Blu-Ray Media?

David Moody · January 30th, 2009, 06:08 PM

Frys has Memorex 15 pack 25gb non printable for 59.99 on sale. That is down to $4.00 a disc.

FRYS.com

Desmond Sukotjo · February 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM

Sorry to brought this post up again.

I was wondering. Those of you who are using Verbatim (96661) 2X Blu-ray (BD-R) Single Layer. Does the disc has a Verbatim lettering, speed marking (ie. Verbatim 1-2x) printed on the inner circle of the disc? Because this will definitely ruin my design.

I've been trying to find s picture of the disc, but can't find any.

Thanks

Mitchell Lewis · February 18th, 2009, 07:22 PM

I don't have that specific part number, but here's what part #95357 looks like.

Desmond Sukotjo · February 19th, 2009, 01:05 AM

Ow. Thanks Mitchell. But I'm so sorry. My bad. I forgot to mention what I meant is the "Verbatim Printable Blu-ray Disc" BD-R.

Verbatim BD-R Blu-ray DataLife Plus Inkjet Printable Disc (Spindle Pack of 25). Mfr# 96661
Verbatim | BD-R Blu-ray DataLife Plus Inkjet Printable | 96661

Mitchell Lewis · February 19th, 2009, 08:15 AM

Sorry, I don't have any of those.

THREAD HIJACK: I've thought about getting a disc printer, but my peers have tried them and told me they are very slow and that I should stick with using disc labels. Thoughts?

Tripp Woelfel · February 19th, 2009, 08:22 AM

Desmond... The Verbatim media is not hub printable. I actually have been searching for hub printable BD media and have come up empty thus far. I cannot understand why unless there is some technical reason that I know nothing about.

Mitchell... Search the forums here on disk printers and labels and you'll have your answer.

Desmond Sukotjo · February 19th, 2009, 10:21 AM

So, Tripp. This Printable Verbatim BD-R is Full Face Printable? You were saying it is not a "Hub" Printable, right?

I believe the Hub Printable is where the inner diameter is larger thus giving us less printable area. For example, if we print a close-up photo of a person on the center of the disc, that person's face will definitely not visible because it is not on the printable area.

I'm looking for printable BD-R with smaller inner diameter for the printable area. Which I think they call it Full Face? (not sure). I'm not good in describing this. Others??

Mitchell. I use EPSON R230 here. Been using it for few years now for printing on a Printable DVD and CD. Works great. Took around 2-3 mins /disc with full face color design.

Bryan Daugherty · February 19th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Hub printable is what you are looking for Desmond. The Hub is the clear plastic area in the center.
Such as these link is for illustration only not an endorsement of this product or supplier :
TDK Blu Ray Disc 25GB Inkjet Printable, Hub Printable - Recordable BD-R - Increments of 25 at Discount Prices

Tripp Woelfel · February 19th, 2009, 08:17 PM

Bryan... lord, that's dear. I can get the non-hub printables for US$7 less per disk in the same quantities listed on your link. I'd have to really want to get that face in the center to pay a 60% premium.

Bryan Daugherty · February 19th, 2009, 11:00 PM

Yeah, that is a murderous price but it will come down as more of us adopt BD. I am sure you could find a better price if you look around, i was mainly looking for one that illustrated the answer to Desmond's query and that was the first i came across.

Desmond Sukotjo · February 19th, 2009, 11:08 PM

Bryan, Yes. That's the one. But TDK is much more expensive that Verbatim. I don't understand why. From the link I post earlier, B&H has Verbatim for less than $10 /disc.

Is TDK made a better disc than Verbatim?

From the link you post here, I search for the Verbatim 96661. It's like what Tripp said. It is NOT "hub printable". Now I got that terminology right.
So, Hub Printable = Full Face (where we can print on the hub).

Bryan Daugherty · February 19th, 2009, 11:13 PM

Desmond, i am sorry to have thrown a wrench in the works. My link and attachment were to illustrate the terminology you were trying to get clarified. I do not recommend those disks specifically because I have never used them so i cannot comment on the TDK vs. verbatim, I was just trying to visually clarify the full-face vs hub-printable question. The link is not an endorsement but an illustration of what a "hub-printable" disc looks like. Sorry if I muddied the water a little bit. And yes, hub printable means you can print all the way to the hub. And now back to the thread in progress...

