Best b-camera for C100

Wayne Avanson · September 25th, 2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew Curran

What he said. The Gh4 is getting a lot more use here. I now have a £4000 C100 sound recorder. Lol

Snap.

The C100 and GH4 have a roughly similar look I find but I wouldn't dump the C100s yet.

Michael Thames · September 25th, 2014, 10:41 AM

Hey, my friend came by the other day with his GH4.......which was shot with the 5d3 and which was shot with the GH4? Main camera or the side shot?

Kevin McRoberts · September 25th, 2014, 02:05 PM

Love it... even though just watching it makes my arthritis flare up

Guessing wide shot is 5D3, but I'm not certain... you all managed to match them very well

Dave Partington · September 25th, 2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Thames

Hey, my friend came by the other day with his GH4.......which was shot with the 5d3 and which was shot with the GH4? Main camera or the side shot?

Rafa Elizondo, Dionisio Aguado- Andante and Rondo, Op.2, No.2 - YouTube

It's almost always easier to dumb down a sharp camera to look like a less sharp camera than the other way around. Much also depends on the glass you're using on each camera.

I can make the C100 look like a handycam if I want, but making the handycam look like a C100 is not so easy :)

Great guitar playing BTW.

Jody Arnott · September 25th, 2014, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Thames

Hey, my friend came by the other day with his GH4.......which was shot with the 5d3 and which was shot with the GH4? Main camera or the side shot?

I would guess the GH4 is the wide shot.. but it's very hard to tell. The side shot looks a bit softer to me.

Wayne Avanson · October 1st, 2014, 03:36 PM

Wide shot GH4 and side shot 5D3. Good matching. better than I've managed.

Doug Thompson · October 2nd, 2014, 01:39 AM

For two camera shoots, I use my C100 and record ProRes on a Ninja Star and use my 5DMKIII and record in ProRes on a Ninja 2. I've found good results in matching footage with this setup. The 5DMKIII is good for wide-angle use too.

Al Bergstein · October 2nd, 2014, 09:22 AM

The nice thing about the match shot of the classical guitarist is that the blues in the shirt match up pretty well. as do the flesh tones. I don't think anyone not a video person would notice any difference at all. It does point out that good theatrical lighting, probably white balancing both cameras before shooting, and paying attention in post is going to give you a very close match. I've found the same true when using the 5D Mkiii with the C100. It really depends on paying attention. I can screw up the matching as easily as not if I don't get things just so. Ultimately, not being able to have the same camera is a crap shoot based on lighting control, and careful planning. Just get into a place with fluorescents and watch the reds go crazy in both cameras!

Jason Rae · November 29th, 2014, 02:10 PM

I am by now way an expert but I have two c100s and a GH4 with the 12-35 lens and getting the Gh4 was a huge help. I had one C100 and tried the whole 70d as a b cam thing and it was a nightmare for me. For more experienced people it might not but you have to realize that its a huge drop in image quality from the c100 to the 70d I don't care what you do with the color.

So I sold that right away and got the GH4. So then I had one C100 and a GH4 which worked out great. The Gh4 image quality is great and when you down scale 4k its on par with the C100. With the lens it was 2600 for me total cost and I haven't added anything else to it. Then comes low light and out goes the GH4 unless you want to invest even more into MFT lenses or a speed booster. Don't get me wrong I love the little camera but only use it it really well lit situations. For me it was just easier to get a second C100. By the time you get all these lenses and attachments you need its not a 1600 dollar camera anymore. Also don't discount what your time is worth, by the time you match all these b roll to your main you could have shot more videos and made more money. Time is Money.

So now my workflow is crazy easy, two C100s and I don't have to match anything and I can edit in half the time and shoot more videos which makes more money.

Just my two cents because I was just going through all this with these cameras. And again I am not a expert in anyway so take this with a grain of salt. :)

PS. I kept the gh4 because its amazing little run and gun type camera and we use it all the time :)

September 25th, 2014, 10:41 AM	#32
Michael Thames Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM USA Posts: 396	Re: Best b-camera for C100 Hey, my friend came by the other day with his GH4.......which was shot with the 5d3 and which was shot with the GH4? Main camera or the side shot? Rafa Elizondo, Dionisio Aguado- Andante and Rondo, Op.2, No.2 - YouTube

September 25th, 2014, 02:05 PM	#33
Kevin McRoberts Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 700	Re: Best b-camera for C100 Love it... even though just watching it makes my arthritis flare up Guessing wide shot is 5D3, but I'm not certain... you all managed to match them very well __________________ Freelance pudgy bearded lighting camera operator www.mcbob.tv

October 1st, 2014, 03:36 PM	#36
Wayne Avanson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancashire UK Posts: 496	Re: Best b-camera for C100 Wide shot GH4 and side shot 5D3. Good matching. better than I've managed. __________________ Avey theactionhouse.com

October 2nd, 2014, 01:39 AM	#37
Doug Thompson Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Floyd, Virginia Posts: 99	Re: Best b-camera for C100 For two camera shoots, I use my C100 and record ProRes on a Ninja Star and use my 5DMKIII and record in ProRes on a Ninja 2. I've found good results in matching footage with this setup. The 5DMKIII is good for wide-angle use too. __________________ Doug Thompson http://www.blueridgemuse.com

October 2nd, 2014, 09:22 AM	#38
Al Bergstein Major Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port Townsend, WA Posts: 456	Re: Best b-camera for C100 The nice thing about the match shot of the classical guitarist is that the blues in the shirt match up pretty well. as do the flesh tones. I don't think anyone not a video person would notice any difference at all. It does point out that good theatrical lighting, probably white balancing both cameras before shooting, and paying attention in post is going to give you a very close match. I've found the same true when using the 5D Mkiii with the C100. It really depends on paying attention. I can screw up the matching as easily as not if I don't get things just so. Ultimately, not being able to have the same camera is a crap shoot based on lighting control, and careful planning. Just get into a place with fluorescents and watch the reds go crazy in both cameras! __________________ Al Upper left hand corner of the map

November 29th, 2014, 02:10 PM	#39
Jason Rae New Boot Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: apple valley ca Posts: 17	Re: Best b-camera for C100 I am by now way an expert but I have two c100s and a GH4 with the 12-35 lens and getting the Gh4 was a huge help. I had one C100 and tried the whole 70d as a b cam thing and it was a nightmare for me. For more experienced people it might not but you have to realize that its a huge drop in image quality from the c100 to the 70d I don't care what you do with the color. So I sold that right away and got the GH4. So then I had one C100 and a GH4 which worked out great. The Gh4 image quality is great and when you down scale 4k its on par with the C100. With the lens it was 2600 for me total cost and I haven't added anything else to it. Then comes low light and out goes the GH4 unless you want to invest even more into MFT lenses or a speed booster. Don't get me wrong I love the little camera but only use it it really well lit situations. For me it was just easier to get a second C100. By the time you get all these lenses and attachments you need its not a 1600 dollar camera anymore. Also don't discount what your time is worth, by the time you match all these b roll to your main you could have shot more videos and made more money. Time is Money. So now my workflow is crazy easy, two C100s and I don't have to match anything and I can edit in half the time and shoot more videos which makes more money. Just my two cents because I was just going through all this with these cameras. And again I am not a expert in anyway so take this with a grain of salt. :) PS. I kept the gh4 because its amazing little run and gun type camera and we use it all the time :)