Audio for 7D what are you doing.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · October 23rd, 2009, 11:08 AM

No, my soundman is feeding me a signal from the mixer. Shotgun - mixer - h4n

Brian Boyko · October 23rd, 2009, 11:48 AM

Rode Videomic directly in-cam for the simple projects, seperate-sync Zoom H4n for the big ones.

David Chapman · October 23rd, 2009, 03:11 PM

What am I doing? Ha!

I had to shoot an interview last week (first week owning the camera) and knew it would work great for the footage since I have a fast lens. The audio was going to be my hiccup.

I captured the audio into my Macbook Pro with an M Box Mini 2 (XLR input through USB). I had my shotgun mic on a boom to sit right under her out of frame. It took about 10 sec to perfectly match up the on camera sound with the high quality Garage Band live capture.

It seems like it's a hassle to do it that way, but hey, it worked and I could monitor and backup everything right there.

John C. Plunkett · October 23rd, 2009, 04:19 PM

Will a microphone like the Sennheiser MKE 400 pick up the camera noise like the internal mic does?

Kirk Graham · October 23rd, 2009, 04:27 PM

Paul

I think he says his sound man is running the shotgun on a boom over the talent so it will pick up the voice better over the noise

what he is in a whole different ball park with the audio aq.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · October 23rd, 2009, 06:56 PM

Yes Kirk,

I might not have been enough clear. My fault. English is a foreign language for me. I wasn't using the H4n mkes.

Jerry Porter · October 23rd, 2009, 08:56 PM

I can tell you the BeachTek is one way not to go. It's pretty much worthless. I have one and the only pro to it is that you can hook up XLR to the 7D. But the mount is off and the meters are not worth anything and the headphone out put is pretty much non existent. Save your money on this POS.

Nathan Moody · October 23rd, 2009, 11:52 PM

I run double system into a Sound Devices 702, to allow for oversampling audio for extra processing headroom before aliasing, and to leverage those sweet SD preamps and limiters. For really simple audio, I don't even strap a mixer in front of it, to keep things simple, lightweight, and streamlined.

I found all of Zoom's preamps too noisy for my taste, but YMMV!

Kirk Graham · October 24th, 2009, 06:17 AM

has anyone else run wireless right to the cam? i have tried my Sen. and AT wireless and they are both noisy went plugged into the cam.

Kirk Candlish · October 28th, 2009, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Parker

Like the rest of you I am doing double sound. I have a 10-30db XLR attenuator that I can pluig into the line level XLR socket of my mixpre mixer.

Are you referring to a Sound Devices MixPre ?

If so, I'm confused by how you setting it up with the attenuator.

Roger Shealy · October 28th, 2009, 05:41 AM

I already have a Zoom H2. Anybody compared the quality of that vs the H4N for working with the 7D?

Kirk Graham · October 28th, 2009, 07:54 AM

roger

i think the quality will be ok the H4n just has a ton more pro features

I just got mine 2days ago and i can feed it in to the cam for reference and capture on the zoom at normal levels with the AGC on it blows out the audio on the cam!!!

I hope that Magic lantern gets the 7D up and going soon now that the firmware up date has come out and he has something to work from.

any word on progress ??

Jeff Wisener · October 30th, 2009, 01:07 PM

My solution for making videos at the level I am at (making instructional videos for my classes) I bought a Nady wireless mic system. It is only mono but when editing in vegas I was able to get it on both channels & the system wiped out the background noise I was getting off the internal mic. I am sure there are better set ups but for $50 it did the trick for me.

October 23rd, 2009, 11:08 AM	#16
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	No, my soundman is feeding me a signal from the mixer. Shotgun - mixer - h4n __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

October 23rd, 2009, 11:48 AM	#17
Brian Boyko Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 773	Rode Videomic directly in-cam for the simple projects, seperate-sync Zoom H4n for the big ones. __________________ Equip: Panny GH1, Canon HG20, Juicedlink, AT897, Sennh. EW/GW100, Zoom H2, Vegas 8.1

October 23rd, 2009, 03:11 PM	#18
David Chapman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	What am I doing? Ha! I had to shoot an interview last week (first week owning the camera) and knew it would work great for the footage since I have a fast lens. The audio was going to be my hiccup. I captured the audio into my Macbook Pro with an M Box Mini 2 (XLR input through USB). I had my shotgun mic on a boom to sit right under her out of frame. It took about 10 sec to perfectly match up the on camera sound with the high quality Garage Band live capture. It seems like it's a hassle to do it that way, but hey, it worked and I could monitor and backup everything right there. __________________ David Chapman www.davechapfilms.com

October 23rd, 2009, 04:27 PM	#20
Kirk Graham Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 137	mic Paul I think he says his sound man is running the shotgun on a boom over the talent so it will pick up the voice better over the noise what he is in a whole different ball park with the audio aq.

October 23rd, 2009, 06:56 PM	#21
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Yes Kirk, I might not have been enough clear. My fault. English is a foreign language for me. I wasn't using the H4n mkes. __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

October 23rd, 2009, 04:19 PM	#19
John C. Plunkett Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Illinois Posts: 130	Will a microphone like the Sennheiser MKE 400 pick up the camera noise like the internal mic does?

October 23rd, 2009, 08:56 PM	#22
Jerry Porter Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Satellite Beach, Fl Posts: 784	I can tell you the BeachTek is one way not to go. It's pretty much worthless. I have one and the only pro to it is that you can hook up XLR to the 7D. But the mount is off and the meters are not worth anything and the headphone out put is pretty much non existent. Save your money on this POS.

October 23rd, 2009, 11:52 PM	#23
Nathan Moody Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 78	I run double system into a Sound Devices 702, to allow for oversampling audio for extra processing headroom before aliasing, and to leverage those sweet SD preamps and limiters. For really simple audio, I don't even strap a mixer in front of it, to keep things simple, lightweight, and streamlined. I found all of Zoom's preamps too noisy for my taste, but YMMV! __________________ designer of media for eyes and ears sound design and field recording at http://www.noisejockey.net/blog

October 24th, 2009, 06:17 AM	#24
Kirk Graham Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 137	wireless noise has anyone else run wireless right to the cam? i have tried my Sen. and AT wireless and they are both noisy went plugged into the cam.

October 28th, 2009, 05:41 AM	#26
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	I already have a Zoom H2. Anybody compared the quality of that vs the H4N for working with the 7D?

October 28th, 2009, 07:54 AM	#27
Kirk Graham Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 137	h2 roger i think the quality will be ok the H4n just has a ton more pro features I just got mine 2days ago and i can feed it in to the cam for reference and capture on the zoom at normal levels with the AGC on it blows out the audio on the cam!!! I hope that Magic lantern gets the 7D up and going soon now that the firmware up date has come out and he has something to work from. any word on progress ??

October 30th, 2009, 01:07 PM	#28
Jeff Wisener Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oceanside Ca & Bali Indonesia Posts: 158	My solution for making videos at the level I am at (making instructional videos for my classes) I bought a Nady wireless mic system. It is only mono but when editing in vegas I was able to get it on both channels & the system wiped out the background noise I was getting off the internal mic. I am sure there are better set ups but for $50 it did the trick for me.