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October 1st, 2009, 08:22 AM | #16 |
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Do you keep the camera inside the camera bag or out during the night when air-con is switched on?
I think that the moisture from the air-conditioning combined with changes in environment from outside and inside tend to cause far more problems than the normal air temperatures you are experiencing. I would also test the camera for prolonged periods in a dry atmosphere following a long spell stored in a non-air con environment. |
October 1st, 2009, 08:41 AM | #17 |
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The camera was out of the bag all night and then tested in the same air-conditioned environment this morning. No changes in temperature or humidity when I tested today.
It would be great if some other 7D users could conduct a similar test and just let the camera run in video mode and see if they run into overheating issues. My dealer is actively taking this situation up with Canon and I am sure we will know more soon. I do not wish to raise a big alarm if this is merely an early run unit that has a unique issue. |
October 1st, 2009, 08:51 AM | #18 |
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Me neither, but the fact remains that unique issues with single units are very rare. So your call for more testing from other owners is a very good one, and I heartily encourage it. I'll try to work one in myself today.
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October 1st, 2009, 08:56 AM | #19 | |
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The cameras is instant on. So it is a good idea to leave auto off at 1 minute. Give it a little snooze now and then. Touch a button and it's ready to go. |
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They'll just replace the board on Charles's unit. Canon USA doesn't seem to have these parts right at introduction. Being just a few days old I suggest asking for a new unit. |
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October 1st, 2009, 09:21 AM | #21 |
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I'm just wrapping up from a day shooting The People's Republic of China's 60th birthday in Tiananmen Square.
It was quite hot and I was shooting intermittently for about 2 hours all at 720p/60 for slo mo with my production 7D. I'm sad to say it gave me temperature warnings almost the entire shoot and stopped me shooting at all at least 3 times during the period. I was really happy with the footage that I did get, I'll post a link soon. Dan |
October 1st, 2009, 09:56 AM | #22 |
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Thank you for that information, Dan. Very revealing. I was going to try one out in France in 2-weeks time for certain work, but this thread has suddenly made me think twice and I may pull back on that option.
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October 1st, 2009, 10:57 AM | #23 |
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Just did five back-to-back 12-minute 1080p30 recordings indoors at 78 degrees F with no temp. warning indicator. Set up outside on the back deck, mostly overcast sky at 82 degrees F and rolled a 480p60 shot, left unattended while I took care of some chores. Checked it at 18:30 and saw the temp. warning indicator. Repeating the outdoor shot now at 1280p60.
Update: temp. warning at 9:00 -- out in the open with the sun mostly obscured; relatively mild day in CenTex. |
October 1st, 2009, 11:20 AM | #24 |
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Time for a hardware hack. Chemical cold pack? Radiator?
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October 1st, 2009, 11:28 AM | #25 |
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For what little it is worth, this is not just a Canon 7D issue.
It is also a Pentax K-7 issue. There they link rising camera temperatures to the use of Live View, with there being a five minute at a time limit. |
October 1st, 2009, 11:29 AM | #26 |
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The camera should continue to work in a variety of tough environments, so shouldn't need cooling down or stop working, even in hot evironments. Possibly the dual processors will be a bigger future headache than most people imagined.
I wonder how the 5D MkII and 7D compare side by side during hot conditions, or even in tropical conditions when recording video. |
October 1st, 2009, 11:36 AM | #27 |
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Disappointing, guess I'll put off getting the 7d for now. Its 33c in the shade here, the 7d will choke before I could get anything shot.
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October 1st, 2009, 11:42 AM | #28 |
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i have shot A LOT with the 7d, albeit a pre-production one and the only time I have ever had this warning was when I was shooting the 7d training DVD in Florida, where you are Charles and I got it A LOT! Everywhere else it has been great. I have not tested my production model yet...
I did continue rolling when the warning came up and the video was fine. |
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Am I understanding correctly that the 5D can work a regular full day schedule like a video camera? I have followed the evolution of vdslr cams but have not heard much about 5Ds overheating.
This issue with the 7D is a bit of a surprise and changing my perspective on it's ability to work for me as an alternative to my EX1 at times. 90 percent of what I do is outdoor shooting and generally in the sun. No where in any pre production reviews did I see any warnings about overheating. So is this a defect or a shortcoming? I am trying to think about work a rounds but it does not seem that one will be able to use this camera like a normal video camera. Will Zacuto build the 7D zfreezer? Trying to keep it positive but it feels like my new bike I got for Christmas has tires with permanent slow leaks. |
October 1st, 2009, 12:08 PM | #30 |
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I need all my stills cameras and video cameras to keep on working in a diverse range of environments worldwide in all temperatures from desert heat to Arctic snows, from low tropical rainforests to high mountain peaks - and none of my present stills or video cameras have so far let me down.
I was very much hoping that the most recent Canon DSLR hybrid (that at long last now caters to the needs of Pal shooters) would find a permanent place amongst my gear...but it looks like I'm going to wait yet again. Hopefully the Nikon D3s when it is released will not suffer the same problems. |
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