacuto might be taking pre-orders: Philip Bloom Blog Archive 7D and 5DmkII training videos now available as digital downloads

October 27th, 2009, 11:55 AM	#8
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	Thanks, Michael. I haven't heard anything about a free or discounted digital download of the 7D disc, you'd have to ask Phil.

October 27th, 2009, 02:30 PM	#10
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	FWIW, the 7D DVD was announced on the 13th: Philip Bloom Blog Archive 7D Video training DVD/ digital download coming soon

November 9th, 2009, 11:38 AM	#12
Lloyd Ubshura Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 204	Don't want to sound like a big jerk, but $100+ for a DVD? Ouch! I'm not saying that the value isn't there for some, but I can buy a movie DVD for $15 that cost the producers millions to produce. I would probably spend up to $50 on something like this, but even that would be pushing it. I think the DVD is probably great, and I want it, but just my comments would be it's very pricey! I'm going to have to pass. :(

April 10th, 2010, 02:58 AM	#14
Anders Dahl New Boot Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7	Does Philip talk about sliders in this video?

April 10th, 2010, 04:23 AM	#15
Chris Westerstrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 259	i bought it, found it very useful at times, but not nearly as useful as this forum! For the price, I thought they could have included a bit more detail. There was far too much about what gear you need as opposed to a guide about settings and even getting started with the basics. Some of the stuff was, however, invaluable, so I am glad I did get it.