C100: recent low-light wedding at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon Cinema EOS Camera Systems
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

Canon Cinema EOS Camera Systems
For all Canon Cinema EOS models: C700 / C300 Mk. II / C200 / C100 Mk II and EF / PL lenses.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old December 24th, 2012, 08:50 AM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Beverly, MA
Posts: 512
C100: recent low-light wedding

Hi, All,

In case you're interested in seeing more from this new camera, here is a recent wedding (short montage) with very low-light. (Even some of the exteriors -- such as the whole family pose) was short with almost no light on 50mm f/1.2). The interior ceremony was VERY dim. Goes to show how well the camera does in low light.

Only thing NOT the C100 is the timelapse and the spinning ornament (XF cams).

__________________
Event Videography, New England
www.timothybakland.com
Tim Bakland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2012, 09:50 AM   #2
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: College Park, Maryland
Posts: 913
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Looks good. Would be nice to view it as a 1080P size though to see the better quality. I've enjoyed using my C100 for 3 weddings so far and just recently had a lowlight reception event where you could see the C100 shine. Thanks for sharing.
Monday Isa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2012, 10:19 AM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: NJ/NYC
Posts: 563
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

looks lovely, what was the average iso used?
__________________
C100 - GH4 - NYC Shooter
www.DarrenLevine.com
Darren Levine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2012, 10:35 AM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Beverly, MA
Posts: 512
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Thank you! In these particular shots, I didn't have the iso above 850 in the interiors -- and outside, 320-640 or so.

But in other shots (not in this montage), during the reception I experimented with turning off my LED litepanels fill light and cranked up the iso to about 1600 and I was very impressed. As others hav said, it only resulted in softening, not graininess.
__________________
Event Videography, New England
www.timothybakland.com
Tim Bakland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2012, 03:12 PM   #5
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 49
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Everything looks good I can't wait to shoot a wedding with my C100. 1 question I have is during the best man speech I heard a hissing was that audio connected to a external recorder or into the camera?
__________________
www.nickelsvision.com
Canon C100, Canon 5D MK iii, Canon 5D MK ii (Magic Lantern), Panasonic GF1 (Hacked)
Peter Chaney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #6
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Beverly, MA
Posts: 512
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Wow, Peter, pretty discerning pick-up on that audio.

Yes, there is a very slight hiss. But no worries. It was what the DJ gave me (to an external recorder, totally separate from the C100).
__________________
Event Videography, New England
www.timothybakland.com
Tim Bakland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Whidbey Island
Posts: 873
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Nicely done. I found the overall color tone/look to be very pleasing. I'm guessing you went with 30P?
Mark Watson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 25th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #8
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Beverly, MA
Posts: 512
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Thank you, Mark. Yes, 30p.
__________________
Event Videography, New England
www.timothybakland.com
Tim Bakland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 25th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #9
Trustee
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: York, England
Posts: 1,323
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Bakland View Post
Thank you! In these particular shots, I didn't have the iso above 850 in the interiors -- and outside, 320-640 or so.
Thanks for posting this. It raises a couple of questions for me, if that's ok ?

1) What XF cameras do you use? 100 or 300? How would you compare the footage in terms of noise and sharpness to your XF?

2) Where would you need to be for ISO (at say f4) on the C100 to be comparable to the XF 6db gain?

3) Do you have a DSLR (e.g. a 5D2 / 5D3) and if so, are the ISO ratings comparable. e.g. exposure from one to the other? Just so I get an idea.

4) Have you tried pushing the codec in post? The XF 4:2:2 codec stands up well to lots of pushing and pulling around, how does the C100 codec hold up in comparison?
__________________
Qualified UAV Pilot with CAA PFAW
Aerial Photo / Aerial Video | Corporate Video Production
Dave Partington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 25th, 2012, 11:07 AM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Beverly, MA
Posts: 512
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Partington View Post
Thanks for posting this. It raises a couple of questions for me, if that's ok ?

1) What XF cameras do you use? 100 or 300? How would you compare the footage in terms of noise and sharpness to your XF?

2) Where would you need to be for ISO (at say f4) on the C100 to be comparable to the XF 6db gain?

3) Do you have a DSLR (e.g. a 5D2 / 5D3) and if so, are the ISO ratings comparable. e.g. exposure from one to the other? Just so I get an idea.

4) Have you tried pushing the codec in post? The XF 4:2:2 codec stands up well to lots of pushing and pulling around, how does the C100 codec hold up in comparison?
Hi, David, Great questions. Actually too soon for me to answer all of them just yet (just got it and am just getting to know it).

I have the XF300 and 100. This blows them away in low light situations. In ideal conditions, this camera has lots of the qualities of the XF300 (great color, sharp image) with noticeably better dynamic range and the ability to create shallower DOF shots. Have noticed hardly any moiré at all, perhaps less than the XF300, though it tends to do the jagged pattern on certain red edges.

In a situation where I was using 6db of gain in the XF, I'd be using 850-1200 iso in the C100 (I believe, again, very new to this camera). I'm one who's always avoided gain and high ISO -- perhaps too much. I read somewhere that the C100 is actually at its best with the ISO up a bit (640? 850?) -- so I'll have to be watching for that.

I only have a t3i. This blows that away -- from the dynamic range (goodbye to blown out highlights and splotchy blacks in the same image), and goodbye to mucky looking background details. Goodbye to random noise on patterned/even solid color objects in your image.

Drawbacks? Although the LCD is better image quality/easier to focus than, say, the t3i, it is more difficult to get it in a convenient viewing position. Sometimes, the record is slow to start. Need to check to see whether it's faster when not on dual-slot record. No intervalometer. No 5X zoom? (I think). That was very convenient on a t3i when you had a 24mm lens on and you needed a quick close detail.

As I write this, I realize that I should post a recent engagement story/video of a couple I did this past week. The interview footage and the footage of the woman when she's wearing a RED shirt is all done on the C100. The autumnal footage (woman with BLUE shirt) was shot a month ago with my t3i and a couple obviously clearer-than-t3i shots done with the XF300. But anything in the recent shots (woman in RED) is done with the C100. Probably a good video for comparison. I should have posted this a few days ago:

shot with a 50mm f/1.2 lens (interviews). And some shots walking around with the 17-55 IS USM:
__________________
Event Videography, New England
www.timothybakland.com
Tim Bakland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26th, 2012, 03:31 AM   #11
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK
Posts: 3,531
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

850 is the native ISO for the C100/C300 & you will get maximum dynamic range using this setting. Use the NDs to get correct exposure.
Nigel Barker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #12
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 49
Re: C100: recent low-light wedding

Yeah I watch videos with headphones and I picked up on it pretty quick.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Bakland View Post
Wow, Peter, pretty discerning pick-up on that audio.

Yes, there is a very slight hiss. But no worries. It was what the DJ gave me (to an external recorder, totally separate from the C100).
__________________
www.nickelsvision.com
Canon C100, Canon 5D MK iii, Canon 5D MK ii (Magic Lantern), Panasonic GF1 (Hacked)
Peter Chaney is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon Cinema EOS Camera Systems


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:10 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network