Tim Polster · February 28th, 2009, 08:23 AM

I have seen some BD-R printable media going for ~$4 each.

I just picked up a Pioneer 203 burner along with a 25 pack of the $4 media.

Hope the disc quality is good.

This market should have even lower prices even with the brand names by the end of the year.

Once the burners start coming down and into their second and third generations I think it will start to snowball.

Ed Hecht · April 23rd, 2009, 02:16 PM

Can anyone here speak to the data integrity of any particular brand? We will begin archiving HD projects to Blu-ray next week after the arrival of 2 LaCie D2 external burners (4x). We are looking at several items at Meritline. But I wanted to get some feedback on specific brands/types. The 25pk 2x (non-printable) spindle is down to less than $4/disc. Any advantage (other than speed) of getting the 4x pack? Any feedback would be appreciated as we need to free up valuable server space soon. Thanks!

Bill Koehler · April 23rd, 2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell Lewis

Sorry, I don't have any of those.

THREAD HIJACK: I've thought about getting a disc printer, but my peers have tried them and told me they are very slow and that I should stick with using disc labels. Thoughts?

There are a number of threads that talk about using the paper labels.
The consensus seems to be don't.

I know from personal experience that with changes in temperature & humidity they will over time wrinkle and generally not look as nice as when new. Others talk about the heat of being inside a drive can over time soften the glue and things move around.

Around the start of the year I bought one of these:

CD & DVD Label Printing, CD/DVD Printer | DYMO DiscPainter

I was sufficiently underwhelmed by its print quality that when the print cartridges ran dry I replaced it with this:

Epson Artisan 800 All-in-One Printer, Overview - Product Information - Epson America, Inc.

I am very happy with its output. Very.

The Dymo Discpainter feels like a cheap toy.
The Epson Artisan 800 feels like serious hardware. It's probably the same speed as printing paper labels except of course you don't have to apply paper labels. And it really does look a lot nicer. You get the same nice glossy finish as when printing on Premium Inkjet Photo Paper. Color, sharpness, and detail all really pop in comparison to printing on matte paper labels.

February 18th, 2009, 07:22 PM	#18
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	I don't have that specific part number, but here's what part #95357 looks like. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

February 19th, 2009, 08:15 AM	#20
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Sorry, I don't have any of those. THREAD HIJACK: I've thought about getting a disc printer, but my peers have tried them and told me they are very slow and that I should stick with using disc labels. Thoughts? __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

February 19th, 2009, 03:35 PM	#23
Bryan Daugherty Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lexington, Ky - USA Posts: 552	Hub printable is what you are looking for Desmond. The Hub is the clear plastic area in the center. Such as these link is for illustration only not an endorsement of this product or supplier : TDK Blu Ray Disc 25GB Inkjet Printable, Hub Printable - Recordable BD-R - Increments of 25 at Discount Prices Attached Images __________________ 3x-HD1000u - Ikan 8000HD- custom i7 PC - Vegas Pro 13 and 11 64 bit - Premiere Pro CS4 - and a whole mess of other equipment... Last edited by Bryan Daugherty; February 19th, 2009 at 11:16 PM. Reason: to clarify reason for linking

February 19th, 2009, 11:00 PM	#25
Bryan Daugherty Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lexington, Ky - USA Posts: 552	Yeah, that is a murderous price but it will come down as more of us adopt BD. I am sure you could find a better price if you look around, i was mainly looking for one that illustrated the answer to Desmond's query and that was the first i came across. __________________ 3x-HD1000u - Ikan 8000HD- custom i7 PC - Vegas Pro 13 and 11 64 bit - Premiere Pro CS4 - and a whole mess of other equipment...

