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Kirk Graham · October 6th, 2009, 10:01 AM

Wow is this thing cool i am an outdoor tv producer/videographer and i just got my kit today! i couldnt wait for the body only so i got the kit with the 18-135 and it is amazing! i shot some 720 60 and put the card in the reader and dropped in the FS2 time line and bingo! This will become an tool that is used everyday in production i am just waiting on the beachtek to run the mics. for now the wireless works great! I will start filming hunts with it this week i cant wait.

Chris Hurd · October 6th, 2009, 10:08 AM

Congrats, Kirk, please let us know how you like the EF-S 18-135mm lens.

Lorinda Norton · October 6th, 2009, 11:45 AM

Great! I've been waiting for someone to give their thoughts on that lens. Like you, I don't want to wait, plus I don't have another lens or two handy anyway. :)

Craig Coston · October 6th, 2009, 12:01 PM

Kirk,

Please post some video when you get a chance! I also produce outdoor videos, though I focus mostly on fly fishing.

Bruce Foreman · October 6th, 2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorinda Norton

Great! I've been waiting for someone to give their thoughts on that lens. Like you, I don't want to wait, plus I don't have another lens or two handy anyway. :)

I got my 7D body yesterday late afternoon (I'm at the tail end of the UPS driver's route) and haven't had a chance to do anything but point it at things in the house. Two lenses I'm going to find indispensable are the 24mm F2.8 EF and 50mm F1.8 EF primes. I may have to "insult" it occasionally by putting the 17-55mm "kit" lens from the T1i on it for the wide end, and I have a 55-250mm EF-S.

If I had no lenses on hand the 15-85mm EF-S would be my choice because of the 24-135mm equivalent range, and I would supplement that with the 50mm F1.8 EF for shallow DOF performance when needed.

Just some thoughts. I'm impressed with this camera just from playing with it in the house last night. Gonna put it on a SpiderBrace (with a rain cape-rain and thunderstorm coming) and get out fer awhile.

Kirk Graham · October 6th, 2009, 01:04 PM

I got her set up and shot some test vid inside and out and i can say that i will be looking for some faster glass soon the 3.6 is ok but i want better! i know i will want more zoom as well looking at the 70-200 2.8 but will have to save for that.

the cam is easy to navigate and run and it sets up fast i like the LCD its bigger than i thought it would be!

as far as the 18-135 it seems good all the way out from my first tests the zoom is a little sticky compared to my XLH1a

The images are very impressive i compared footage to my XLH1a and it looks better! great color.

again all i am new to the DSLR video thing and i will have to learn as i go i do know that primes will not be in my bag for what i do.

i did put it on the shoulder brace and shoot and it is very handy on it so now i need to get it out in the field and get some filming done so i can post some! bad weather here for the next few days so we will see.

Boris Sucre · October 6th, 2009, 07:28 PM

From whom did you order it?

Bruce Foreman · October 6th, 2009, 09:39 PM

B&H.

Apparently when a shipment is scheduled in they begin taking orders, then cut it off when the shipment is "committed". I managed to get my order in just before they indicated "on backorder" again.

You have to check daily.

Kirk Graham · October 7th, 2009, 06:21 AM

I got it at the local norman camera shop i called to be on the waiting list and they called the next day and said they had one for me- right place right time i guess

Declan Smith · October 7th, 2009, 12:01 PM

Whilst researching stuff on the 7D I stumbled across this series of articles on sound solutions for the 5D/7D which is worth a look before before deciding on beachtek. From the video series presented, it would appear that the beachtek may be a little noisy. I am paraphrasing here as I have not had direct experience, but it's certainly worth a look (or listen) .

1. Canon 5D Mark II Audio Exposed - Boom Mic (juicedLink, Zoom H4n, Microtrack II, BeachTek) on Vimeo

Bill Pryor · October 7th, 2009, 12:03 PM

One thing that concerns me about the Beachtek is that everybody says the pots have to be cranked all the way up to get a level and anything less than that is too low. So in effect there's no adjustment other than moving your mic in closer. I've pretty much decided to go double system sound with this camera.

Kirk Graham · October 7th, 2009, 12:38 PM

i have been looking at all the test and i see that the beachtek is not the way to go the juicedlink is looking better!

do they make a seprateaudio capture device that syncs with the cam?? other than a shotgun. like the zoom or do you have to push record on them separately?

Khoi Pham · October 7th, 2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Graham

i have been looking at all the test and i see that the beachtek is not the way to go the juicedlink is looking better!

do they make a seprateaudio capture device that syncs with the cam?? other than a shotgun. like the zoom or do you have to push record on them separately?

the 7D has auto gain so that won't work with the juicedlink, unless ML can do a firmware for the 7D then you can use it, so if you want to use the camera to record clean audio, use the Beachtek because it will defeat the auto gain with the constant 20khz tone.

