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Old April 7th, 2013, 08:59 PM   #1
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$3995 Black Magic 4K Cinema Camera!

$3995 Black Magic 4K Cinema Camera and $995 Pocket Cinema Camera!

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Old April 7th, 2013, 09:13 PM   #2
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Hi Troy,

You already have the same info in this post - http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...ma-camera.html

Crossposting is frowned upon here on the forum.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #3
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Sorry.......didn't mean to repost.........
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Old April 7th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #4
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No problem. Just trying to keep things tidy around here. ;)
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:07 AM   #5
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I had a hunch this was just around the corner. That's why I never pre-ordered the 2.5k model.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:17 AM   #6
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If I'm reading their ad correctly Adorama now has the current EF model in stock.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 03:29 PM   #7
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I had a hunch this was just around the corner. That's why I never pre-ordered the 2.5k model.
But then next year comes the full frame version with a magical way to include built in ND filters and XLR inputs and also a removable battery. ;)

And the following year is the one that adds 240fps at 4K and 480fps at 1080.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #8
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Yes absolutely agree and get your point. But a least with the 4k raw version one can start archiving footage that should be somewhat future proof. The 2.5k version is already obsolete.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 11:43 AM   #9
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Re: $3995 Black Magic 4K Cinema Camera!

Anybody know what Blackmagic means by "4K" in terms of the actual, specific resolution of the video files? I know there's a "4 times 1080p pixels" flavor of 4k then there's some broadcast 4K standard that is actually over 4,000 pixels wide. Thanks!
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Old April 15th, 2013, 12:59 PM   #10
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Its native resolution is 3840 x 2160, so it's UHD, rather than Cinema 4K (4096 wide).

Frankly, that's not a big deal. It's only a 6% resolution difference. The bigger limitation is that a Bayer sensor at 3840 won't offer the full resolution possible for UHD. The true resolution will be more like 3K, depending on the anti-aliasing filter in the camera and the de-Bayer software quality.

But, hey, at $4,000 I'm not complaining - especially given the S35 sensor size.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 04:44 AM   #11
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There is no AA/OLPF in the BM cameras
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Old April 16th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #12
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But then next year comes the full frame version with a magical way to include built in ND filters and XLR inputs and also a removable battery. ;)

And the following year is the one that adds 240fps at 4K and 480fps at 1080.
And in 2015, this one actually ships in numbers. In 2016, most of the bugs are worked out.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #13
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There is no AA/OLPF in the BM cameras
None? That's not a good thing, IMO.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 03:07 PM   #14
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None? That's not a good thing, IMO.
It may not need them since it's not using a DSLR type sensor.
No moire or aliasing I believe. It's also a global shutter so no skewing either.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 04:17 PM   #15
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The problem is this: if you don't anti-alias before the signal hits the pixels, you can get content that falls between the cracks. Yes, the cracks are larger in a DSLR, but anti-aliasing is always important when you go from analog to digital. It's especially important for moving pictures where high frequency content can make the image "sing".
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