February 19th, 2009, 11:13 PM	#27
Bryan Daugherty Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lexington, Ky - USA Posts: 552	Desmond, i am sorry to have thrown a wrench in the works. My link and attachment were to illustrate the terminology you were trying to get clarified. I do not recommend those disks specifically because I have never used them so i cannot comment on the TDK vs. verbatim, I was just trying to visually clarify the full-face vs hub-printable question. The link is not an endorsement but an illustration of what a "hub-printable" disc looks like. Sorry if I muddied the water a little bit. And yes, hub printable means you can print all the way to the hub. And now back to the thread in progress... __________________ 3x-HD1000u - Ikan 8000HD- custom i7 PC - Vegas Pro 13 and 11 64 bit - Premiere Pro CS4 - and a whole mess of other equipment...

January 30th, 2009, 06:08 PM	#16
David Moody Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 86	Frys has Memorex 15 pack 25gb non printable for 59.99 on sale. That is down to $4.00 a disc. FRYS.com

February 18th, 2009, 07:02 PM	#17
Desmond Sukotjo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 88	Sorry to brought this post up again. I was wondering. Those of you who are using Verbatim (96661) 2X Blu-ray (BD-R) Single Layer. Does the disc has a Verbatim lettering, speed marking (ie. Verbatim 1-2x) printed on the inner circle of the disc? Because this will definitely ruin my design. I've been trying to find s picture of the disc, but can't find any. Thanks

February 19th, 2009, 01:05 AM	#19
Desmond Sukotjo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 88	Ow. Thanks Mitchell. But I'm so sorry. My bad. I forgot to mention what I meant is the "Verbatim Printable Blu-ray Disc" BD-R. Verbatim BD-R Blu-ray DataLife Plus Inkjet Printable Disc (Spindle Pack of 25). Mfr# 96661 Verbatim \| BD-R Blu-ray DataLife Plus Inkjet Printable \| 96661

February 19th, 2009, 08:22 AM	#21
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Desmond... The Verbatim media is not hub printable. I actually have been searching for hub printable BD media and have come up empty thus far. I cannot understand why unless there is some technical reason that I know nothing about. Mitchell... Search the forums here on disk printers and labels and you'll have your answer.

February 19th, 2009, 10:21 AM	#22
Desmond Sukotjo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 88	So, Tripp. This Printable Verbatim BD-R is Full Face Printable? You were saying it is not a "Hub" Printable, right? I believe the Hub Printable is where the inner diameter is larger thus giving us less printable area. For example, if we print a close-up photo of a person on the center of the disc, that person's face will definitely not visible because it is not on the printable area. I'm looking for printable BD-R with smaller inner diameter for the printable area. Which I think they call it Full Face? (not sure). I'm not good in describing this. Others?? Mitchell. I use EPSON R230 here. Been using it for few years now for printing on a Printable DVD and CD. Works great. Took around 2-3 mins /disc with full face color design.

February 19th, 2009, 08:17 PM	#24
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Bryan... lord, that's dear. I can get the non-hub printables for US$7 less per disk in the same quantities listed on your link. I'd have to really want to get that face in the center to pay a 60% premium.

February 19th, 2009, 11:08 PM	#26
Desmond Sukotjo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 88	Bryan, Yes. That's the one. But TDK is much more expensive that Verbatim. I don't understand why. From the link I post earlier, B&H has Verbatim for less than $10 /disc. Is TDK made a better disc than Verbatim? From the link you post here, I search for the Verbatim 96661. It's like what Tripp said. It is NOT "hub printable". Now I got that terminology right. So, Hub Printable = Full Face (where we can print on the hub).

February 28th, 2009, 08:23 AM	#28
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	I have seen some BD-R printable media going for ~$4 each. I just picked up a Pioneer 203 burner along with a 25 pack of the $4 media. Hope the disc quality is good. This market should have even lower prices even with the brand names by the end of the year. Once the burners start coming down and into their second and third generations I think it will start to snowball.

April 23rd, 2009, 02:16 PM	#29
Ed Hecht Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 60	Media Integrity Can anyone here speak to the data integrity of any particular brand? We will begin archiving HD projects to Blu-ray next week after the arrival of 2 LaCie D2 external burners (4x). We are looking at several items at Meritline. But I wanted to get some feedback on specific brands/types. The 25pk 2x (non-printable) spindle is down to less than $4/disc. Any advantage (other than speed) of getting the 4x pack? Any feedback would be appreciated as we need to free up valuable server space soon. Thanks!