Chris Barcellos · October 7th, 2009, 05:37 PM

As I understand it, the Beachtek defeats gain by adding a tone feed to input. This tone feed reduces the gain, and essentially freezes the gain. Before ML, I used my Juice Link to fee tone through one channel, using an MP3 player, and a tone file I had generated using a tone generating feature on the free program Audacity. I assume it will do the same here. You definitely want to go with the Juiced Link because it has a great little preamp to boost your mic signals before it gets to camera.

edit: here is link to that thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...oblem-agc.html

Brian Luce · October 7th, 2009, 09:04 PM

I think that lens is a good deal, supposedly it only adds $200 to the price but if you buy it separately it will cost you $500.

I bought the body only, but had a kit lens from another Canon. I'll probably get a Tamron 70-200mm 2.8.

October 6th, 2009, 10:01 AM	#1
Kirk Graham Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 137	7D arrived! Wow is this thing cool i am an outdoor tv producer/videographer and i just got my kit today! i couldnt wait for the body only so i got the kit with the 18-135 and it is amazing! i shot some 720 60 and put the card in the reader and dropped in the FS2 time line and bingo! This will become an tool that is used everyday in production i am just waiting on the beachtek to run the mics. for now the wireless works great! I will start filming hunts with it this week i cant wait.

October 6th, 2009, 10:08 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Congrats, Kirk, please let us know how you like the EF-S 18-135mm lens. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 6th, 2009, 11:45 AM	#3
Lorinda Norton Wrangler Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southwest Idaho, USA Posts: 3,066	Great! I've been waiting for someone to give their thoughts on that lens. Like you, I don't want to wait, plus I don't have another lens or two handy anyway. :) __________________ Lorinda

October 6th, 2009, 01:04 PM	#6
Kirk Graham Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 137	first thoughts I got her set up and shot some test vid inside and out and i can say that i will be looking for some faster glass soon the 3.6 is ok but i want better! i know i will want more zoom as well looking at the 70-200 2.8 but will have to save for that. the cam is easy to navigate and run and it sets up fast i like the LCD its bigger than i thought it would be! as far as the 18-135 it seems good all the way out from my first tests the zoom is a little sticky compared to my XLH1a The images are very impressive i compared footage to my XLH1a and it looks better! great color. again all i am new to the DSLR video thing and i will have to learn as i go i do know that primes will not be in my bag for what i do. i did put it on the shoulder brace and shoot and it is very handy on it so now i need to get it out in the field and get some filming done so i can post some! bad weather here for the next few days so we will see.

October 6th, 2009, 07:28 PM	#7
Boris Sucre New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Panama City, Republic of Panama Posts: 12	Order From whom did you order it?

October 6th, 2009, 12:01 PM	#4
Craig Coston Major Player Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 232	Kirk, Please post some video when you get a chance! I also produce outdoor videos, though I focus mostly on fly fishing.

October 6th, 2009, 09:39 PM	#8
Bruce Foreman Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Angelo Texas Posts: 1,518	B&H. Apparently when a shipment is scheduled in they begin taking orders, then cut it off when the shipment is "committed". I managed to get my order in just before they indicated "on backorder" again. You have to check daily.

October 7th, 2009, 06:21 AM	#9
Kirk Graham Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 137	cam I got it at the local norman camera shop i called to be on the waiting list and they called the next day and said they had one for me- right place right time i guess

October 7th, 2009, 12:01 PM	#10
Declan Smith Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gloucestershire, UK Posts: 187	Beachtek ... Whilst researching stuff on the 7D I stumbled across this series of articles on sound solutions for the 5D/7D which is worth a look before before deciding on beachtek. From the video series presented, it would appear that the beachtek may be a little noisy. I am paraphrasing here as I have not had direct experience, but it's certainly worth a look (or listen) . 1. Canon 5D Mark II Audio Exposed - Boom Mic (juicedLink, Zoom H4n, Microtrack II, BeachTek) on Vimeo

October 7th, 2009, 12:03 PM	#11
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	One thing that concerns me about the Beachtek is that everybody says the pots have to be cranked all the way up to get a level and anything less than that is too low. So in effect there's no adjustment other than moving your mic in closer. I've pretty much decided to go double system sound with this camera.

October 7th, 2009, 12:38 PM	#12
Kirk Graham Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lowell MI Posts: 137	e i have been looking at all the test and i see that the beachtek is not the way to go the juicedlink is looking better! do they make a seprateaudio capture device that syncs with the cam?? other than a shotgun. like the zoom or do you have to push record on them separately?

October 7th, 2009, 05:37 PM	#14
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	As I understand it, the Beachtek defeats gain by adding a tone feed to input. This tone feed reduces the gain, and essentially freezes the gain. Before ML, I used my Juice Link to fee tone through one channel, using an MP3 player, and a tone file I had generated using a tone generating feature on the free program Audacity. I assume it will do the same here. You definitely want to go with the Juiced Link because it has a great little preamp to boost your mic signals before it gets to camera. edit: here is link to that thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...oblem-agc.html __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

October 7th, 2009, 09:04 PM	#15
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	I think that lens is a good deal, supposedly it only adds $200 to the price but if you buy it separately it will cost you $500. I bought the body only, but had a kit lens from another Canon. I'll probably get a Tamron 70-200mm 2.8.